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2015 vs 2015 Comparison

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by HoldenV8, Aug 28, 2016.

  1. HoldenV8

    HoldenV8 Well-Known Member

    +10,540 /173
    Just an interesting comparison of where we were after Round 25 in 2015 and where we currently are after Round 25 of this year.

    Position - 9th
    Played - 23
    Won - 10
    Lost - 13
    Points For - 444
    Points Against - 480
    Players Used - 29
    Most Tries - Brett Stewart - 16
    Most Goals - Jamie Lyon - 47/65 (72.30%)
    Most Games - Matt Ballin & Daly Cherry-Evans 22, Brett Stewart & Peta Hiku 21

    Position - 12th
    Played - 23
    Won - 8
    Lost - 15
    Points For - 448
    Points Against - 527
    Players Used - 30
    Most Tries - Jorge Taufua - 12
    Most Goals - Jamie Lyon - 50/64 (78.12%)
    Most Games - Lewis Brown 23, Siosaia Vave, Jake & Tom Trbojevic 22

    Have we improved or have we gone backwards? The stats say we have actually gone backwards this season. We've scored 4 more points (less tries but more goals) but have conceded 47 more points and we have won 2 less games than this point last year.

    Injuries have played their part I guess, but we have only used 1 more player than last year so the difference there is minimal really. I guess it comes down to team selection, who missed games though injury, how many games they missed and who they were replaced by etc.
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    • The Who

      The Who Well-Known Member Premium Member

      +7,257 /173
      I think our forwards are better but our backs are definitely worse. Our only attacking option is to throw the ball to a 19-year-old and hope he can continually make inroads. There are far too many ordinary players in our backline. For Barrett to play Poo in every match shows (a) how poor our backline is and (b) that he has a screwed view on Poo's ability.
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      • HoldenV8

        HoldenV8 Well-Known Member

        +10,540 /173
        Can't argue with that.
      • Eagleheart

        Eagleheart Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

        +2,013 /53
        Thanks for the breakdown @HoldenV8.......!

        So really IMO for Tooves to get us to ninth last year was absolutely amazing. He used 29 players but the injury excuse was not trumpeted out ad nauseam to deflect responsibility like it has been this year. (Anyway we all know Tooves was booted purely for political reasons.)

        Was talking to some Faiders supporters yesterday and they were actually angry about Tooves being booted. They thought he was a great coach and a good clubmen which is actually great for the game as well overall. And were wondering why we ever got Barrett etc?

        There is no doubt that some of our new recruits this year have not lived up to expectation, including the coach.

        And no matter which way you look at it, this year we have definitely gone backwards vs last year.

        I really, really hope we improve next year....................!!
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        • king2213

          king2213 Well-Known Member

          +1,157 /185
          include the teams we defeated in 2015 / 2016... this will fine tune the comparison

          also include the distractions, being hammered with the DCE / Foz contract saga, also the sharks circling Toovey and Johns circus
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          • Dee Why Eagle

            Dee Why Eagle Well-Known Member

            +481 /5
            one thing you haven't factored in - but I guess it is subjective - is cattle quality.
            I think that this is where Tooves has outperformed... did better with less quality.
            Before a ball was kicked I thought top 4 was required for a pass mark - general consensus seemed to be top 8... Either way a fail sadly
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            • HoldenV8

              HoldenV8 Well-Known Member

              +10,540 /173
              This is a list of who played 15 games or more for us in 2015 compared to this year (full season).

              DCE, Jake Trbojevic 23
              Matt Ballin, Peta Hiku, Brett Stewart 22
              Willie Mason, Tom Symonds, Ligi Sao 20
              Kieran Foran, Steve Matai, Feleti Mateo 19
              Luke Burgess, Justin Horo 18
              Dunamis Lui, Jamie Lyon, Jorge Taufua 17

              2016 (estimated based on who's likely to play next week)
              Lewis Brown 24
              Jake Trbojevic, Tom Trbojevic, Siosaia Vave 23
              DCE, Josh Starling, Jorge Taufua, Martin Taupau 19
              Api Koroisau, Darcy Lussick, Dylan Walker, Brayden Wiliame 18
              Jamie Lyon, Nate Myles 17
              Jamie Buhrer, Matt Parcell, Matt Wright 15
            • Loaded dog

              Loaded dog flaccid Member

              +694 /11
              In terms of 2015 vs 2015. - nothing has changed?
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              • Fluffy

                Fluffy Well-Known Member

                +5,631 /205
                2015 seemed very similar to 2015

                2016 wasn't too different

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