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Shnorky
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Hell work it out spooner or later
Clint Gutherson......
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Peter C
Bencher
Nah, let them stay where they are, for the past five seasons Will has been getting big money without really setting the world on fire, and is slow, as for Gutherson , for us to take him away from the Slime you would have to look at around $550,000 + , he has already had two knee reconstructions, the only thing he really has to offer is energy, he's not a playmaker, he's a goer, but so was Lewis Brown.
Gutho would be worth that kind of money if fit, but yes he is a risk. Hoppa is only 25, and some of his best performances for the Bulldogs have been quite recent. I think he still has untapped potential and could return to something more akin to his 2011 form. I think playing for Manly and with his brother would do him a world of good and that would be reflected on the field.
I shouldn’t laugh because zero tackle has Manly with 27 off contract! Only DCE, Turbos x2, AFB, Taupau and Elgey signed beyond 2019 (and all but DCE have their last year as 2020). The list has not taken into account the resigning of Siro and Api.
https://www.zerotackle.com/rugby-league/teams/manly-sea-eagles/
HoldenV8
Journey Man
Would I bring Gutho back to Manly if it were up to me?
Maybe. I know he has been relatively healthy for about 2 years now, but I still can't take the feeling that he is one side-step, one awkward tackle away from a 3rd ACL injury and that to me is probably a risk too far.
We've already spent the past two years with enough players getting paid and sitting on the sidelines with injuries or whatnot. And we're going to be down $330k as it is next year.
I'd honestly rather we brought Will Hopoate back to the club.
Maybe. I know he has been relatively healthy for about 2 years now, but I still can't take the feeling that he is one side-step, one awkward tackle away from a 3rd ACL injury and that to me is probably a risk too far.
We've already spent the past two years with enough players getting paid and sitting on the sidelines with injuries or whatnot. And we're going to be down $330k as it is next year.
I'd honestly rather we brought Will Hopoate back to the club.
You are officially a better Manly supporter than me. I love 'em to bits but have never dreamt of signings. Well done you!
I would be hoping a youngster is in the wings to take advantage if Elgey is a misfire, though I must agree, at times during that 2018 season would have loved Gutho as our 5/8.......
brad
First Grader
I reckon Elgey will be fine . Lacks confidence sometimes, but with the coaching staff we have he'll shine
Got a great passing game , can kick and break the line just need to fix his D up .
Loobs
Living in the demountable.
All his home games on the ACL cemetery
It’s a no from me, only because that ship has sailed.
Should we have kept him, absolutely!!
Should we pay him big dollars to return given his injury issues , nup!’
Should we have kept him, absolutely!!
Should we pay him big dollars to return given his injury issues , nup!’
Walter Perolta
Reserve Grader
Hes the smarter option isnt he... gutherson is a gun he can kick goals and witha good team is an origin player imo but! Such a big risk, we already have injury prone players like sironen taufua hodkinson and elgey. Id love for him to come back i think he'd really kill it at manly but hoppa is the safer option and imo he is yet to reach his full potential
HoldenV8
Journey Man
With Will we really had no choice but to let him go because he was going on a Mormon mission for 2 years. But we should never have released Gutho in the first place.
Terry Zarsoff
First Grader
If Denoel Clasler did offer Clitherson a deal, they could always say “It was Trob Barton that let you go, not us!”
manly al
First Grader
Hindsight can be a convenient reference point again in the case of or suggesting some merit for not releasing Gutho at the end of 2015 or so but again the reality was that there were not easy options at the time . Retain Gutho or not recruit Walker or alternately let go either Snake or Matai and which of course was definitely not in favor at the time . Probably could have only had one more higher paid player after D C E and Tom on the books as back line players in the past couple of seasons in any case even if Gutho did stay so i guess the choice then would have been either Walker or Gutho again . Both have had their injury issues in recent times but on balance , i guess the preference would have been for Dylan . Just one of those times where ideally it would have been good to have kept a talented local junior in Manly colours , similar to Will Hoppa , but circumstances just worked against it . Let 's hope that there is some better luck in keeping young Albert Hoppa in the back line ranks in many future seasons for Manly .
At least another 4 or 5 million left I’d say , they use very little of the cap when attracting big name players, you can bet Cronk is on about $200k cap and $900k Uncle Nick.
Shoe1
Journey Man
Yeah but the eels have 28!! Haha!!
| Team | P | W | L | PD | Pts |
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6 | 5 | 1 | 59 | 12 |
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6 | 5 | 1 | 20 | 12 |
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6 | 4 | 2 | 53 | 10 |
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6 | 4 | 2 | 30 | 10 |
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7 | 4 | 2 | 25 | 9 |
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7 | 4 | 3 | 40 | 8 |
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7 | 4 | 3 | 24 | 8 |
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7 | 4 | 3 | -8 | 8 |
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7 | 4 | 3 | -18 | 8 |
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7 | 3 | 3 | 20 | 7 |
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7 | 3 | 4 | 31 | 6 |
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7 | 3 | 4 | 17 | 6 |
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6 | 2 | 4 | -31 | 6 |
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7 | 3 | 4 | -41 | 6 |
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7 | 2 | 5 | -29 | 4 |
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6 | 1 | 5 | -102 | 4 |
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6 | 0 | 6 | -90 | 2 |
