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17 May 2025 05:30 PM


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Aaron Schoupp named at #11 in NSW Cup. I wonder if that's a plan moving forward to possibly turn him into a backrower for that left edge spot and/or getting in some reps incase Haumole makes SOS.
I wouldn't mind that. I've watched him at Brookie in reserves and he has some grunt and attitude we could certainly use in this pack of ours. He's also pretty solid.
 
This game on Saturday should be renamed the Broke Back Mountain Cup because we're getting done big time by some rampaging Cowboys. BUT, the week after this is the Eels and we'll be missing origin players and hopefully they'll have Moses out, then the Broncos who'll have plenty of players backing up after origin, then the Knights, then the tight ones. In theory, that's not an awful run and if we're any good we should win most of them.... if we're any good...... and unfortunately we're probably not.
 
We certainly have the team to do MUCH better.

We don't have the coach to get the best out of the team.

We aren't a Premiership threat but we are much better than what we've seen lately.
If they want to be better that is.

Not sure it’s all the coaches fault, I’m starting to see a disconnect on the field and that’s down to the players.
 
Two steps forward, one step back.

I don't think that Jake plays all that different at prop, than he does at lock. If your lock isn't even going to run the ball, which Tevaga didn't do a lot of on Sunday, you may as well put Jake there, and have two better props. I think Croker will be in NSW cup this week, so Tevaga is genuinely the short term solution this time.

Bullemor and Navale are great changes. Lodge should ideally come in for Waddell.

Could it be that Walsh debuts next week ahead of Arthur? If we want to go all in on freeing up cap space for 2026, we could send Brooks into the abyss, and play Fogarty/Walsh next year. Obviously getting ahead of myself here, but he's doing something right to play two Flegg games, a NSW Cup game, and then appear on a first grade team list.
I agree about Jake. He just doesn't have have the pace or size that's needed for props these days. Or lock for that matter. He really is just in the team for his defence and ..... heart. But this situation isn't on him. We just don't have the engine. I know they get bagged a bit but really Paseka and Aloaia are our best go go forward props. Throw in TKO (I think he's been our best for a few weeks now - which says a lot!) and Bulle and we have a much stronger side. But that just isn't going to happen. I would throw in the fact that poor old Haumole was playing busted on Sunday and looks like he heeds weeks off. It was pretty disturbing watching him out there trying to play on with whatever the heck is wrong with his shoulder. Ben tries hard but isn't a game breaker and we don't seem to know how to use Tevaga and Simpkin. Consequently the pack is just an injured mish mash and it's very hard to compete at a high level like that.
But at least we finally dropped the dumb idea of a back on the bench. Tom is also not fit but the forwards can't afford to be short because of it. But anyway .....
 
This game on Saturday should be renamed the Broke Back Mountain Cup because we're getting done big time by some rampaging Cowboys. BUT, the week after this is the Eels and we'll be missing origin players and hopefully they'll have Moses out, then the Broncos who'll have plenty of players backing up after origin, then the Knights, then the tight ones. In theory, that's not an awful run and if we're any good we should win most of them.... if we're any good...... and unfortunately we're probably not.
Maybe the Knights , they know how to lose , the others , no chance
 
Can only hope. Ego alone should do it. But just maybe his age is actually catching up with him and he just can't put strong games back to back anymore. It's looking like 1 in 5 games at the moment
Yet , supposedly , he’ll get a million a year for two years at the Rorters.

It’ll have to be that as he knocked back $750k with us.
 
Yet , supposedly , he’ll get a million a year for two years at the Rorters.

It’ll have to be that as he knocked back $750k with us.
Maybe he's got everybody fooled, Mark. If he's got enough good players around him like he did back in 2011, he might just get away with it. And the Rorters will have Robson, Teddy and Walker and a strong pack. He's laughing!!
 
So the selection regresses back to Jake at lock, Ben in the 2nd row and Waddell on the bench. This to me is the crux of the problem, Jake is too slow for lockforward, Burbo and Waddell are reserve graders. They keep selecting the same old same old and wont deal with the obvious problems we have.

I would have young Joey Walsh on the bench so we can blood a kid who is our future and have a ready made replacement for our halves all set to go!
 
LOL Seidud shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic. Does it matter who he picks and where anymore. This train wreck team is now a clown show to watch. Every team will be looking forward to playing the guaranteed 2 points. Might as well rename us to the bye.
 
Yep, it's also known as losing the locker room.

When a coach is unable to get his players connected and ready to rumble.
Yes that’s possible as well BUT you’d have to say the $CE issue is the more likely cause as go back to the games before he made his announcement!!

Different team ( same players )
 
Yes that’s possible as well BUT you’d have to say the $CE issue is the more likely cause as go back to the games before he made his announcement!!

Different team ( same players )
Not sure I agree it's all because of $CE and his self serving show. We've served up this same dogsh*t for years now. We have arguably the most sh*thouse pack in the competition. With no go forward then backs can do very little. The whole club is in a disconnect and it's not just because the captain is moving on. Certainly hasn't helped but last year we had Paseka, Aloiai and Lodge up front giving us a fair wack of grunt. All been missing this year. How the fu*k Waddell and Burbo keep their spots is beyond me but there's just nothing to pick from. Seriously if Lodge doesn't get a run this week and Jake back at lock it's just clueless coaching.
 
Yes that’s possible as well BUT you’d have to say the $CE issue is the more likely cause as go back to the games before he made his announcement!!

Different team ( same players )
Not really. In most games we have won except the Panthers, which was the best win of all imo. We had ALL the momentum in penalties and six against. We are and have been for many years good under these circumstances, as are most sides in today's game. Yes DCE has contributed, no doubt. Which is why I don't understand how our coach has kept him in charge of the playing group.

Like I said, it displays weakness. It screams "you can walk all over me and the club."

No doubt it would have upset a bunch of our players.
 

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