Des Hasler!
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The Who
Journey Man
You mean like Elliott, Croker, Parker, Suli, Jetski, Waddell, Boyle, Tafua...?
Kevinward777
First Grader
Yep. Five time Grand finalist as a coach.
I’m very confident that he’ll turn it around. I also believe there is a sound reason why he is choosing the side he is. It’s pretty hard for a team (except for Storm/Roosters and their stacked squads) to beat the opposition when three of their best four attacking players miss most of the season. Walker/Fainu/Turbo.
Yep ... some people are unjust and unfair .... but at least Dessie has you to make excuses for him ... I mean .... other teams have had no injuries ....
Haha yes but, you may not have noticed this but Bellamy and Robinson can choose from some of the best wingers in the competition, so it's not comparing apples with apples.
As for Jorge, we know his limitations. Nevertheless he is the only experienced back we have right now.
Has been a good servant, but like Thommo, its probably just their experience and toughness keeping him there for now.
Some teams have had far more than us, but I don't know of any that lost 3/4 of their first choice spine for so much of the year. We are missing in the most critical areas, and it's hurt us!
Des is not the messiah he is a naughty naughty boy!
The Who
Journey Man
Funa, Miski, Harper, Anderson, Hoppa Jnr, Burbo, Metcalf.....
Kevinward777
First Grader
A a 0
Other teams have had injuries... but you can’t include the Roosters and Storm as a comparison. They are operating on a much larger cap... Bunnies and Eels are likely in the same bracket.
We’ll see where we end up by the end of the season. But I know one thing for sure... the first time we will see a Hasler coached side come second last is between now and never.
No excuses needed... his track record speaks for itself. 5 Grand finals as a coach, 2 premierships, 15 final series, on the cusp of the eight this season despite being robbed blind in two games and missing our best attacking players.
Other teams have had injuries... but you can’t include the Roosters and Storm as a comparison. They are operating on a much larger cap... Bunnies and Eels are likely in the same bracket.
We’ll see where we end up by the end of the season. But I know one thing for sure... the first time we will see a Hasler coached side come second last is between now and never.
The Who
Journey Man
You say DESpicable has Manly at heart so riddle me this: why did he choose to abandon them for fools gold at the Dogs?
Is he, perhaps, in it just for the money? His team selections are so poor that I'm starting to think the Penns haven't paid his salary for a couple of months.
Why doesn't he see the on field performances -- really, the only ones that count -- that fans like me (60 years and counting) who actually pay to support the club see?
Agree 100% ... almost like losing Snake, Matai, Lyon and young Tom .. or Api with a busted foot and Walker with a broken cheek ....
Yep ... he managed to beat Baz by one win in '18 to come 3rd last .... you could hear the champagne corks popping and the cheers coming from Belmore ....
Anyway ... we know that the injuries are not Dessie's fault ... they are Donny Singes .....
JackDaytona
Member
chicken dinner mate the loyalty on this site shown to des makes me wonder what the pedigree of some on here is me life long fan cracking up to 40 years of support soon des shafted us never talk about where his heart is its somewhere out west covered in dog shi* we owe him nothing whatever his past glories were now he is coaching shi* and cant seem to see what is obvious to everyone else id be happy to bin him tomorrow
StuBoot
Bencher
@JackDaytona, any chance of punctuation mate?
Seriously, it's important if you want us to read your posts and actually understand them without having to read them at least twice.
Bearfax
Grizzly old fart
I don't think anyone is refuting Des's loyalty, ability or commitment to the club and he certainly wants to be a winner. He has a great reputation and deserves respect for that. He's got a very tough job holding a side together without three of the four primary attacking weapons, a situation Manly has been plagued with (sorry about the term) since 2015.
However, I've become increasingly pragmatic about things as I've grown older and the idea of unquestioned loyalty and belief is alien to me. I have to see the ongoing action to justify those positions of loyalty and faith, both of which like respect are earned not bestowed. Yesterdays successes do not deny the right to question todays failings even if designed, temporary or just bad luck
Des is not God. Like all of us he has faults. I can respect him for what he has achieved and for how he handles himself, the loyalty to his players, the strategies he uses etc. But that does not mean he cant be wrong on occasions. In this case it may be merely we are not seeing the full picture and there are factors that explain his actions. But then again he could just be wrong, uncomfortable as that sounds. Of course in this instance I could be wrong. But that does not deny, surely, my right to question, and not merely have faith that he is somehow infallible.
However, I've become increasingly pragmatic about things as I've grown older and the idea of unquestioned loyalty and belief is alien to me. I have to see the ongoing action to justify those positions of loyalty and faith, both of which like respect are earned not bestowed. Yesterdays successes do not deny the right to question todays failings even if designed, temporary or just bad luck
Des is not God. Like all of us he has faults. I can respect him for what he has achieved and for how he handles himself, the loyalty to his players, the strategies he uses etc. But that does not mean he cant be wrong on occasions. In this case it may be merely we are not seeing the full picture and there are factors that explain his actions. But then again he could just be wrong, uncomfortable as that sounds. Of course in this instance I could be wrong. But that does not deny, surely, my right to question, and not merely have faith that he is somehow infallible.
Kez
Reserve Grader
Very true indeed stats plus what you just added paints a horrid picture
Kevinward777
First Grader
Baz lol...the super assistant who has won zero premierships as a player or coach.
So your point is 3 spine players missing is much the same as 1? or 2?
My point is no, it's worse!
Not sure what you are trying to say here, Hasler wasn't coaching NRL in 2018
manlyfan76
There is no A.I. Just better computers
I think you will find that someone has missed their nap today.
Ooops ... Senior moment ... or maybe it was just the roster and salary cap position he left them in that confused me ... or maybe I'm just having too much fun ...
| Team | P | W | L | PD | Pts |
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6 | 5 | 1 | 59 | 12 |
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6 | 5 | 1 | 20 | 12 |
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6 | 4 | 2 | 53 | 10 |
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6 | 4 | 2 | 30 | 10 |
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7 | 4 | 2 | 25 | 9 |
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7 | 4 | 3 | 40 | 8 |
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7 | 4 | 3 | 24 | 8 |
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7 | 4 | 3 | -8 | 8 |
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7 | 4 | 3 | -18 | 8 |
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7 | 3 | 3 | 20 | 7 |
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7 | 3 | 4 | 31 | 6 |
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7 | 3 | 4 | 17 | 6 |
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6 | 2 | 4 | -31 | 6 |
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7 | 3 | 4 | -41 | 6 |
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7 | 2 | 5 | -29 | 4 |
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6 | 1 | 5 | -102 | 4 |
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6 | 0 | 6 | -90 | 2 |
