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Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by king2213, Jul 26, 2016.

  1. king2213

    king2213 Well-Known Member

    +1,157 /185
    DCE kicking game will not win us a premiership ! This area of his game needs to improve ( if possible), his next half pairing will need to have a better kicking game than DCE, if we are to ever be top four contenders again

    This will be a huge test for him to see if he can take his game to the next level, regards to playing for field position and placing himself in the right positions to get good kicks away !

    There is heaps of room for improvement

    I hope staff and players can turn this aspect of the game into our strength and not weakness
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    • SeaEagleRock8

      SeaEagleRock8 Sea Eagle Lach Staff Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

      +10,548 /214
      I thought it already has.
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      • lillchip

        lillchip Active Member

        +159 /36
        Didn't Lyon do most of the kicking?
      • Ralphie

        Ralphie Well-Known Member Premium Member

        +2,948 /287
        You beat me to it. His kicking game was awesome in 2011-2013. In late 2014,2015 and this season it has been average. He needs to recapture that earlier form or hand it over to the 5/8th, whoever that will be next year.
      • Fluffy

        Fluffy Well-Known Member

        +5,619 /204
        Didn't see much wrong apart from a miss kick trying to get in behind Burgess.

        The bombs to Burgess allowed pressure and paid dividends, another landed one metre out allowing us to keep them in their 20 for 4 tackles until Brown knocked the pass down.
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        • Shnorky

          Shnorky Active Member

          +271 /10
          I'll take it, a month ago we were looking at a spoon, now we should be happy to see the team evolving and let it continue to evolve
          My only real criticism is to keep brown away from a football field
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          • jbb/james

            jbb/james Well-Known Member Premium Member

            +1,493 /35
            dce to footy is what happy gilmore is to golf. Has the best kick, but not a good game. He is always in 3 minds. Hasnt yet learnt how to build a win.

            In the off season he needs a kicking sensei to teach him patience

            Dont fink, feeeeeeeel. You must become the footballl
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            • Waz13

              Waz13 Active Member

              +351 /9
              Didn't think it was that bad last night. Lyon offers a good alternative as well. DCE has a far better kicking game than a lot of other halves. The reality is we are still very clunky and lack cohesion and this impacts all parts of our game, DCE kicking included. We should have won by 30plus last night and ended up getting home in a close one.
            • pjayz

              pjayz Well-Known Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

              +4,271 /81
              Better service from dummy half will see better kicking from DCE (it isn't that bad anyway). The other issue was that Api chose to give him the ball on a couple of occasions when the attacking line was set for Lyon to get the ball - DCE looked surprised to get it.

              Not trying to rip on Api as he also does some excellent things (that's for sure), but this area of his game is a worry and it is impacting DCE. Look at Smith in Melbourne and how well he gets the ball out to Cronk when it's time to kick - he gets way more time and if it isn't on for Cronk, Smith get's it to Green.
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              • king2213

                king2213 Well-Known Member

                +1,157 /185
                maybe im being a bit harsh :) just trying to push our team towards excellence
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                • Lyonstomenzies

                  Lyonstomenzies Well-Known Member Premium Member

                  +997 /23
                  He never had a bad kicking game with Ballin delivering crisp ball!

                  Ballin could read a game very well and when we had options on either side of the ruck 9 times out of 10 he would choose the best side to go down based on numbers and body language of the defence.

                  The defenders know that DCE will be getting it and at the moment and with the quality on his outside he is reluctant to run or pass it on the fifth.

                  In better days he had Killer and Gift on his outside. That makes the defence be very cautious about rushing DCE as there would always be the chance he would throw one.

                  Also the short kicking game for attacking plays is not what it once was. Snake charging through at 100miles an hour also keeps the defence just that little bit reserved in charging at the kicker. This play will work again when TT gets to full fitness and we practice it at training more.

                  Bottom line is our attack is just too predictable at the moment due to the quality that is on his outside.
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                  • SeaEagle21

                    SeaEagle21 Well-Known Member Premium Member

                    +1,453 /22
                    I think DCE has a great kicking game but it's the injuries (leg injuries) of the last couple of seasons that hasn't allowed him to go for the odd 40-20 that he used to pull off.

                    Needs some good rehab in the off season and once he is confident he is over his injuries he'll be back to his usual self. He came back 4 weeks earlier than expected remember as we desperately needed him back.

                    Notice he isn't taking any goal line drop outs or anything and i think it's all due to managing that injury he suffered earlier this season.
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                    • HappilyManly

                      HappilyManly MWTS Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

                      +19,027 /367
                      Chez's dud kicking won Manly a Golden Point match a fortnight ago :wasntme:

                      His syndesmosis is still a huge issue so the kicking duties are being shared with Killer.

                      Api is still deciding who to pass to after he picks up the ball from dummy half. :confused:Last night there was another of his wasteful double pumps from dummy half :banghead:

                      WIP - just keep winning :wait:
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                      • Normie

                        Normie Well-Known Member

                        +486 /4
                        At one stage in the 2nd half last night, DCE was hobbling in the back play and then it appeared that Lyon & others took on the kicking duties.
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