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Round 1 v Bulldogs Game day chat

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Berkeley_Eagle, Mar 12, 2009.

  1. Berkeley_Eagle

    Berkeley_Eagle Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    I think it may be time to move on


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    Bulldogs
    1. Luke Patten, 2. Hazem El Masri, 3. Josh Morris, 4. Jamal Idris, 5. Bryson Goodwin, 6. Ben Roberts, 7. Brett Kimmorley, 8. Ben Hannant, 9. Mick Ennis, 10. Michael Hodgson, 11. Gary Warburton, 12. Andrew Ryan, 13. David Stagg
    Interchange: 14. Lee Te Maari, 15. Chris Armit, 16. John Kite, 17. Ben Barba
    Sea Eagles
    2. Michael Robertson,18. Shane Neumann 3. Jamie Lyon, 4. Steve Matai, 5. Andrew Suniula, 6. Chris Bailey, 7. Matt Orford (c), 8. Brent Kite, 9. Matt Ballin, 10. Josh Perry, 11. Anthony Watmough, 12. Glenn Hall, 13. Glenn Stewart
    Interchange: 14. Heath L’Estrange, 15. Jason King, 16. Adam Cuthbertson, 17. Shane Rodney

    Referees Ben Cummins & Brett Suttor; Sideline Officials: David Abood & Adam Reid; Video Referee: Steve Clark

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    Played 108
    won 57
    drew 5
    lost 46
    for 1860 (330-368-14)
    ag 1560 (255-346-7)
     
  2. DSM5

    DSM5 Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    We are certainties to win this.  Their backs lack any class as do their forwards.  Kimmorley will kick all day, and throw the long pass. That's their only hope.  Pity about Clark.
     
  3. Berkeley_Eagle

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    hope he throws an intercept for Killer
     
  4. Fluffy

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    if the referees are under the same boss as the media (which is quite likely) then we will struggle to win this
     
  5. Berkeley_Eagle

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    I pretty confident after todays events
     
  6. Berkeley_Eagle

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    Re: Round 1 v Bulldogs

    2009 season preview: Sea Eagles
    ANZ Stadium
    Saturday 7.30pm
    http://www.nrl.com/Scores/TelstraPremiership/tabid/10240/default.aspx?roundid=770&matchid=5328&defaulttab=Preview

    THESE sides are worlds apart – or at least that’s what their most recent first grade performances would suggest: the Sea Eagles are riding a seven-game winning streak, including premiership glory and world club domination, while the Bulldogs must rally to overcome the stigma of being the holders of the wooden spoon for 2008, their miserable back-end performances thrusting them in line for a ninth – count them, nine! – loss in a row.

    But what a difference a week makes. Off-field dramas have sent the premiers’ preparations into a serious spin. They’ve lost fullback Brett Stewart, suspended by the NRL for a minimum five weeks, which severely compounds their lack of availability in the outside backs.

    Cult Test star David ‘The Wolfman’ Williams, Michael Bani and new recruit Tony Williams are all out injured, which has forced coach Des Hasler to blood Andrew Suniula on one wing. Now, subject any appeal by the Manly club that might allow Stewart to play, Hasler will also most likely shift winger Michael Robertson to fullback and introduce young centre Shane Neumann (four first grade games) to Robertson’s wing.

    The new-look Bulldogs have few injury worries and appear ready to leave their mark in the early rounds of the competition. In the trials they fell 24-12 to the Dragons (but looked impressive nonetheless) and then played spirited footy to down the Raiders 24-16.

    New buy Brett Kimmorley appears to have made a seamless transition into the no.7; he will provide the Bulldogs with great authority behind the ruck.

    Jamal Idris will play just his fourth first grade game, partnering ex-Dragon Josh Morris in the centres, while former Broncos Michael Ennis, David Stagg and Ben Hannant will pick up where they left off north of the border.

    The clash looms as a benchmark in the game’s history, with Hazem El Masri poised to overtake Andrew Johns as the leading all-time point-scorer – he needs just seven points to usurp Joey. (Also, five more goals would give the sharpshooter 800 for his career.) Fans are in for a treat, with fireworks scheduled should the milestone be achieved, while commemorative t-shirts and memorabilia will also go on sale after the game.

    Watch out Bulldogs: Manly’s troubles are all off the field. They are the defending premiers and they became only the second side since the Roosters in 2003 to win the World Club Challenge.

    With Brett Stewart sidelined captain Matt Orford and centre Jamie Lyon will take on more responsibility in attack – which could end in disaster for the blue and whites. Orford’s short kicking game to his outside men is a popular play that reaps heaps of points, while Lyon will test the inexperienced pair of Idris and Morris.

    And you can bet Anthony Watmough will be fired up after his column centimetres in the press this week. There’s no more devastating back-rower in the game; he’ll be looking for short flat passes on the edges before bursting through the Bulldogs line, as he did against Leeds on the way to two tries at Elland Road.

    Watch out Sea Eagles: If the Sea Eagles have shown any weaknesses in defence over the past two years it’s been close to their line. They are mostly watertight but sometimes, coming off their own try-line, they have been found out. They’ll want to be totally focussed here, as scheming Michael Ennis will exploit any complacency.

    How the Sea Eagles go first up with the two-refs system will be interesting too – last year they conceded the second most penalties in the NRL (179) and their discipline will need to have improved or they will find themselves hammered here. By contrast, the Bulldogs gave away 147 penalties all year. And they are the home side in this clash.

    Where it will be won: It’ll be a case of whoever blinks first, loses. Expect this to be a real battle of kicking attrition: it features two of the best ‘boot’ generals in the business. Kimmorley was ranked number one in long kicks to open space in 2008, and number two in overall metres gained by kicks (9470). Orford was ranked three in metres gained off the boot, totalling 8972. Both sides will get plenty of good field position. From there it’s a case of who capitalises the best.

    The History:
    Played 108; Sea Eagles 57, Bulldogs 46, drawn 5. The Sea Eagles have won six of the past eight clashes, including the last three between the sides at ANZ Stadium.

    Conclusion: Emotion will play a huge part in the outcome to this game. The Bulldogs fans will give the Sea Eagles players a red hot ‘welcome’ and much will depend on the Manly players being able to block out the jeers.

    The Brett Stewart drama can’t help but play on their minds. While they still have the talent to win this, it’s likely to be too much for them – especially given their backline limitations. Still, Cronulla rallied in their first game after Greg Bird was dropped...

    Match officials: Referees – Ben Cummins & Brett Suttor; Sideline Officials – David Abood & Adam Reid; Video Referee – Steve Clark.

    Televised: Fox Sports 2 – Live 7.30pm.
    * Stats: NRL Stats.
     
  7. Zep

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    manly 10-0 victors
     
  8. Berkeley_Eagle

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    Hasler will have the Sea Eagles ready

    Greg Prichard | March 14, 2009
    http://www.leaguehq.com.au/news/news/hasler-will-have-the-sea-eagles-ready/2009/03/13/1236919566417.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
    Bulldogs v ManlyTonight, ANZ Stadium, 7.30pm

    What the Bulldogs say
    They're saying they don't expect the off-field drama enveloping Manly to affect their on-field performance. The drama has the potential to affect the Bulldogs' performance as much as it does that of the Sea Eagles. If the Bulldogs were to start thinking Manly might be distracted and off their game, they could lose intensity themselves. The only way for the Bulldogs to approach the game is to believe the Sea Eagles will be at their best.

    What the Sea Eagles say
    Coach Des Hasler says it is business as usual when it comes to getting ready for a game. The off-field events are a potential distraction for the players but, in Hasler, the Sea Eagles have the right man in place to limit the effects. There might be coaches as thorough as him, but none more thorough.

    What Prichard says
    Until you see any evidence of the Sea Eagles coming undone, you have to believe they won't. I anticipate they'll play well, because playing should be a relief. But the loss of the player at the centre of the drama - fullback Brett Stewart - is a major blow, and they can only hope to cover no better than fairly well for that. Everyone else in the team is going to have to work just that little bit harder. The Bulldogs have rebuilt their team, and will need a bit of time to get their act together, but they do have top players in key positions and could threaten. Manly should win, but it might be a battle.

    For Manly to win
    They have to commit to getting the job done in the forwards before they consider letting the ball loose in the backs, but they have proven their ability to be patient. The fact a couple of their most dangerous backs - not only Stewart, but injured winger David Williams - are missing means they might have to be more patient than usual, but the bottom line is that they defend so well they can win in a variety of ways. They are just as comfortable in an arm wrestle as they are in a try-fest.

    For the Bulldogs to win
    They have to be committed to doing all of the "one per centers", as they call them, while their new line-up gels. They have to chase the clearing kicks as if their lives depend upon it, dive on the loose ball like it's gold and get numbers in the tackle at all times. It's the first round, so every team is going to have an element of rust. If the Bulldogs can stick with the Sea Eagles into the second half then anything can happen, because players such as Brett Kimmorley, Michael Ennis and Luke Patten can break a game open.

    The X-factor
    The potential for the minds of the Manly players to drift, based on what has gone on at the club. They're professionals, so they should be OK, but who can say for sure?

    What the bookies say
    Manly opened at $1.40 in head-to-head betting, but eased to $1.50 when the drama claimed Stewart as a victim. They are still at those odds on TAB Sportsbet, with the Bulldogs at $2.50. Punters are taking the 6½ points start to the Bulldogs, which is at $1.80. It's $2 if you want to give the start.

    The late mail
    Hasler is likely to use Shane Neumann on the wing, ahead of Michael Bani.

    Teams
    Bulldogs: L Patten, H El Masri, J Morris, J Idris, B Goodwin, B Roberts, B Kimmorley, B Hannant, M Ennis, M Hodgson, G Warburton, A Ryan (c) D Stagg. Reserves: L Te Maari, J Kite, C Armit, B Barba.

    Manly: M Robertson, S Neumann, J Lyon, S Matai, A Suniula, C Bailey, M Orford (c), B Kite, M Ballin, J Perry, A Watmough, G Hall, G Stewart. Reserves: H L'Estrange, J King, A Cuthbertson, S Rodney.
     
  9. Berkeley_Eagle

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    2gb has just reported Shane Nuemann wont play on the wing
    instead

    Michael Bani is playing
     
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    Thank christ for that. Welcome back Bani!
     
  12. Berkeley_Eagle

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    Bulldogs
    1. Luke Patten, 2. Hazem El Masri, 3. Josh Morris, 4. Jamal Idris, 5. Bryson Goodwin, 6. Ben Roberts, 7. Brett Kimmorley, 8. Ben Hannant, 9. Mick Ennis, 10. Michael Hodgson, 11. Gary Warburton, 12. Andrew Ryan, 13. David Stagg
    Interchange: 14. Lee Te Maari, 15. Chris Armit, 16. John Kite, 17. Ben Barba
    Sea Eagles
    2. Michael Robertson,19. Michael Bani 3. Jamie Lyon, 4. Steve Matai, 5. Andrew Suniula, 6. Chris Bailey, 7. Matt Orford (c), 8. Brent Kite, 9. Matt Ballin, 10. Josh Perry, 11. Anthony Watmough, 12. Glenn Hall, 13. Glenn Stewart
    Interchange: 14. Heath L’Estrange, 15. Jason King, 16. Adam Cuthbertson, 17. Shane Rodney
     
  13. Chip and Chase

    Chip and Chase True Supporter Staff Member Administrator Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    If true, that's great new about Bani.
     
  14. Juz_04

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    Im getting so nervous. Hate the dogs
     
  15. nodd

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    I've had $50 on us to win by 19+ for a $250 collect.

    A win by 1 will do me though!
     
  16. Cletus

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    Does anyone know anything about Suniula?

    And I think we'll towel the Dogs.
     
  17. Juz_04

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    Go back one week and I would have agreed with us smacking the dogs. But then again I always have massive butterflies before a Manly match. It decides whether I am going to cop it at work or not. :)
     
  18. lsz

    lsz Well-Known Member Staff Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    we are getting caned....
     
  19. Berkeley_Eagle

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    So gallop has told the refs to cane us now

    what was Ballin thinking
     
  20. Ryan

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    We haven't looked THIS bad in a very long time.
     

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