AFL v NRL

[lsz]

It amazes me the free pass the afl get

Family separations and pregnancy termination: Hawthorn racism review reveals shock allegations against former coaches

Alastair Clarkson and Chris Fagan are named in a Hawthorn review into how First Nations players were treated during Clarkson's time at the helm of the Hawks. Warning — this story contains details of self-harm, pregnancy loss, and intergenerational trauma for Indigenous people.

www.abc.net.au

Imagine if even any of this happened in the NRL? What a horrific story

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

It amazes me the free pass the afl get

Family separations and pregnancy termination: Hawthorn racism review reveals shock allegations against former coaches

Alastair Clarkson and Chris Fagan are named in a Hawthorn review into how First Nations players were treated during Clarkson's time at the helm of the Hawks. Warning — this story contains details of self-harm, pregnancy loss, and intergenerational trauma for Indigenous people.

www.abc.net.au

Imagine if even any of this happened in the NRL? What a horrific story

To be fair since this was announced it’s been a pile on today ( terrible during GF week for the AFL).

 

[ABTK]

Punchy-kicky ball... almost as crap as soccer...(but not quite)!

 

[Disco]

Plus this would be dominating everything in Vic, WA and SA

 

[lsz]

To be fair since this was announced it’s been a pile on today ( terrible during GF week for the AFL).

I spoke too soon! Still let’s see if they “manage” the problem

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

I spoke too soon! Still let’s see if they “manage” the problem

Oh they will.

The Brisbane Lions coach has had to stand down.

It’s a ****fight

 

[eagle66]

Don't worry, they will find something on the NRL and turn it around.

 

[Eagle 1]

Oh they will.

The Brisbane Lions coach has had to stand down.

It’s a ****fight

Funny how all of this has come to light on the eve of there semi finals, wonder how long they had this hidden for.

 

[Eagle 1]

Don't worry, they will find something on the NRL and turn it around.

Just need Evans to clam up, that would be about 75% of footy gossip right there.

 

[wombatgc]

I wonder if Hawthorn were in the GF, would this be pushed back until the boys got back from Bali?

 

[Nordburg]

Funny how all of this has come to light on the eve of there semi finals, wonder how long they had this hidden for.

Not long,the report from the independent investigation was only returned to Hawthorn last week.Hawthorn were in the process of going through it but obviously had to wait til Brisbane Lions were knocked out of the comp.The media got a hold of it and did their thing.At this stage it seems a bit unfair on Clarkson and Fagan given they are only allegations at this stage

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Not long,the report by from the independent investigation was only returned to Hawthorn last week.Hawthorn were in the process of going through it but obviously had to wait til Brisbane Lions were knocked out of the comp.The media got a hold of it and did their thing.At this stage it seems a bit unfair on Clarkson and Fagan given they are only allegations at this stage

The AFL will need to be very careful, their CEO was all over taking care of the “ victims “ and wrapping our collective arms around them ( his words ), but not a mention of “ these are allegations only and both coaches haven’t yet had the chance to respond “.

If true both will lose their jobs , but it also could be a disgruntled player ( or players ) making **** up in a revenge act for not being chosen.

So they need to be very careful about what they say.

My comment about what it could be isn’t an opinion , just simply stating that there’s often two sides to every story.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

The good thing however is it’ll take any heat off the MWSE, as this is a far bigger story.

 

[Nordburg]

The AFL will need to be very careful, their CEO was all over taking care of the “ victims “ and wrapping our collective arms around them ( his words ), but not a mention of “ these are allegations only and both coaches haven’t yet had the chance to respond “.

If true both will lose their jobs , but it also could be a disgruntled player ( or players ) making **** up in a revenge act for not being chosen.

So they need to be very careful about what they say.

My comment about what it could be isn’t an opinion , just simply stating that there’s often two sides to every story.

At the risk of being piled on,are these incidents in the AFL racist or workplace “bullying”?

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

The AFL will need to be very careful, their CEO was all over taking care of the “ victims “ and wrapping our collective arms around them ( his words ), but not a mention of “ these are allegations only and both coaches haven’t yet had the chance to respond “.

He's on live TV now and refers to 'those making the allegations' and 'those subject of the allegations'.

 

[Budgie]

Regardless of the Hawthorn hideousness, the Swans are light years ahead of most NRL teams, especially our lot, in fan relations:

It’s a joy to see the Swans in a grand final – but what binds them to me is that they live their values

I came to AFL late, but the Sydney Swans made me feel I belonged as I tried to rebuild my world. Now my life revolves around the club

www.theguardian.com

Go the Swannies!!!

 

[ManEagle]

Only watch one game of AFL a year
The GF
But I reckon I see a game ever time I'm at the beach with some chips.
Bloody seagulls.

Is there a team named the Seagulls in AFL ? They would win the comp easily.
Get on it Penn

 

[Mal Cochrane]

At the risk of being piled on,are these incidents in the AFL racist or workplace “bullying”?

Interesting, if true do you think they would have coerced a non aboriginal player to leave his partner/abortion etc?

 

[Nordburg]

Interesting, if true do you think they would have coerced a non aboriginal player to leave his partner/abortion etc?

I’m not sure,but as far as Fagan is concerned,from the outside,he seems to have a close relationship with the indigenous players in his Lions squad

 

[EOL now nesting on the GC]

I'd like to wait until the full enquiry is heard, I just find it incredible, especially in this day and age that someone would try to coerce an indiginous player to leave his partner and or encourage a player's partner to have an abortion for the betterment of his career and not expect to have this request exposed , incredible, if true.

Sometimes not everything is as it seems. This coercion allegation can have a number of paths and without the full picture its impossible to judge.
I'm sure we have all know someone either male or female that was in a destructive relationship that was inheritantly bad for them which they just couldn't see. And I'm just as certain some of youbwill have tried to intervene to try and save them.
Now I'm not supporting whats gone on but as a young sportsman there are often outside factors that influence the direction of that persons career and often its their partner. The said partner could have been a very destructive influence?

We don't know the details so its impossible to judge on this one.

If it turns out to be systemic over a long period of time then yes these coaches will have to answer for their crime.