Every year there are several players that have had a year or two in PL (or Queensland Cup) who burst onto the scene (seemingly from nowhere) but in reality it is because they've been held back a bit and well groomed. Here's some recent ones: 2004 - Willie Tonga, Cameron Smith, Billie Slater, SBW 2004 - Tim Smith Who is the most likely candidate to do this for Manly next year? From the two PL games I saw this year it seems that MAtt Ballin is the man most likely. There was a lot of talk about him last off-season and his work ethic impressed. Seems to me he's been held back this year to gain some experience but will step up to the plate this year now that poster boy Chad has been shown the door. Don't forget that Cameron Smith came from nowhere to get the Qld #9 jumper in 2004. Could Ballin do likewise next year if Smith were to get injured?