Rex link said:
[quote author=Kiwi Eagle link=topic=180349.msg222617#msg222617 date=1242191026]
TBH, I really don't have the time, or will, to go on and on about this with you
I haven't seen the show, what I have seen is her version of events in the local rag in Chch, and I have seen Johns response
YOu say I want you to believe what I am saying, I really couldn't give a stuff if you believe it or not. You call them rumours or whatever you like, coming from somebody who worked beside her for a period of time, both leading into and post the event, I can form an opinion from that If i choose
I can't be bothered answering all your questions, just the last one will do.
I am not trying to make anybody guilty or innocent, you are the bloke doing that after a show that provided 1 side of a story.
And you can stop the lecturing to me about the mental state of people having suicidal thoughts, and rape victims and the like. I have far more experience in this area than you would presume
Anyhow, this is a footy forum, so back to the footy for me
lol. I didn't expect an answer to even one of those questions ... questions have the potential to reveal far more than answers. Â But your emotions, interpretations and projections were spicy forum reading Kiwi.
You were interested in people here getting third-hand or fourth-hand or whatever the hearsay smears about her. And you don't care if people believe them, but you do and that's why you support Matty Johns' participation in the bun.
Her background might be relevant if the focus was her - except this is a footy forum. Not a NZ pub waitress forum, much as we all love New Zealand and pubs and waitresses. And except whatever claims are made about her here are smokescreens ... irrelevant... Â when discussing Matty Johns' actions. Â Yes? Â She could have been anyone. Â Johns didn't care to find out anything about her, not even her age being 19. Â He said he wouldn't have engaged in any of those acts if he knew her age. Â He said his actions were immoral.
Seems Matty Johns disagrees with your assessment, Kiwi.
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If you want me to answer questions, put them into a list, and I will answer them for you if you like.
Interested to know what these questions may reveal about me, can you elaborate on that ? Are you saying that because I don't agree with your view my attitude to females is that they get what they deserve or something similar ?
The reason I put what I know about this girl up here, quite simple. All the Johns bashing is coming from a 1 sided documentary, showing 1 side of the story, what is wrong with trying to balance the marks on his character with some info on her ?
My assessment ? All my assessment is that he had broken no laws, and therefore did should not have lost his job from an incident 7 years ago. Pretty simple really. The morality matter is all personal opinion, personally it isn't my go, but if people like that sort of thing, isn't really my business 1 way or the other