Confirmed: PNG Team Coming 2028

[Tragic Eagle]

Look I hope it works but I can't see the PNG franchise surviving. There is no way that I would travel to PNG to watch Manly play. It's a dangerous place. They will struggle to attract top players and IMO will struggle to attract viewers once the initial novelty wears off.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Look I hope it works but I can't see the PNG franchise surviving. There is no way that I would travel to PNG to watch Manly play. It's a dangerous place. They will struggle to attract top players and IMO will struggle to attract viewers once the initial novelty wears off.

Locally it will be a huge success but if they can’t attract some top players they’ll be left with Hunters group , which is reserve grade at best.

I think some will go up there , the money will be a huge carrot ( I think we’ll see our first two million dollar contracts ) but it’s doubtful they’ll attract 20 NRL quality players.

So yes , you’d expect them to be consistent wooden spooners for a few years and other than locally they won’t rate on TV.

Which just supports the view that it’s a dumb decision.

 

[Dion Johnson]

vaporware nuclear power (5% baseload btw) cost?

I recently have done some work on a nuclear power project in the UK and to give you an outlay of cost to build a 3,260MW nuclear facility is around 48billion pounds, now take into account the likelihood of construction being behind schedule and original design variations my thoughts this won’t be far off 52 billion pounds, that is around 1billion pounds for 62MW.

From a document I seen the cost proposal for 1000MW was 9billion in Australia, I personally find this is very low and without exaggeration it is more likely to be around almost double that (18billion for 1000MW), typically bodies make the project cost lower to get final investment decision for the project to go ahead and that’s typically why project cost blows out.

3260MW produces roughly enough power for around 6million homes.

Roughly this will cost the household user around 15 cents per kilowatt for an hour.

 

[The '47ers]

I recently have done some work on a nuclear power project in the UK and to give you an outlay of cost to build a 3,260MW nuclear facility is around 48billion pounds, now take into account the likelihood of construction being behind schedule and original design variations my thoughts this won’t be far off 52 billion pounds, that is around 1billion pounds for 62MW.

From a document I seen the cost proposal for 1000MW was 9billion in Australia, I personally find this is very low and without exaggeration it is more likely to be around almost double that (18billion for 1000MW), typically bodies make the project cost lower to get final investment decision for the project to go ahead and that’s typically why project cost blows out.

3260MW produces roughly enough power for around 6million homes.

Roughly this will cost the household user around 15 cents per kilowatt for an hour.

Coal keeps the lights on 👌🏻

 

[mickqld]

One of the more rediculous decisions ever from a Govt trying to buy favour and scared of others encroaching. The corruption and pocket filling by those involved that will stem from this hand out will be staggering.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

One of the more rediculous decisions ever from a Govt trying to buy favour and scared of others encroaching. The corruption and pocket filling by those involved that will stem from this hand out will be staggering.

The grubby PNG politicians are absolutely running their hands together with glee.

I doubt if much at all of these funds will actually reach the Hunters Football Club , and even if it does , the waste there by local management will be horrendous.

Luckily the player payments , football club payments & travel are laid direct by the NRL.

It’s virtually 600 million pissed up against the wall.

 

[MW66]

I would imagine there is some risk we will lose our young PNG winger/centre Naiyep from the Flegg team to the franchise if he kicks on.

 

[Nike]

Omg how do you people not understand that Australia's foreign policy in the Pacific region is dictated by the United States? This was clearly demonstrated when the LNP fumbled the Solomon Islands and they sent the SECRETARY OF STATE.

The United States is a global superpower, arguably the most dominant. Australia is a middle power which serves a crucial role at much more benefit for them. Australia is a key geographic base for communication, logistical, intelligence and many other installations used to enforce said dominance.

Australia's role as a middle power within the global order under US hegemony means we are assigned regional responsibilities - like strengthening ties with PNG.

I am not saying the Americans told us to specifically give them a rugby league team. I wouldn't be surprised if they pressured Australia to reassert it's regional role and this is a result. In fact I can't think of a better explanation why the NRL would admit this team.

For what it's worth I don't really agree with it because I don't agree with the reasons mentioned above that caused this outcome. However agree with it or not, it's happening.

Given this is now reality the current primary concern is the potential impact for the NRL as a whole and so far, it's a pretty good deal - great even. The most likely outcome is the team will probably fold when the funding ends, if not sooner. When it does it'll be a lot easier to repurpose the existing NRL resources for another team and market for a hell of a lot less I'd assume.

 

[Status Quo]

• Federal Government to provide $600M over the next 10 Years
• Based in Port Moresby

ARLC and Federal Government confirm historic Pacific Rugby League Partnership

In a landmark, world first sports diplomacy deal, the Australian Rugby League Commission (ARLC) has confirmed an agreement with the Australian Government to fund a 10-year Pacific Rugby League Partnership.

www.nrl.com

• Federal Government to provide $600M over the next 10 Years
• Based in Port Moresby

ARLC and Federal Government confirm historic Pacific Rugby League Partnership

In a landmark, world first sports diplomacy deal, the Australian Rugby League Commission (ARLC) has confirmed an agreement with the Australian Government to fund a 10-year Pacific Rugby League Partnership.

www.nrl.com

Bloody Labor Government taking action again for a positive outcome that will benefit tens of thousands of people and their families.
Tax cuts for all, wage rises for the poor, subsidised medications for the sick, the list of policies to help people is very long............
Is there any money in the coffers for Brookvale?

 

[Once Was Brissie Kid]

The NRL will soon get to 20 teams. The NRL will go to conference system with 4 groups of 5 teams in each, but not based on geography, using colouring-in books links instead. These teams will play each other twice each season.

Horseback: St George, Knights, Broncos, Cowboys, 19th team
Mythology: Titans, Raiders, Warriors, Storm, 20th team
Circus: Roosters, Rabbitohs, Bulldogs, Tigers, Panthers
Seashore: Sharks, Dolphins, Sea Eagles, Kumuls, Eels

😛

 

[manly al]

The NRL will soon get to 20 teams. The NRL will go to conference system with 4 groups of 5 teams in each, but not based on geography, using colouring-in books links instead. These teams will play each other twice each season.

Horseback: St George, Knights, Broncos, Cowboys, 19th team
Mythology: Titans, Raiders, Warriors, Storm, 20th team
Circus: Roosters, Rabbitohs, Bulldogs, Tigers, Panthers
Seashore: Sharks, Dolphins, Sea Eagles, Kumuls, Eels

😛

interesting concept but can not really seeing it happening .
A F L has 18 sides now and another from Tassie maybe happening in future times but don't think that i have ever noticed a conference type proposal there and sure that just like in the N R L , there will be a range of reasons .
Not least the broadcasters who i suspect , would be very reluctant to offer considerable less variety to the viewing public in the general comp makeup , let alone the almost inevitable reduced level of interest in the comp proper then .
Then the also inevitable difficulty in matching up or grading the sides to a satisfactory level .
Doubt it will ever happen even with a two tier [ 10 side each ] arrangement but again interesting to look at possible different formats

 

[Once Was Brissie Kid]

interesting concept but can not really seeing it happening .
A F L has 18 sides now and another from Tassie maybe happening in future times but don't think that i have ever noticed a conference type proposal there and sure that just like in the N R L , there will be a range of reasons .
Not least the broadcasters who i suspect , would be very reluctant to offer considerable less variety to the viewing public in the general comp makeup , let alone the almost inevitable reduced level of interest in the comp proper then .
Then the also inevitable difficulty in matching up or grading the sides to a satisfactory level .
Doubt it will ever happen even with a two tier [ 10 side each ] arrangement but again interesting to look at possible different formats

What i posted was silly, but if the tv was choosing, there will be 2 conferences.
One will be all Sydney teams playing each twice each season, plus 1 game against the teams in the other conference, which will the non-Sydney clubs. Vice versa. Warriors will be made visit Perth and PNG every year.

 

[Status Quo]

Albo can't even look after the everyday Aussie but we'll throw $600M down the chute in other country.

The Albanese government has passed hundreds of bills into law to help and support the "everyday Aussie"
The media doesn't inform the general public, therefore you don't know about them.
The Albanese government has no control over The Reserve Bank and interest rates.
When the Albanese government came to power inflation was 6.2%, now inflation is 2.8%
Unemployment continues to fall under the Albanese government.
More people working means more Tax Revenue for the Albanese government to spend on programs that help "everyday Aussies"

The Albanese government has no control over The Senate that block bills that will help people.
The Senate is controlled by The Liberals and Nationals and Greens and smaller Minor Parties.
Luckily, The Greens and smaller Minor Parties supported the Tax Cuts for everyone, the Pay Rises for the very poor Aussies, cheaper medication on the PBS and finally The Housing Policy.
There is a very long list of things that Albo's government have done to help the "everyday Aussie" whilst the Capitalist System kicks the f#ck out of us.

The Liberals and Nationals continue to vote NO against all the Labor policies that are designed to help the "everyday Aussies"

It is crucial for The Australian government to support our neighbouring countries such as P.N.G. and The Solomon Islands, financially and diplomatically, in order to stop them becoming Chinese military bases.
Another diplomatic and financial victory has been the lifting of debilitating tariffs by the Chinese government.
By doing this the Albanese government has saved thousands of jobs in multiple industries.
"Everday Aussies" have a lot to thank the Albanese government for.

Go Manly!!!!!!!!

 

[Status Quo]

I think some people see this number in isolation and don't consider the relevant context.

Foreign aid and development programs are a core part of international diplomacy and geopolitics. In the last 10 years (under both Labor and Coalition governments) Australia has spent a combined total of around $45 billion (with a B) in foreign aid and development programs. Foreign Aid spending as a percentage of Gross National Income has actually been dropping in recent years.

Source: Trends - Australian Aid Tracker

PNG has a long relationship with Australia but it's naive to think that all foreign aid by all countries worldwide is implemented purely out of the kindness of their hearts... there are usually strings attached, usually for security and business reasons.

If PNG announced tomorrow that they'd signed a security agreement with China... it would possibly mean that China would build a military base/s in PNG on Australia's doorstep. It would then likely follow that they would then be able to control, influence or have preferential access to PNG's large amount of natural resources (at the expense of Australia and Australian companies). There are also shipping lanes and PNG ports that could be susceptible to undue influence (see: Billions of dollars of Australian exports being stranded in Chinese ports in 2020 due to 'administrative decisions').

The Australian government could have changed nothing regarding PNG foreign aid and simply hope the above scenarios don't happen. But the long term benefits to the Australian economy in avoiding these scenarios would be far greater than the $600m total outlay for this project. Given the federal opposition's silence on this issue, I suspect they agree.

Again, the project is not guaranteed to be successful, but that is why the exit clauses are there.

Beautifully said Scorpio.
I whole heartedly agree with you.

 

[Status Quo]

Albo has been Spending our Money like a Drunken Sailor since he has been elected
This is the final act of Gross Mi$$$$management by the Labor Government
The Next election can not come soon enough

Labor governments spend money on programs and projects that will help and benefit people and the nation.
By not spending money to help Australia's people makes the Liberals and Nationals very dangerous.

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

Nicely put in your comments above, SQ, Scorps.

However when talking to some correspondents here, it’s often like this:

If they’re rusted on News Ltd readers/viewers, brought you by the American and his not too bright oldest son*, or regular viewers of Stokesy’s Seven News (WA’s News Ltd Jr), et al, then it’s generally a lost cause. They’re not ingesting facts or reason.

As you have both intimated, soft power initiatives like the 18th team in PNG and foreign aid in general*, are much cheaper than hard power alternatives. Even the Coalition belatedly got this back in 2018, when they kicked off their Pacific ‘step up’.

*Ever listened to Lachlan when he is being interviewed? Painful.

 

[Bearfax]

The Albanese government has passed hundreds of bills into law to help and support the "everyday Aussie"
The media doesn't inform the general public, therefore you don't know about them.
The Albanese government has no control over The Reserve Bank and interest rates.
When the Albanese government came to power inflation was 6.2%, now inflation is 2.8%
Unemployment continues to fall under the Albanese government.
More people working means more Tax Revenue for the Albanese government to spend on programs that help "everyday Aussies"

The Albanese government has no control over The Senate that block bills that will help people.
The Senate is controlled by The Liberals and Nationals and Greens and smaller Minor Parties.
Luckily, The Greens and smaller Minor Parties supported the Tax Cuts for everyone, the Pay Rises for the very poor Aussies, cheaper medication on the PBS and finally The Housing Policy.
There is a very long list of things that Albo's government have done to help the "everyday Aussie" whilst the Capitalist System kicks the f#ck out of us.

The Liberals and Nationals continue to vote NO against all the Labor policies that are designed to help the "everyday Aussies"

It is crucial for The Australian government to support our neighbouring countries such as P.N.G. and The Solomon Islands, financially and diplomatically, in order to stop them becoming Chinese military bases.
Another diplomatic and financial victory has been the lifting of debilitating tariffs by the Chinese government.
By doing this the Albanese government has saved thousands of jobs in multiple industries.
"Everday Aussies" have a lot to thank the Albanese government for.

Go Manly!!!!!!!!

Though I think you over glorify the Albanese government (there are issues I feel that are contrary to our interest such as in fossil fuels etc) I do agree that in general they are doing a fairly reasonable job. Internationally I applaud most of their efforts to take a stand on some issues that our major ally opposes, and this will become more difficult with the incoming Trump administration. Certainly the media, dominated by News Corp, has a distinct right wing bent and isn't going to give kudos for positive things the Albanese government do. SMH and associates are a little more balanced, but I accept that we usually only hear the negatives in news media. I certainly hope the Australian public researches issues more than the Americans do, and avoid the extreme right wing elements I see developing around the World. The left wing seem to be containing the more extreme elements on that side. Your points are worthy of consideration, though I think in respect of the PNG rugby league issue, its a potential can of worms if not handled very well. I'm not confident, but still hopeful.

 

[Frogz]

Wow...I didn't know Albo, his fiance and Penny Wong posted on Silvertails.

 

[The Who]

Wow...I didn't know Albo, his fiance and Penny Wong posted on Silvertails.

We'll know who to recruit if we are in need on a left winger.

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

‘On’ or ‘of’, Mr Sun?

Australia always fares somewhat better when you rule from the sensible centre. That’s what is happening now. Not the far right or far left.

I’m sure you and Bela already know that.