Hadley calls for Greenberg and Weekes to be sacked

Just watching the Kent vs Hoops fight.

Damn Hooper is a flog of a human being and a pretty piss poor journalist to boot. Every man and his dog knows that this had been a witch hunt and that the NRL's process was extremely flawed, yet he continues to sprout the company line like he's a WWE commentator with Vince McMahon (in this case Greenturd) in his ear telling what to say.

I thought journalists by nature dig as deep as they can on a story, and then some. He's just taking Greenturd's words to selected members of the press before the press conference that Fulton was the architect of the whole thing as gospel.

That isn't the work of a journalist. Its the work of a ghost writer telling one person's side of the story and claiming its the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

2+2=5.....
 
It seemed Hooper just wanted to Blame Bozo for any salary cap breeches. As Kent & Ben Ikin pointed out why then would Kelly and Bare have been suspended if it was all Bozos doing?
I am pretty confident Bozo would have told Kelly & co to convince DCE to stay, go after walker etc but left the money, contract side of it to them.
 
Greenturd is a league nobody and is totally oblivious to the fact that as a Roos Coach, Bozo identified and made stars out of every for rep Player from 30 years ago to 2017.@:cool:

They have then became Footy Commentators, coaches, future immortals and will protect their former mentor against any blowins :nod:

Hooper also is an ignorant, hyperbole venting media hack who under values Bozo's comprehensive influence on league :wondering:
I get tired of defending this club here and on other social media #HM,you never seem to tire of it though....ay carumba....
 
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Fantastic show of support for Bozo this morning Ray. Thank God we have some media willing to stand in the corner of greats of our game who have been thrown under a bus.
Some more issues/questions for you:
Did you know that an NRL commisioner owns/part owns the auditing company that investigated Manly and Parramatta. Isn't this an absurd conflict of interest? Isn't it in the best interests of the chairmans company to not only drag the investigation out but also to find the most miniscule discrepancies to show they haven't wasted the NRLs money? All the while the NRL is broke....

James Hooper said that he was included in on a senior media reporters meeting prior to the press conference and told that Bozo was the architect of the cap breaches. I don't think he realised that Bozo wasnt even at the club for the first 2yrs of the apparent 5... So how was he the architect?

David Perry was the ceo for the years prior to Joe Kelly. Why wasn't he interviewed if those years are under investigation?

Player managers haven't been included - why? Do they have info on senior NRL staff from their club days?

James Maloney openly told the media that he was on the receiving end of a TPA from Keno which had previously been Moylans. This is against the rules. The NRL then backtracked and made the Panthers include it on their cap forcing them to release a player. Isn't that act of promising Maloney the TPA exactly the same thing that Bozo is being accused of? He may not have received the TPA but it certainly took him off the market which disadvantaged the other clubs (this is exactly what Bozo is being accused of).
Why treatment for some but not others? Why Bozo but not Gus?

Anyway, just some further fuel for your fight in bringing down a completely inconsistent administration that needs to have questions asked if it.

Keep up the good fight for our Bozo.
I can't say anything more in support of this great club......
 
Was having a conversation with a Bulldog fan today and she said that I should not criticise Green$#@! unless I have had to walk in his shoes.

I said the only reason I would only ever walk in his shoes was to go to SA where I would euthanise myself for being a useless piece of s@#t..

Well I guess she can't ever criticise Manly then based on her own moral settings.
 
Well one thing's for certain.... the people on here that were calling bozo a few nasty names over the last few weeks have stopped and now we're all behind him. lol


Just watched the Kent v Hoops and all your comments are correct.

It's a pity that sports journos (and most people I guess) resort to 'the person who speaks louder wins' as Hooper should gotten more owned then he was.

"The nrl showed us a blueprint"
- why wasn't everyone afforded that and Bozo showed Hadley the actual texts that contradict this blue print.

"Bozo must have done it"
- this is about proper procedure that wasn't followed. If you were called a Kiddie fiddler with no right of reply, would you like it?

"Why didn't he come back from holidays?"
-are you seriously suggesting he should have cut his holiday short just so he can rush in and speak to the nrl who had so far been investigating Manly for 9 months?

"The other two were suspended as the nrl can't touch bozo because he is no longer in the nrl world"
- So two things...1) You're suggesting the nrl suspended two innocent people and 2) If they can't touch bozo, then that also means they can't defame him.

etc
 
I get tired of defending this club here and on other social media #HM,you never seem to tire of it though....ay carumba....
I have plenty of angst against Manly and it's legends when I see them cannibalize my great Club -( FC 'irrelevance' and 2V firing for instance ).
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But I do get incensed at blatant and sustained attacks on anything Manly for the sake of media moguls and NRL powerbroker wannabes @:mad:

The known facts in this case do not support the smug diatribe from NRLHQ :wondering:

Retirement + unlimited data plan = happy @Dan forum traffic 😛
 
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Well one thing's for certain.... the people on here that were calling bozo a few nasty names over the last few weeks have stopped and now we're all behind him. lol


Just watched the Kent v Hoops and all your comments are correct.

It's a pity that sports journos (and most people I guess) resort to 'the person who speaks louder wins' as Hooper should gotten more owned then he was.

"The nrl showed us a blueprint"
- why wasn't everyone afforded that and Bozo showed Hadley the actual texts that contradict this blue print.

"Bozo must have done it"
- this is about proper procedure that wasn't followed. If you were called a Kiddie fiddler with no right of reply, would you like it?

"Why didn't he come back from holidays?"
-are you seriously suggesting he should have cut his holiday short just so he can rush in and speak to the nrl who had so far been investigating Manly for 9 months?

"The other two were suspended as the nrl can't touch bozo because he is no longer in the nrl world"
- So two things...1) You're suggesting the nrl suspended two innocent people and 2) If they can't touch bozo, then that also means you can't defame him.

etc

Good summary of Hooper's key points. Makes you realise just how stupid he is when you see them listed in a row like that.
 
I have plenty of angst against Manly and it's legends when I see them cannibalize my great Club -( FC 'irrelevance' and 2V firing for instance ).

But I do get incensed at blatant and sustained attacks on anything Manly for the sake of media moguls and NRL powerbroker wannabes @:mad:

The known facts in this case do not support the smug diatribe from NRLHQ :wondering:

Retirement + unlimited data plan = happy @Dan forum traffic 😛


If the traffic keeps up maybe I can retire
 
Can someone please post the DT article from 2 hours ago, I can't access it.

Manly salary cap breach: NRL's processes no respect for greatness ...

THREE days ago the NRL released a two paragraph statement: “The NRL today issued breach notices to two spectators who allegedly made offensive comments towards South Sydney Rabbitohs captain Greg Inglis in round two.

“A spokesman said the two spectators would now be given an opportunity to respond to the notices before any penalty was imposed.”

A day later NRL boss Todd Greenberg announced former Sea Eagles boss Bob Fulton would not be welcomed back to the game now the NRL had completed its salary cap investigation into Manly.

FIRED UP: Manly swear to “stick it to anybody”

KENT: Why NRL couldn’t go hard on Manly

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Bob Fulton rates among the game’s greatest. (Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)
Unlike the two spectators, Fulton got no interview.

Unlike the two spectators, he got no breach notice, no opportunity to respond to the allegations Greenberg soon went public with.

The disparity between the treatment of Fulton, a Manly premiership winning captain, premiership winning coach, one of the original four Immortals, a former Australian captain, former Australian coach and a former Australian selector and two fans on the hill raises serious questions about the judgment of the NRL leadership.

Leave aside for a moment your own thoughts on Fulton’s conduct.

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NRL CEO Todd Greenberg wanted to push on. (Brett Costello)
The NRL is all about process these days. So much, it almost chokes to a standstill.

Two years ago Parramatta got busted cheating the salary cap.

“I would expect in the coming weeks that there will be a file handed to the agents’ accreditation committee which will look at any range of material issues,” Greenberg said about the 11 player managers implicated in the Parramatta salary cap cheating scandal.

Greenberg said that in July 2016. There have still been no charges laid as the NRL goes through its due diligence.

Somebody’s head should roll at the NRL over the extraordinary incompetence occurring at headquarters.

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Greg Inglis was allegedly abused at Penrith Stadium. (Mark Kolbe/Getty Images)
The lack of judgment has reached new levels.

How can a game defend itself when it affords two fans in the stands, alleged to have called Inglis a “black dog”, better treatment than a man who has achieved everything the game has offered over more than 50 years?

It goes to the highest level.

New Australian Rugby League Commission chairman Peter Beattie began his press conference on Tuesday by saying, “Look, I’m a lawyer and I have to say it is a pretty compelling case.”

Really.

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Peter Beattie defended the NRL’s process. (AAP Image/Brendan Esposito)
If so, as a lawyer, Beattie would have known and respected the basic principle of fairness, which dictates any allegations are outlined with supporting evidence which you are then given the opportunity to defend.

Like the two blokes got at Penrith.

As a former lawyer Beattie, the game’s spokesman, should have known he was on unstable ground.

But no.

“I’ve been a Bobby Fulton fan all my life, I grew up watching him play for Manly and I think he is a legend in many ways, but no legend is above the game,” Beattie said.

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Bob Fulton with the world cup and Brad Fittler.
No, but surely, at the very least, he is entitled to the same rights as two men in the stand.

Beattie can still fix it by addressing the serious mishandling of this entire investigation underneath him. While he says the evidence is compelling, he is speaking only to the NRL’s report, not whether it was thorough or accurate.

This is not a guilt or innocence argument. Most have already formed their own opinion on Fulton based not on the evidence — the NRL has released no details of the investigation — but on their previously held views about him.

There are other concerns about the investigation process, and not just that a legend of the sport was not entitled to the same basic principle of fairness as two men allegedly shouting racial insults.

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What exactly was Trent Barrett punished for? (Adam Yip)
Somebody within the NRL has attempted to cover its incompetence by selectively leaking correspondence with Fulton to suggest he was continually avoiding being interviewed.

Fulton’s text messages from the NRL end December 6, when he was away on holidays and asked not to be interviewed on Skype but said he wanted to do it in person, when he could have legal representation like all the rest that were interviewed.

The NRL’s findings were released on March 26.

Manly coach Trent Barrett was given an official warning from the NRL for not paying close enough attention to his players’ contract negotiations.

This, despite Barrett having no role in contract negotiations. The Sea Eagles work under a model similar to Penrith and St George Illawarra where the coach has an opinion on player talent but no role in their deals.

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Was Fulton wrongly implicated?
Barrett was coach in what the NRL say was the final two seasons of the five-year period Manly cheated the cap by $1.5 million.

The coach from 2012-15 was Geoff Toovey.

If Barrett was worth an official warning then surely Toovey was worth a phone call in any thorough investigation to determine what he knew.

“No one spoke to me at all about the investigation,” Toovey told NRL.com on Tuesday.

“I have no knowledge of what’s happened.

“When they started saying when the problems started to occur, I thought someone might ask me what the situation was.”





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It's so ironic that there is one set of rules for others and one set of rules for the NRL officials.

The NRL code of Conduct
Public Confidence Not to be Impaired 14. (1)

No Club or person bound by this Code shall engage in any conduct that might impair public confidence in the honesty or integrity of an officer or employee of the NRL (including the Chief Executive Officer and the Salary Cap Auditor), Club Officials, Match Officials or Players.

Well Greenvermin has been guilty of conduct that has impaired public opinion in the honesty and integrity of the great immortal Bozo...

Further Turdburger is also guilty of the following breach :

No person bound by this Code shall engage in any conduct that might impair public confidence in the NRL, the NRL Competition,

Who here has confidence in the NRL and the competition under the leadership of Greensprog ?? Not me and certainly not thousands of other members of the public.

So Greenkhant, if you are reading this and along with the other 80,000 documents and emails, go neck yourself or step down.
 
Completely agree. He used to be like this a lot but then went through a very "NRL advocate" period where he was defending them all the time.

Someone has told him to go for the jugular.

I think it's Fulton/Hadley. Greenberg could have pounded Manly all he liked and probably have gotten away with it but I think he has bitten off more than he can chew with his personal attack on Bozo.
 
Just a question;

If the selected leaks from the NRL are so obviously occurring over recent days and the last couple of years, why are we not seeing more detail in the media on the so called compelling evidence against Manly? Surely it would help the NRL win the 'battle'. In the Parramatta case there were detailed revelations every other day because there was actual conclusive evidence to leak. Interesting.
 
As you’d expect the cricket scandal has taken this right of the front / back pages and with Easter around the corner everyone will be more interested in fish ( yummo) , prawns ( super yummo) and cold beers, and you couldn’t blame them for that!

Next Tuesday could be interesting though.
 

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