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I actually think that in any OTHER team, Glen Hall, Phil Moorwood, Mark Bryant, George Rose etc. would actually start in front of Jason King. Des Hasler unfortunately in my opinion is too close to the players, and it dampens his ability to make crucial team decisions.
Really? Moorwood and co. are better than Jason King.
Garts - C'mon mate. Is this a gee up?
I'm say-ing, that Jason King would probably in my opinion not be playing 1st grade at other clubs, when he consistently gets picked for us. Take Moorwood out of the situation. Take Curtis out of the situation. But I'd suggest that at those other clubs, IF King was dropped, WHOMEVER replaced him (say Santa for example) may have had time now to develop.
Oh no, not Moorwood, other players at other clubs. Other clubs with more depth than us.
Make up your mind ffs.
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Yee-eessss....I re-peat....
Take the names out of it, juniors at other clubs would have been blooded, and would have had the chance to develop in Kings stead.
Comprendo?
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Juniors in the calibre of Moorwood and Curtis would not have. Of course juniors in the Mark O'Meley, Roy Asotasi mould would have. Good argument
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Is that right? How do you know who after a solid year in 1st grade may have been able to make a mark or not?
Think Matai.
Good argument.
For the record. The pro's reckon it takes 50 1str grade games for a player to start showing their full potential. King has had his 50. Others haven't.
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haha, get off it. You can tell very early on if someone is up to first grade standard. Phil Moorwood is not one.
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Volley, and answer honestly, did you think Matai was 1st grade standard at the begginning?
No
I agree though with Curtis / Moorwood...but using that logic, why buy Glenn Hall? He's 26 isn't he? He's played 1st grade
No idea ?
Who is a better prop in your eyes. Actually - rate our 5 main props:-
My Order:-
1. Brent Kite
2. Kylie Lauluai
3. Mark Bryant
4. George Rose
5. Jason King
in my view
Kylie was very average this year I thought. I'm a big Rose fan, but he got found out in the Semi against Newie. Bryant was disappoiting this year. King by the last few weeks was our Number 2 Prop. Says more about the club than Jason King though .
Why SHOULDN'T King be fearful of his position in 1st grade? I think Rose is a better prop than King. By remember - the sentiment around my posts aren't about Jason King in particular...it's about Des, and his in my opinion relationship standards with players
Agreed. Shayne Dunley being the prime example imo. . I think he's too close to the players, and I think players like Cuthbo / Ballin & Rose should have been higher in the pecking order. Rose was generally in to cover for injury / suspension from what I see...
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