Ian Roberts speaks

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Roberts speaks out on Izzy's imaginary overlords rules.

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019...g-themselves-ian-roberts/11081230?pfmredir=sm


Rugby league great and groundbreaking gay sportsman Ian Roberts has spoken out over the Israel Folau controversy, sending an emotional message to the Wallabies and Waratahs fullback over his social media posts.

As Folau's rugby union future was being debated in a code of conduct appeal hearing with Rugby Australia (RA) in Sydney, Roberts was asked about the furore over Folau's social media posts about homosexuals.

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"But there are consequences to your actions, and reactions.

"I don't say this lightly what I'm about to say — the language I use is hard and it's for a point, it's to get that message across.

"There are literally [gay] kids in the suburbs killing themselves.

"I say that with the greatest sense of respect, and I'm not implying that Israel's responsible solely for that, please don't take it that way.

"But it's these types of comments and these off-the-cuff remarks, when you have young people and vulnerable people, kids in the suburbs, who are dealing with their sexuality.

"[They're] confused, not knowing how to deal with it, these type of remarks ... can and do push [kids and] people over the edge."

Roberts played a total of 194 NRL games for South Sydney, Manly and the North Queensland Cowboys, plus 13 games for the Wigan Warriors in England.

The forward also played nine State of Origin games for New South Wales, and 13 Tests for Australia.

He came out as gay in 1995, becoming the first elite rugby league player in the world to do so, before retiring in 1998.


PHOTO Israel Folau's rugby union future will be decided following a Code of Conduct hearing that is being held in Sydney.
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Folau, who has played 73 Tests for the Wallabies, fronted a three-person tribunal on Saturday and Sunday comprising chair John West, RA representative Kate Eastman and the Rugby Union Players' Association (RUPA)-appointed John Boultbee.

The 30-year-old was stood down by RA last month in the wake of his Instagram posts proclaiming hell awaits "drunks, homosexuals, adulterers, liars, fornicators, thieves, atheists and idolaters".

He was then issued with a code of conduct breach notice recommending his four-year contract worth a $4 million be terminated, which he decided to challenge.

RA signalled its intention to tear up Folau's contract — he appealed the decision, and the hearing has been running this weekend.

Folau and others gave evidence on Saturday. No decision is expected today, with the panel expected to adjourn and consider its ruling on the landmark case.

As debate continued around Folau's future, French sporting magazine L'Equipe has released a special edition, which features two male water polo players kissing on its cover.

The issue focuses on homophobia in sport and under the large image has a prominent title saying: "Kiss whomever you like".
 
Do yourselves a favour and read Ian's book. I read it when it was released and it helped me on my journey in coming out. Ian was as tough as they come when he played and payed a big price with his health after his career ended and his work in especially working with young LGBTIQA+ people is truly inspirational.

I have no drama with Folau being allowed to speak about his religion and what it does for him, but I do not think that this gives him the right to impose his beliefs on those who are not interested or words that are used from the bible that are interpreted in a way that vilifies people!!
 
Do yourselves a favour and read Ian's book. I read it when it was released and it helped me on my journey in coming out. Ian was as tough as they come when he played and payed a big price with his health after his career ended and his work in especially working with young LGBTIQA+ people is truly inspirational.

I have no drama with Folau being allowed to speak about his religion and what it does for him, but I do not think that this gives him the right to impose his beliefs on those who are not interested or words that are used from the bible that are interpreted in a way that vilifies people!!
I'm graciously mentioned in it :happy:

My favourite part was when he was reclining in the passenger seat having being injured in a game and at a stop light some hoons start to vilify his partner thinking that hebis alone.
Ian got out of the car - hoons left quick smart at the sight of an angry giant :rofl:

Hope Ian's CTE is being treated and he stays with us for a long time. Truly an amazing man :inlove:
 
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I'm graciously mentioned in it :happy:

My favourite part was when he was reclining in the passenger seat having being injured in a game and at a stop light some hoons start to vilify his partner thinking that hebis alone.
Ian got out of the car - hoons left quick smart at the sight of an angry giant :rofl:

Hope Ian's CTE is being treated and he stays with us for a long time. Truely an amazing man :inlove:
Wow you were a hoon. Who knew:rofl:
 
Do yourselves a favour and read Ian's book. I read it when it was released and it helped me on my journey in coming out. Ian was as tough as they come when he played and payed a big price with his health after his career ended and his work in especially working with young LGBTIQA+ people is truly inspirational.

I have no drama with Folau being allowed to speak about his religion and what it does for him, but I do not think that this gives him the right to impose his beliefs on those who are not interested or words that are used from the bible that are interpreted in a way that vilifies people!!
It is a very good book
 
I'm graciously mentioned in it :happy:

Wha? Sheesh how come no one has asked you which part??? Now I can either buy the book or you can just email me the deets (which kids tell me is details).

Wow you were a hoon. Who knew:rofl:

Legit did lol at that. Woke the dog up, got angrily sighed at. Cost me a treat.
 
Don’t agree with folau but I believe he has the right to say what he said.

I was also aimed at in his post.

I’m a drunk...... sometimes
I’m a fornicater..... not as often as I would like to be.

So a rugby player says I’m going to hell zero f&&ks given.

We are sooo easily outraged today.
the LGBTI community rightfully have so many more rights today than ever but I believe they give as good as they get. Look at the crap the likes of conservatives like Tony Abbott cop from that community.
 
Don’t agree with folau but I believe he has the right to say what he said.

I was also aimed at in his post.

I’m a drunk...... sometimes
I’m a fornicater..... not as often as I would like to be.

So a rugby player says I’m going to hell zero f&&ks given.

We are sooo easily outraged today.
the LGBTI community rightfully have so many more rights today than ever but I believe they give as good as they get. Look at the crap the likes of conservatives like Tony Abbott cop from that community.

The problem is, as Ian Roberts rightly pointed out, there are kids who will hear/see/read that kind of message who don’t yet have the resilience or thick skin to just brush it off like you or I might.

I have an old school friend whose husband speaks really eloquently on the subject, and what it was like as a kid growing up in a country town when he started to realise he was gay (at around the age of 9). He attempted suicide as a teenager, in no small part because of the vilification he was copping at the time.

This week at work we’ve had a colleague’s son take his own life at 17, and an absolutely gut-wrenching case of a 7 year old doing the same. We may never know the reasons behind it, but what’s for certain is that young people are choosing permanent, irreversible solutions to temporary problems at an alarming rate. Anything we can do to mitigate that is worth doing.
 
The problem is, as Ian Roberts rightly pointed out, there are kids who will hear/see/read that kind of message who don’t yet have the resilience or thick skin to just brush it off like you or I might.

I have an old school friend whose husband speaks really eloquently on the subject, and what it was like as a kid growing up in a country town when he started to realise he was gay (at around the age of 9). He attempted suicide as a teenager, in no small part because of the vilification he was copping at the time.

This week at work we’ve had a colleague’s son take his own life at 17, and an absolutely gut-wrenching case of a 7 year old doing the same. We may never know the reasons behind it, but what’s for certain is that young people are choosing permanent, irreversible solutions to temporary problems at an alarming rate. Anything we can do to mitigate that is worth doing.
This is spot on

It is true that there are many more liberties for the LGBTIQA+ these days and these liberties have been hard fought. When something is intepreted from a book and is then used to vilify someone who is not compatible with that book then I have an issue with that.
 

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