SeaEagleRock8 said:
Ramrod said:
SeaEagleRock8 said:
Ramrod said:
SeaEagleRock8 said:
Until Manly showed him the door and he had to play in Europe.
Not Manly.
De$ was in full control and De$ showed him the door.
If you have doubts, ask Beaver, ...but he'll probably be too nice to say it aloud.
Come on Ramrod false logic is not your usual style. Maybe you are suffering a post NYE hangover?
So Manly did not release Gift either - that was merely Phil Sydney's decision?
Pro sport is a ruthless business and Manly has been one of the most professional clubs for decades. Including when Des held sway here.
It's no secret that De$ had total say in player retention when he was in charge.
That's one of the reasons why De$ spat the dummy because the board wanted to have a say...... apart from money, of course.
All that came out when Graham Lowe went to the papers and those infamous Ha$ler email rants were released. All of a sudden, De$ decided he wasn't going to sue Manly after realizing his diatribe was on record and the truth would be disclosed for all to read if it went to court. This saved Manly. If it weren't for those records, Manly may have been destroyed by De$ as we really didn't have the money to throw around like that.
Are you saying Des was going to destroy Manly by … spending too much? on players?
So … the passionate board and owners who put that lunatic in charge of the club finances were … what? Doing a great job for Manly?
I wasn't calling for the return of Hasler, I simply rebutted the romantic fantasy 'people passionate about Manly stay with Manly'.
And personally I don't follow the footy to cheer for the Penns any more than I do to cheer for Kaspersky, URM or any other corporate partners past and present. Whoever aids the Manly cause from time to time is appreciated, and though he's working against us now Mr Hasler has spent more of his life than most doing just that.
I understand now. You're a De$$ie fan.
It's a free country and you have your rights to like whoever you choose.
Same with me. I have my right like many others here, to dislike him.
To answer your statements:
1. "Are you saying Des was going to destroy Manly by … spending too much? on players?"
answer: I think you're not reading what I have said. I've said the lawsuit Ha$ler planned would have caused further financial woes at Manly (poor club).
Not to mention that he abused Dave Warwick and others for not joining him. If he's that good, surely he doesn't need anyone else?
Not sure what you mean on the bit about spending too much on players.
Lawsuit Article:
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nrl/sacked-manly-coach-des-dasler-prepares-to-take-sea-eagles-to-court/story-e6frep5x-1226193093965
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/hasler-threatens-legal-action-over-manly-sacking-20111111-1nafx.html
Then when all the emails started to float, he dropped legal action against Manly. How nice of him.
2. "And personally I don't follow the footy to cheer for the Penns any more than I do to cheer for Kaspersky, URM or any other corporate partners past and present."
answer:
I agree with you here.
Let's just say I'm only cheering for the Penns because they are now able to open their purse strings, being the sole owner.
As soon as they take their money away, my cheering and appreciation will be for the next generous person or group.
My loyalty stays with Manly.
My appreciation is shown to those who donates to our cause (with a clause saying you don't try to hurt us when you leave).
I appreciate Gifty, as he left with class.
I appreciate Kitey, as he left with class.
I appreciate all those who left without trying to harm us.
As Krilich nicely put it, "That's the sort of bloke he is. He doesn't care about anything but Des Ha$ler."
As Mr Ha$ler is working against us, you can't expect us to be nice to him.
You only have to ask the many ex-players and fans what they think of him now.
Don't just take my word for it, his name is mud in the Northern Beaches.
I won't be surprised if he gets heckled walking down these streets.
It would be more serene for him if he moved to Belmore or Lakemba.