Kiwi Eagle link said:
[quote author=Dan link=topic=181572.msg239661#msg239661 date=1252023651]
[quote author=KaZa link=topic=181572.msg239660#msg239660 date=1252023470]
Stop living in the past people.. Orford has done nothing this year.. (even though some think he did something last year...)
He is past it... i wouldnt even re sign him let alone 3 bloodyy years!
Thats madness.. as some have mentioned.. how bad will he be in a few years!
Applause....but wait a while you will get howled down by Kiwi etc who tell you because we won last year, we will win forever more with this team.
anyway applause from me
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Love you too Dan
When have I said that last years team will win every game for eternity ?
I don't mind Orford re-signing, as I see him as the best 7 on our books at this stage, haven't seen Hodkinson at all to assess him
I think Des and Tooves, 2 former international halves, should know a bit about halfbacks and where they were at. They were howled down for thier opinion of Groom, but it seems to have been spot on
Orford was crap last week, as were the forwards and the hooker passing him the ball. Previous 2 weeks to that, forwards went well, Ballin had a blinder v Storm, and Orford plays well in both wins
Form is a funny thing, it can come and go. The 2 most extreme examples from last year to this year would be Kite and Hayne.
Players like Kite and Orford have shown us enough over the years, that a few months bad form should not be a reason to send them packing.
Kite in particular for me, there is the old saying that props peak around 30, and he is only 28ish I think
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The other week you howled me down for saying stop living in the past...same thing!
I am more of a current form person. If you are playing ****, you get a few games, cause you could be having a bad run, but when you continually dish up rubbish you should be dropped.
There doesn't seem to be any real accountability, i fyou play crap you get a dressing down from des then you go and play again next week.
I just dont see that as a motivating factor. Turn up, run around, get paid. Tony Williams had that attitude and look how long it took to finally drop him. the first one to suffer that fate in a long time.
Cuthbo has always been a fringe player so you cant really use him as another example either