Manly in Crisis (a mega thread)

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#crisis ??

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Shaw and Partners are major sponsors that could most probably facilitate finding someone who was interested.

They are a weath management company so if someone was keen to buy us they could defiantly negotiate that deal.

Their head office is also located in the Sydney hub of money building, Chifley Tower. The building is stacked with private equity companies looking to buy businesses to build up then sell off for more that they bought it for. The Sea Eagles would be a great club to buy to do this.

Here is why.

We would be pretty much dirt cheap for someone with some vision to build.

I know the Northern Eagles we’re not very popular, but the geographic nature of the region combined the north shore, northern beaches and the central coast could be a giant.

That would give us a huge nursery to work around capitalising on the depth of the central coast nursery. Building the club around this region and having say the Wyong club as a feeder would be the best way to bring us out of the depths.

If wealthy owners bought the Wyong Leagues club and through heaps of cash at the juniors and community it would be a good investment for the future.

Do the same with say the Gosford and a Northern Beaches club somewhere and have a network of leagues clubs.
URM would be great owners as they love the club, have put in plenty of sponsorship over the years and their business is doesn’t look like slowing down.

We also need to drop the Blacktown area and give the juniors a base to work from like Gosford.

Gosford Stadium is a great ground to watch footy from. Also playing from Brookie and Gosford would be much better option that what we have in place now.

Only problem would be the name of the club??

We all don’t want to change from Manly, but maybe we could incorporate our existing name and that of the central coast??

Happy to hear everyone’s thoughts on the matter.
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I have been shot down here for making the suggestion.

I reckon he is the most likely - not sure if I like it.

I dont think Des will be sacked, nor deserves to be. Penn wont pay him out and employ another coach.
They paid Trent Barrett to pull his plonker?
 
If Des leaves, I think Mag will become the coach. Penn preferred him over Des in 2018 but got rejected.
Results orientated business will be the excuse used and they will effectively replace the coach who has made the finals 2 of the last 4 years with this years wooden spoon winning coach hahahahah
Who ever Penn chooses is guaranteed to be the wrong choice. For the benefit of the club he should do the opposite of what he thinks is correct. That's the best chance we've got.
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Remember when some big dollars flash money guy bought Newcastle and went broke. Players/coaching staff weren't even getting paid the full amount. The club was almost forced out and rescued at the last minute like when Max saved us.
The good thing about the Penns is that they want to stay with us.
Some of the many bad things are, they don't seem to understand footy at all, or fans - what we want and need. I remember Penn stating 'We've got one of the best young coaches in the business." He meant Barret ffs. As mentioned before taking our home game to Suncorp. Not paying a decent media manager to keep us fans informed.
Penn needs to step up. .
Time for another member/fan forum. I'd consider travelling down from QLD for this.
Does anyone know if Penn can be directly contacted?
Penn is a donkey
 
It's tough for we fans that the Penn's always seem to want to take the bargain basement approach. Giving up a massive home ground advantage to the Broncos every year? For some extra cash. Having the Sea Eagles scratch around with the barest minumum front office staff? Staying alive but not prospering.

The demise of Stephen Humphreys has gone way under the radar. Headlines at the time included "Mystery surrounds shock resignation of Manly Sea Eagles boss" and "Chairman cannot comment about sudden departure because 'it's a legal issue'." Humphreys had looked like a CEO windfall for Manly. But in hindsight.... he left a senior position at British Airways to join the club. He was on a trajectory to become an executive vice president of British Airways (as his predecessor at BA did)... and left to become a CEO of Penn's Manly Sea Eagles? Wow. Does this sound too good to be true?

Well without knowing exactly what transpired, we can say for certain it did not turn out too good. For one thing it left Manly minus a CEO. Well, we had Wolman, reputedly the owner of a Point Piper mansion worth $80 million, filling in as 'interim'. I guess Penn didn't offer him enough to ensure he was actually paying attention at the Sea Eagles, because we were left vulnerable to the clumsiest of front office shennanigans, culminating in one of the most brand-damaging events I can recall in sport. And a disastrous, embarrassingly weak end to Manly's season.

And Penn's solution is to knee-cap Des? Great, but without a significant change in Penn's commitment to administering the club on as equally professional a footing as the successful clubs, changes to coach and football staff will probably be like moving deckchairs.

By the way, I agree with those warning 'be careful what you wish for' in terms of the potential for a new owner to turn out even worse. So where does this leave fans? Unfortunately we are left with our hopes for further Manly premiership glory dependent on people who are in effect not accountable.
Well Penn should look at selling some part of the club to another consortium. That way at least more money can be spent in the office and coaching stuff.
 
True. It could be the Nahas family developers, former employers of John Porkbarilaro, fronting for a Middle Eastern crime family, based in Sydney’s western suburbs.
Maybe we could merge them with the 61 gang bangers. Would certainly make us feared.
 

Des-peration at Manly​

Manly are playing a dangerous game with Des Hasler, and if it goes wrong it could lead to him walking away from the club.
Every aspect of Hasler’s Manly set-up is about to be scrutinised and it’s clear the pressure being put on the coach is not sitting well with the players or those under the pump.

Hasler’s staff are about to be placed under real pressure and that uncertainty, coupled with that in the playing group, could be enough to push the coach – who has been at loggerheads with club management following the “pride” jersey saga – out the door.

Hasler’s agent, George Mimis, has tried for the best part of a year to restructure Hasler’s contract to remove performance clauses and to provide stability to the club, but the Sea Eagles won’t budge. That’s a sign management want more power. Hasler is a loyal man, but the club is aware what impact a review – or worse – of his people could have. Hasler is a quirky coach, for sure, but loyalty is really important to him, and he backs his people.

Hasler won’t take kindly to being told who he will be working with and may just decide that kind of interference is not worth it. He is certainly not as popular with management as he was. Officials did not like the way he handled the rainbow jersey press conference where he blamed them for many of the mistakes that were made. Some have not forgiven him for his exit in 2011 to join the Bulldogs.

There is talk at Manly of Stephen Hales being a prospective top-grade coach. It seems unlikely, but he was a favourite of the late Bob Fulton and you can never rule anything out in this game.

Hasler is the only person working 100 hours a week for the club and, in many ways, is the man holding the Sea Eagles together. With millions of dollars of their salary cap out injured – Tom Trbojevic in particular – this seems a strange time to sit in judgment. The club should be looking at the lack of leadership, accountability, revolving door executive team and low football IQ on the board.


Above is from Danny "The Worm" Weirdler column in SMH today
 

Source Daily Telegraph

NRL 2022: Manly Sea Eagles’ factional divide tearing club apart​


Manly is facing one of the most crucial weeks in Sea Eagles’ history as senior officials attempt to unite a club that is being ripped apart by factional bickering and disagreements over the club’s strategic direction.
Sea Eagles chair Scott Penn and new chief executive Tony Mestrov are aware of the fractures, which centre around coach Des Hasler and members of the famous Fulton family, whose father Bob was a club icon and one of the most influential people in the code’s history.
Penn said he was also aware that there were parties outside the club “gunning for Hasler”, who has one year left on his deal.
The turmoil created by the pride jersey fiasco has exposed cracks throughout the Sea Eagles, leaving Mestrov with the complex task of uniting the club.

A News Corp investigation has uncovered the depth of issues, including:
*Some members of the Fulton family harbour concerns with Hasler’s strategic direction and use of emerging stars.
*A list of coaching candidates featuring names such as Billy Slater and Shane Flanagan is being drawn up in case Hasler leaves.
*The Trbojevic brothers are deeply troubled by the infighting and could consider walking out on the club.


*A divide in the player ranks has led to a push to replace captain Daly Cherry-Evans with Jake Trbojevic.
*Rising star Josh Schuster has become central to the tug of war over the club’s direction, with the man touted as a future captain having considered asking for a release.
Factional infighting is threatening to tear the Sea Eagles apart

Factional infighting is threatening to tear the Sea Eagles apart
FULTON-HASLER FAULT LINE
Scott Fulton, as a key figure in club recruitment, has been responsible for mining the Western Sydney nursery that has produced the likes of Schuster, Haumole Olakau’atu and Tolutau Koula.
But the club is in the midst of scrapping Blacktown as a direct feeder club and moving their NSW Cup side back under the Manly umbrella.
Scott’s sister Kristie is the club’s pathways manager while Brett Fulton is the pathway academy coach. Their DNA runs through Manly and the Fulton family count the likes of former media manager Peter Peters and radio icon Ray Hadley among their allies.
Frustrations between the factions at Manly were highlighted after a senior player was given a dressing down after the player was highly critical of teammates who stood down during the pride jersey crisis in July, allegedly by a member of the Fulton family.
Mestrov has a clear mandate to make changes. Hasler still has strong support in some parts of the club, where the likes of Noel Cleal and Don Singe stand in his corner.
He also enjoys the backing of the Trbojevic brothers, while Cherry-Evans has publicly supported the coach. Other players want emerging coach Steve Hales to have more power.
It is understood the Fultons haven’t always agreed with Hasler’s plans in recent times, apparently having become frustrated by the use of players that have been scouted under their watch.
The Sea Eagles risk losing the Trbojevic brothers if things don’t improve. Picture: NRL Photos.

The Sea Eagles risk losing the Trbojevic brothers if things don’t improve. Picture: NRL Photos.
TRBOJEVIC TROUBLE
The Trbojevic brothers are the two most powerful figures at the club but they are known to be frustrated with the state of the Sea Eagles.
If things don’t change they could consider their futures at Manly, which would have devastating consequences.
The brothers are tied to long-term deals that make them among the highest earners in the game. Above all else, they love winning and love the Sea Eagles.
They have lived their entire lives on Sydney’s northern beaches and spurned the opportunity to leave in the past.
But sources close to the club confirmed the pair were at their wit’s end given how this season has unfolded, both on and off the field.
They also fear next season won’t be significantly better given Manly’s inability to dip into the player market, with Wests Tigers back-rower Kelma Tuilagi the only signing for 2023.
They are said to be tired of the lack of unity and coherent direction, which has become a way of life at Manly.
There is a concern among some senior figures in the playing ranks that some within the club are more interested in pushing their own cause, rather than working together to ensure the club can contend for premierships.
The Trbojevics have made it known that they have concerns with some of the personnel decisions that have been made this season.
The Trbojevic brothers are unhappy with the departure of Kieran Foran. Picture: Getty Images.

The Trbojevic brothers are unhappy with the departure of Kieran Foran. Picture: Getty Images.
Both are close to Kieran Foran and made no secret of their desire to see him retained. Instead, Foran will join the Gold Coast next season and the Sea Eagles have since used their salary cap to extend the contracts of Saab and Josh Aloiai, as well as Cherry-Evans.
Some at Manly think Jake Trbojevic should be the captain of the side, if not on his own then in tandem with Cherry-Evans.
While there have been rumours in recent months that the brothers and Cherry-Evans are at odds, News Corp has been told that is incorrect.
They are different personalities and aren’t particularly close off the field, but they respect each other and have a working relationship.
“I am certainly aware that (the Trbojevics) are winners and they want to win,” said Penn, who has flown back from the US to help deal with the club’s issues.
“What we have to do is put the structure in place that is going to give them the best opportunity to win premierships and that is what we want.
“We are all aligned on what outcome we want and what our expectations are. That is a perfectly reasonable expectation of theirs and that matches our expectation.
“If we can’t deliver that then we have to find out who can. It is up to us to find a solution.”
Some figures within the club want to see Jake Trbojevic takeover as skipper from Daly Cherry-Evans.

Some figures within the club want to see Jake Trbojevic takeover as skipper from Daly Cherry-Evans.
PLAYER UNREST
Vision has emerged of a frustrated Marty Taupau sharing a video on his own social media account following the club’s recent loss to the Sharks.
The damning footage appears to show a frustrated Taupau being cut-out of the play on purpose by his teammates in attack.
He throws his hands in the air after repeatedly being used as a decoy.
Taupau played his last game for Manly in the loss to Canterbury on Friday night, having been told that the club did not have the salary cap room to keep him.
Manly officials insist the group is still united but results and performances would suggest otherwise.
It is understood that some players are concerned that others are receiving preferential treatment and not taking accountability for their own performances.
A senior player tried to shift the blame of a poor defensive read which led to a try to junior player in a recent video session. That was met with eye roles from his teammates who have now become accustomed to this.
It is easy to blame the recent pride jersey fiasco, when Aloiai, Saab, Olakau’atu, Schuster, Koula, Christian Tuipulotu, and Toafofoa Sipley boycotted the must-win round 20 match against the Sydney Roosters.
“There has been a bit of friction and it all came to a head with the inclusive jersey,” Penn said.
“That wasn’t the sole reason. I think the reality is that there has been a lot of soul searching since but then we have lost a lot of other players.
“We had a number of injuries and just haven’t played well the last seven or eight weeks. Yes, we certainly have had a disappointing end of the season and yes, we need to make some changes.
“But there doesn’t need to be wholesale changes. The board has been incredibly stable for the last five or six years. There are no issues at all.
“There is no issue at management level because Tony is in and we have a new CFO and a new chief commercial person about to come on board. Management is incredibly stable.
“The centre of excellence is great, we are all in the one place, we have a lot of kids coming through the system, we have seven or eight players who debuted this year.
“At least we are blooding the young players. We have to make sure we have the systems in apace to support them.”
The Sea Eagles’ pride jersey was a key turning point for their season, after seven players stood down from the must-win Round 20 game. Picture: Getty Images.

The Sea Eagles’ pride jersey was a key turning point for their season, after seven players stood down from the must-win Round 20 game. Picture: Getty Images.
THE SCHUSTER DILEMMA
Schuster has become the face of the divide.
The 21-year-old has made no secret in private of his desire to play five-eighth but his path has been blocked by one of Hasler’s strongest supporters in Foran.
Hasler saw the 32-year-old Foran as his best chance to win now and give himself some job security - he has clauses in his contract that extended his deal depending on whether he finished in the top eight and top six.
The Fultons believe they are working towards long-term and sustained success, and want to deliver on Bob’s promise that Schuster will one day captain the Sea Eagles.
Hasler’s stance caused angst within the club. Foran has never been a favourite of the Fulton family after he signed with Parramatta in 2015, souring his relationship with Bob.
Josh Schuster has become the face of the divide, after being denied his preferred position at five-eighth. Picture: Getty Images.

Josh Schuster has become the face of the divide, after being denied his preferred position at five-eighth. Picture: Getty Images.
Sources said they viewed Foran as a handbrake to Schuster’s development. The alternative view was that Schuster needed to take some responsibility for his own actions.
He has struggled at times with his weight and fitness, although sources close to the talented youngster insist that can partly be explained by the indecisiveness over his future. He believed he had to put on weight to play in the back row.
The concern for Manly is that Schuster is believed to be considering his future at the club - it is understood he was weighing up asking for a release as he grew frustrated with his treatment.
GONE TO THE DOGS
Mestrov faces a delicate balancing act.
The no-nonsense front-rower played plenty of first grade alongside Hasler at Manly during the 1990s, and also lined up alongside Scott Fulton.
He was thrust into the chief executive’s role just a week after the pride jersey debacle.
Now he is tasked with trying to repair a fractured club.
Mestrov is no shrinking violet. He locked horns with ARL Commission chair and Racing NSW chief executive Peter V’landys at times in his previous guise as boss of Greyhounds NSW.
He has been in rugby league administration before as chief operating officer at the Gold Coast, where he was right hand man to the club’s former chief executive Graham Annesley.
He beat a hot field to the role - the club’s former commercial officer Luke Tucker and NRL head of integrity Jason King, who also played in the front row for Manly, were also in the final three.
Manly chief executive Tony Mestrov faces a massive challenge trying to heal the fractured Sea Eagles. Picture: Justin Lloyd.

Manly chief executive Tony Mestrov faces a massive challenge trying to heal the fractured Sea Eagles. Picture: Justin Lloyd.
It was a rigorous process that involved individual meetings with each member of the board. Mestrov then had further meetings with Penn and fellow owner Gary Wolman.
Mestrov told them that he had no factional alignment; his only loyalty was to the club.
He has been given clear instructions by the owners – do what it takes to win the club’s first premiership since 2011.
“That is his mandate,” Penn said.
“He is here to help us win premierships again. That is the bottom line. So we have to do whatever it takes to do that.
“We just have to sort it out. We know what we have to do. I don’t walk away from the fact we have some challenges we need to address and we are addressing them.
“We are aware, we are dealing with them and we have to find a solution.”
HASLER’S CONTRACT
The Penns are aware that there are people outside the Sea Eagles who have it in for Hasler. The two-time premiership winner will pass Bob Fulton as the longest-serving Sea Eagles coach in round three next season – as long as he survives the off season.
Hasler’s contract was loaded with performance clauses. A top-six finish this season would have triggered another year in 2024 but now he is off-contact at the end of next season.
Hasler’s camp have been pushing for an extension but Manly’s board have stood their ground. They want to see results before they contemplate extending his deal.
The club is also believed to be concerned by the lack of a succession plan.
Des Hasler will pass Bob Fulton as Manly’s longest serving coach if he survives the off-season. Picture: Getty Images.

Des Hasler will pass Bob Fulton as Manly’s longest serving coach if he survives the off-season. Picture: Getty Images.
News Corp understands that the Sea Eagles would consider a handful of coaches if they elect to part ways with Hasler, either now or at the end of next season.
The list is headed by Queensland coach Billy Slater, Sydney Roosters assistant Jason Ryles and former Cronulla coach Shane Flanagan.
North Queensland assistant Dean Young is also likely to be on the list, although he has been earmarked as a potential Anthony Griffin replacement at the Dragons in 2024.
If Hasler agrees to the changes the club want to his coaching and support staff then he will be given a chance to start next season.
“We are still backing him,” Penn said.
“There are other people out there who have guns out for him. That is not internally. That is external - there are people out there who have it in for him.
“What we have to do is work together as a group to make sure that we hit the ground running in ‘23. This isn’t a witch-hunt.
 
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Wondering if the Trbojevics and DCE might think that their hefty salaries are the reason why they don't have decent support players around them. Turbo should be more concerned about his health and fitness to play at the top level. He cannot afford any more seasons playing only a handful of games.
 

Source Daily Telegraph

NRL 2022: Manly Sea Eagles’ factional divide tearing club apart​


Manly is facing one of the most crucial weeks in Sea Eagles’ history as senior officials attempt to unite a club that is being ripped apart by factional bickering and disagreements over the club’s strategic direction.
Sea Eagles chair Scott Penn and new chief executive Tony Mestrov are aware of the fractures, which centre around coach Des Hasler and members of the famous Fulton family, whose father Bob was a club icon and one of the most influential people in the code’s history.
Penn said he was also aware that there were parties outside the club “gunning for Hasler”, who has one year left on his deal.
The turmoil created by the pride jersey fiasco has exposed cracks throughout the Sea Eagles, leaving Mestrov with the complex task of uniting the club.

A News Corp investigation has uncovered the depth of issues, including:
*Some members of the Fulton family harbour concerns with Hasler’s strategic direction and use of emerging stars.
*A list of coaching candidates featuring names such as Billy Slater and Shane Flanagan is being drawn up in case Hasler leaves.
*The Trbojevic brothers are deeply troubled by the infighting and could consider walking out on the club.


*A divide in the player ranks has led to a push to replace captain Daly Cherry-Evans with Jake Trbojevic.
*Rising star Josh Schuster has become central to the tug of war over the club’s direction, with the man touted as a future captain having considered asking for a release.
Factional infighting is threatening to tear the Sea Eagles apart

Factional infighting is threatening to tear the Sea Eagles apart
FULTON-HASLER FAULT LINE
Scott Fulton, as a key figure in club recruitment, has been responsible for mining the Western Sydney nursery that has produced the likes of Schuster, Haumole Olakau’atu and Tolutau Koula.
But the club is in the midst of scrapping Blacktown as a direct feeder club and moving their NSW Cup side back under the Manly umbrella.
Scott’s sister Kristie is the club’s pathways manager while Brett Fulton is the pathway academy coach. Their DNA runs through Manly and the Fulton family count the likes of former media manager Peter Peters and radio icon Ray Hadley among their allies.
Frustrations between the factions at Manly were highlighted after a senior player was given a dressing down after the player was highly critical of teammates who stood down during the pride jersey crisis in July, allegedly by a member of the Fulton family.
Mestrov has a clear mandate to make changes. Hasler still has strong support in some parts of the club, where the likes of Noel Cleal and Don Singe stand in his corner.
He also enjoys the backing of the Trbojevic brothers, while Cherry-Evans has publicly supported the coach. Other players want emerging coach Steve Hales to have more power.
It is understood the Fultons haven’t always agreed with Hasler’s plans in recent times, apparently having become frustrated by the use of players that have been scouted under their watch.
The Sea Eagles risk losing the Trbojevic brothers if things don’t improve. Picture: NRL Photos.

The Sea Eagles risk losing the Trbojevic brothers if things don’t improve. Picture: NRL Photos.
TRBOJEVIC TROUBLE
The Trbojevic brothers are the two most powerful figures at the club but they are known to be frustrated with the state of the Sea Eagles.
If things don’t change they could consider their futures at Manly, which would have devastating consequences.
The brothers are tied to long-term deals that make them among the highest earners in the game. Above all else, they love winning and love the Sea Eagles.
They have lived their entire lives on Sydney’s northern beaches and spurned the opportunity to leave in the past.
But sources close to the club confirmed the pair were at their wit’s end given how this season has unfolded, both on and off the field.
They also fear next season won’t be significantly better given Manly’s inability to dip into the player market, with Wests Tigers back-rower Kelma Tuilagi the only signing for 2023.
They are said to be tired of the lack of unity and coherent direction, which has become a way of life at Manly.
There is a concern among some senior figures in the playing ranks that some within the club are more interested in pushing their own cause, rather than working together to ensure the club can contend for premierships.
The Trbojevics have made it known that they have concerns with some of the personnel decisions that have been made this season.
The Trbojevic brothers are unhappy with the departure of Kieran Foran. Picture: Getty Images.

The Trbojevic brothers are unhappy with the departure of Kieran Foran. Picture: Getty Images.
Both are close to Kieran Foran and made no secret of their desire to see him retained. Instead, Foran will join the Gold Coast next season and the Sea Eagles have since used their salary cap to extend the contracts of Saab and Josh Aloiai, as well as Cherry-Evans.
Some at Manly think Jake Trbojevic should be the captain of the side, if not on his own then in tandem with Cherry-Evans.
While there have been rumours in recent months that the brothers and Cherry-Evans are at odds, News Corp has been told that is incorrect.
They are different personalities and aren’t particularly close off the field, but they respect each other and have a working relationship.
“I am certainly aware that (the Trbojevics) are winners and they want to win,” said Penn, who has flown back from the US to help deal with the club’s issues.
“What we have to do is put the structure in place that is going to give them the best opportunity to win premierships and that is what we want.
“We are all aligned on what outcome we want and what our expectations are. That is a perfectly reasonable expectation of theirs and that matches our expectation.
“If we can’t deliver that then we have to find out who can. It is up to us to find a solution.”
Some figures within the club want to see Jake Trbojevic takeover as skipper from Daly Cherry-Evans.

Some figures within the club want to see Jake Trbojevic takeover as skipper from Daly Cherry-Evans.
PLAYER UNREST
Vision has emerged of a frustrated Marty Taupau sharing a video on his own social media account following the club’s recent loss to the Sharks.
The damning footage appears to show a frustrated Taupau being cut-out of the play on purpose by his teammates in attack.
He throws his hands in the air after repeatedly being used as a decoy.
Taupau played his last game for Manly in the loss to Canterbury on Friday night, having been told that the club did not have the salary cap room to keep him.
Manly officials insist the group is still united but results and performances would suggest otherwise.
It is understood that some players are concerned that others are receiving preferential treatment and not taking accountability for their own performances.
A senior player tried to shift the blame of a poor defensive read which led to a try to junior player in a recent video session. That was met with eye roles from his teammates who have now become accustomed to this.

It is easy to blame the recent pride jersey fiasco, when Aloiai, Saab, Olakau’atu, Schuster, Koula, Christian Tuipulotu, and Toafofoa Sipley boycotted the must-win round 20 match against the Sydney Roosters.
“There has been a bit of friction and it all came to a head with the inclusive jersey,” Penn said.
“That wasn’t the sole reason. I think the reality is that there has been a lot of soul searching since but then we have lost a lot of other players.
“We had a number of injuries and just haven’t played well the last seven or eight weeks. Yes, we certainly have had a disappointing end of the season and yes, we need to make some changes.
“But there doesn’t need to be wholesale changes. The board has been incredibly stable for the last five or six years. There are no issues at all.
“There is no issue at management level because Tony is in and we have a new CFO and a new chief commercial person about to come on board. Management is incredibly stable.
“The centre of excellence is great, we are all in the one place, we have a lot of kids coming through the system, we have seven or eight players who debuted this year.
“At least we are blooding the young players. We have to make sure we have the systems in apace to support them.”
The Sea Eagles’ pride jersey was a key turning point for their season, after seven players stood down from the must-win Round 20 game. Picture: Getty Images.

The Sea Eagles’ pride jersey was a key turning point for their season, after seven players stood down from the must-win Round 20 game. Picture: Getty Images.
THE SCHUSTER DILEMMA
Schuster has become the face of the divide.
The 21-year-old has made no secret in private of his desire to play five-eighth but his path has been blocked by one of Hasler’s strongest supporters in Foran.
Hasler saw the 32-year-old Foran as his best chance to win now and give himself some job security - he has clauses in his contract that extended his deal depending on whether he finished in the top eight and top six.
The Fultons believe they are working towards long-term and sustained success, and want to deliver on Bob’s promise that Schuster will one day captain the Sea Eagles.
Hasler’s stance caused angst within the club. Foran has never been a favourite of the Fulton family after he signed with Parramatta in 2015, souring his relationship with Bob.
Josh Schuster has become the face of the divide, after being denied his preferred position at five-eighth. Picture: Getty Images.

Josh Schuster has become the face of the divide, after being denied his preferred position at five-eighth. Picture: Getty Images.
Sources said they viewed Foran as a handbrake to Schuster’s development. The alternative view was that Schuster needed to take some responsibility for his own actions.
He has struggled at times with his weight and fitness, although sources close to the talented youngster insist that can partly be explained by the indecisiveness over his future. He believed he had to put on weight to play in the back row.
The concern for Manly is that Schuster is believed to be considering his future at the club - it is understood he was weighing up asking for a release as he grew frustrated with his treatment.
GONE TO THE DOGS
Mestrov faces a delicate balancing act.
The no-nonsense front-rower played plenty of first grade alongside Hasler at Manly during the 1990s, and also lined up alongside Scott Fulton.
He was thrust into the chief executive’s role just a week after the pride jersey debacle.
Now he is tasked with trying to repair a fractured club.
Mestrov is no shrinking violet. He locked horns with ARL Commission chair and Racing NSW chief executive Peter V’landys at times in his previous guise as boss of Greyhounds NSW.
He has been in rugby league administration before as chief operating officer at the Gold Coast, where he was right hand man to the club’s former chief executive Graham Annesley.
He beat a hot field to the role - the club’s former commercial officer Luke Tucker and NRL head of integrity Jason King, who also played in the front row for Manly, were also in the final three.
Manly chief executive Tony Mestrov faces a massive challenge trying to heal the fractured Sea Eagles. Picture: Justin Lloyd.

Manly chief executive Tony Mestrov faces a massive challenge trying to heal the fractured Sea Eagles. Picture: Justin Lloyd.
It was a rigorous process that involved individual meetings with each member of the board. Mestrov then had further meetings with Penn and fellow owner Gary Wolman.
Mestrov told them that he had no factional alignment; his only loyalty was to the club.
He has been given clear instructions by the owners – do what it takes to win the club’s first premiership since 2011.
“That is his mandate,” Penn said.
“He is here to help us win premierships again. That is the bottom line. So we have to do whatever it takes to do that.
“We just have to sort it out. We know what we have to do. I don’t walk away from the fact we have some challenges we need to address and we are addressing them.
“We are aware, we are dealing with them and we have to find a solution.”
HASLER’S CONTRACT
The Penns are aware that there are people outside the Sea Eagles who have it in for Hasler. The two-time premiership winner will pass Bob Fulton as the longest-serving Sea Eagles coach in round three next season – as long as he survives the off season.
Hasler’s contract was loaded with performance clauses. A top-six finish this season would have triggered another year in 2024 but now he is off-contact at the end of next season.
Hasler’s camp have been pushing for an extension but Manly’s board have stood their ground. They want to see results before they contemplate extending his deal.
The club is also believed to be concerned by the lack of a succession plan.
Des Hasler will pass Bob Fulton as Manly’s longest serving coach if he survives the off-season. Picture: Getty Images.

Des Hasler will pass Bob Fulton as Manly’s longest serving coach if he survives the off-season. Picture: Getty Images.
News Corp understands that the Sea Eagles would consider a handful of coaches if they elect to part ways with Hasler, either now or at the end of next season.
The list is headed by Queensland coach Billy Slater, Sydney Roosters assistant Jason Ryles and former Cronulla coach Shane Flanagan.
North Queensland assistant Dean Young is also likely to be on the list, although he has been earmarked as a potential Anthony Griffin replacement at the Dragons in 2024.
If Hasler agrees to the changes the club want to his coaching and support staff then he will be given a chance to start next season.
“We are still backing him,” Penn said.
“There are other people out there who have guns out for him. That is not internally. That is external - there are people out there who have it in for him.
“What we have to do is work together as a group to make sure that we hit the ground running in ‘23. This isn’t a witch-hunt.
Wow talk about a mess
Agendas everywhere
This is political mess where everyone is trying to save there own face.
We are in more trouble than I realise.
 
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Source Daily Telegraph

NRL 2022: Manly Sea Eagles’ factional divide tearing club apart​


Manly is facing one of the most crucial weeks in Sea Eagles’ history as senior officials attempt to unite a club that is being ripped apart by factional bickering and disagreements over the club’s strategic direction.
Sea Eagles chair Scott Penn and new chief executive Tony Mestrov are aware of the fractures, which centre around coach Des Hasler and members of the famous Fulton family, whose father Bob was a club icon and one of the most influential people in the code’s history.
Penn said he was also aware that there were parties outside the club “gunning for Hasler”, who has one year left on his deal.
The turmoil created by the pride jersey fiasco has exposed cracks throughout the Sea Eagles, leaving Mestrov with the complex task of uniting the club.

A News Corp investigation has uncovered the depth of issues, including:
*Some members of the Fulton family harbour concerns with Hasler’s strategic direction and use of emerging stars.
*A list of coaching candidates featuring names such as Billy Slater and Shane Flanagan is being drawn up in case Hasler leaves.
*The Trbojevic brothers are deeply troubled by the infighting and could consider walking out on the club.


*A divide in the player ranks has led to a push to replace captain Daly Cherry-Evans with Jake Trbojevic.
*Rising star Josh Schuster has become central to the tug of war over the club’s direction, with the man touted as a future captain having considered asking for a release.
Factional infighting is threatening to tear the Sea Eagles apart

Factional infighting is threatening to tear the Sea Eagles apart
FULTON-HASLER FAULT LINE
Scott Fulton, as a key figure in club recruitment, has been responsible for mining the Western Sydney nursery that has produced the likes of Schuster, Haumole Olakau’atu and Tolutau Koula.
But the club is in the midst of scrapping Blacktown as a direct feeder club and moving their NSW Cup side back under the Manly umbrella.
Scott’s sister Kristie is the club’s pathways manager while Brett Fulton is the pathway academy coach. Their DNA runs through Manly and the Fulton family count the likes of former media manager Peter Peters and radio icon Ray Hadley among their allies.
Frustrations between the factions at Manly were highlighted after a senior player was given a dressing down after the player was highly critical of teammates who stood down during the pride jersey crisis in July, allegedly by a member of the Fulton family.
Mestrov has a clear mandate to make changes. Hasler still has strong support in some parts of the club, where the likes of Noel Cleal and Don Singe stand in his corner.
He also enjoys the backing of the Trbojevic brothers, while Cherry-Evans has publicly supported the coach. Other players want emerging coach Steve Hales to have more power.
It is understood the Fultons haven’t always agreed with Hasler’s plans in recent times, apparently having become frustrated by the use of players that have been scouted under their watch.
The Sea Eagles risk losing the Trbojevic brothers if things don’t improve. Picture: NRL Photos.

The Sea Eagles risk losing the Trbojevic brothers if things don’t improve. Picture: NRL Photos.
TRBOJEVIC TROUBLE
The Trbojevic brothers are the two most powerful figures at the club but they are known to be frustrated with the state of the Sea Eagles.
If things don’t change they could consider their futures at Manly, which would have devastating consequences.
The brothers are tied to long-term deals that make them among the highest earners in the game. Above all else, they love winning and love the Sea Eagles.
They have lived their entire lives on Sydney’s northern beaches and spurned the opportunity to leave in the past.
But sources close to the club confirmed the pair were at their wit’s end given how this season has unfolded, both on and off the field.
They also fear next season won’t be significantly better given Manly’s inability to dip into the player market, with Wests Tigers back-rower Kelma Tuilagi the only signing for 2023.
They are said to be tired of the lack of unity and coherent direction, which has become a way of life at Manly.
There is a concern among some senior figures in the playing ranks that some within the club are more interested in pushing their own cause, rather than working together to ensure the club can contend for premierships.
The Trbojevics have made it known that they have concerns with some of the personnel decisions that have been made this season.
The Trbojevic brothers are unhappy with the departure of Kieran Foran. Picture: Getty Images.

The Trbojevic brothers are unhappy with the departure of Kieran Foran. Picture: Getty Images.
Both are close to Kieran Foran and made no secret of their desire to see him retained. Instead, Foran will join the Gold Coast next season and the Sea Eagles have since used their salary cap to extend the contracts of Saab and Josh Aloiai, as well as Cherry-Evans.
Some at Manly think Jake Trbojevic should be the captain of the side, if not on his own then in tandem with Cherry-Evans.
While there have been rumours in recent months that the brothers and Cherry-Evans are at odds, News Corp has been told that is incorrect.
They are different personalities and aren’t particularly close off the field, but they respect each other and have a working relationship.
“I am certainly aware that (the Trbojevics) are winners and they want to win,” said Penn, who has flown back from the US to help deal with the club’s issues.
“What we have to do is put the structure in place that is going to give them the best opportunity to win premierships and that is what we want.
“We are all aligned on what outcome we want and what our expectations are. That is a perfectly reasonable expectation of theirs and that matches our expectation.
“If we can’t deliver that then we have to find out who can. It is up to us to find a solution.”
Some figures within the club want to see Jake Trbojevic takeover as skipper from Daly Cherry-Evans.

Some figures within the club want to see Jake Trbojevic takeover as skipper from Daly Cherry-Evans.
PLAYER UNREST
Vision has emerged of a frustrated Marty Taupau sharing a video on his own social media account following the club’s recent loss to the Sharks.
The damning footage appears to show a frustrated Taupau being cut-out of the play on purpose by his teammates in attack.
He throws his hands in the air after repeatedly being used as a decoy.
Taupau played his last game for Manly in the loss to Canterbury on Friday night, having been told that the club did not have the salary cap room to keep him.
Manly officials insist the group is still united but results and performances would suggest otherwise.
It is understood that some players are concerned that others are receiving preferential treatment and not taking accountability for their own performances.
A senior player tried to shift the blame of a poor defensive read which led to a try to junior player in a recent video session. That was met with eye roles from his teammates who have now become accustomed to this.

It is easy to blame the recent pride jersey fiasco, when Aloiai, Saab, Olakau’atu, Schuster, Koula, Christian Tuipulotu, and Toafofoa Sipley boycotted the must-win round 20 match against the Sydney Roosters.
“There has been a bit of friction and it all came to a head with the inclusive jersey,” Penn said.
“That wasn’t the sole reason. I think the reality is that there has been a lot of soul searching since but then we have lost a lot of other players.
“We had a number of injuries and just haven’t played well the last seven or eight weeks. Yes, we certainly have had a disappointing end of the season and yes, we need to make some changes.
“But there doesn’t need to be wholesale changes. The board has been incredibly stable for the last five or six years. There are no issues at all.
“There is no issue at management level because Tony is in and we have a new CFO and a new chief commercial person about to come on board. Management is incredibly stable.
“The centre of excellence is great, we are all in the one place, we have a lot of kids coming through the system, we have seven or eight players who debuted this year.
“At least we are blooding the young players. We have to make sure we have the systems in apace to support them.”
The Sea Eagles’ pride jersey was a key turning point for their season, after seven players stood down from the must-win Round 20 game. Picture: Getty Images.

The Sea Eagles’ pride jersey was a key turning point for their season, after seven players stood down from the must-win Round 20 game. Picture: Getty Images.
THE SCHUSTER DILEMMA
Schuster has become the face of the divide.
The 21-year-old has made no secret in private of his desire to play five-eighth but his path has been blocked by one of Hasler’s strongest supporters in Foran.
Hasler saw the 32-year-old Foran as his best chance to win now and give himself some job security - he has clauses in his contract that extended his deal depending on whether he finished in the top eight and top six.
The Fultons believe they are working towards long-term and sustained success, and want to deliver on Bob’s promise that Schuster will one day captain the Sea Eagles.
Hasler’s stance caused angst within the club. Foran has never been a favourite of the Fulton family after he signed with Parramatta in 2015, souring his relationship with Bob.
Josh Schuster has become the face of the divide, after being denied his preferred position at five-eighth. Picture: Getty Images.

Josh Schuster has become the face of the divide, after being denied his preferred position at five-eighth. Picture: Getty Images.
Sources said they viewed Foran as a handbrake to Schuster’s development. The alternative view was that Schuster needed to take some responsibility for his own actions.
He has struggled at times with his weight and fitness, although sources close to the talented youngster insist that can partly be explained by the indecisiveness over his future. He believed he had to put on weight to play in the back row.
The concern for Manly is that Schuster is believed to be considering his future at the club - it is understood he was weighing up asking for a release as he grew frustrated with his treatment.
GONE TO THE DOGS
Mestrov faces a delicate balancing act.
The no-nonsense front-rower played plenty of first grade alongside Hasler at Manly during the 1990s, and also lined up alongside Scott Fulton.
He was thrust into the chief executive’s role just a week after the pride jersey debacle.
Now he is tasked with trying to repair a fractured club.
Mestrov is no shrinking violet. He locked horns with ARL Commission chair and Racing NSW chief executive Peter V’landys at times in his previous guise as boss of Greyhounds NSW.
He has been in rugby league administration before as chief operating officer at the Gold Coast, where he was right hand man to the club’s former chief executive Graham Annesley.
He beat a hot field to the role - the club’s former commercial officer Luke Tucker and NRL head of integrity Jason King, who also played in the front row for Manly, were also in the final three.
Manly chief executive Tony Mestrov faces a massive challenge trying to heal the fractured Sea Eagles. Picture: Justin Lloyd.

Manly chief executive Tony Mestrov faces a massive challenge trying to heal the fractured Sea Eagles. Picture: Justin Lloyd.
It was a rigorous process that involved individual meetings with each member of the board. Mestrov then had further meetings with Penn and fellow owner Gary Wolman.
Mestrov told them that he had no factional alignment; his only loyalty was to the club.
He has been given clear instructions by the owners – do what it takes to win the club’s first premiership since 2011.
“That is his mandate,” Penn said.
“He is here to help us win premierships again. That is the bottom line. So we have to do whatever it takes to do that.
“We just have to sort it out. We know what we have to do. I don’t walk away from the fact we have some challenges we need to address and we are addressing them.
“We are aware, we are dealing with them and we have to find a solution.”
HASLER’S CONTRACT
The Penns are aware that there are people outside the Sea Eagles who have it in for Hasler. The two-time premiership winner will pass Bob Fulton as the longest-serving Sea Eagles coach in round three next season – as long as he survives the off season.
Hasler’s contract was loaded with performance clauses. A top-six finish this season would have triggered another year in 2024 but now he is off-contact at the end of next season.
Hasler’s camp have been pushing for an extension but Manly’s board have stood their ground. They want to see results before they contemplate extending his deal.
The club is also believed to be concerned by the lack of a succession plan.
Des Hasler will pass Bob Fulton as Manly’s longest serving coach if he survives the off-season. Picture: Getty Images.

Des Hasler will pass Bob Fulton as Manly’s longest serving coach if he survives the off-season. Picture: Getty Images.
News Corp understands that the Sea Eagles would consider a handful of coaches if they elect to part ways with Hasler, either now or at the end of next season.
The list is headed by Queensland coach Billy Slater, Sydney Roosters assistant Jason Ryles and former Cronulla coach Shane Flanagan.
North Queensland assistant Dean Young is also likely to be on the list, although he has been earmarked as a potential Anthony Griffin replacement at the Dragons in 2024.
If Hasler agrees to the changes the club want to his coaching and support staff then he will be given a chance to start next season.
“We are still backing him,” Penn said.
“There are other people out there who have guns out for him. That is not internally. That is external - there are people out there who have it in for him.
“What we have to do is work together as a group to make sure that we hit the ground running in ‘23. This isn’t a witch-hunt.
Hmmm a senior team member given a dressing down. I wonder if that was Garrick. He was very supportive of the jersey at the time. Seemed to struggle afterwards (just injured?) and now rumours re joining Knights. Maybe its not just about the salary he's on at manly.
 

Source Daily Telegraph

NRL 2022: Manly Sea Eagles’ factional divide tearing club apart​


Manly is facing one of the most crucial weeks in Sea Eagles’ history as senior officials attempt to unite a club that is being ripped apart by factional bickering and disagreements over the club’s strategic direction.
Sea Eagles chair Scott Penn and new chief executive Tony Mestrov are aware of the fractures, which centre around coach Des Hasler and members of the famous Fulton family, whose father Bob was a club icon and one of the most influential people in the code’s history.
Penn said he was also aware that there were parties outside the club “gunning for Hasler”, who has one year left on his deal.
The turmoil created by the pride jersey fiasco has exposed cracks throughout the Sea Eagles, leaving Mestrov with the complex task of uniting the club.

A News Corp investigation has uncovered the depth of issues, including:
*Some members of the Fulton family harbour concerns with Hasler’s strategic direction and use of emerging stars.
*A list of coaching candidates featuring names such as Billy Slater and Shane Flanagan is being drawn up in case Hasler leaves.
*The Trbojevic brothers are deeply troubled by the infighting and could consider walking out on the club.


*A divide in the player ranks has led to a push to replace captain Daly Cherry-Evans with Jake Trbojevic.
*Rising star Josh Schuster has become central to the tug of war over the club’s direction, with the man touted as a future captain having considered asking for a release.
Factional infighting is threatening to tear the Sea Eagles apart

Factional infighting is threatening to tear the Sea Eagles apart
FULTON-HASLER FAULT LINE
Scott Fulton, as a key figure in club recruitment, has been responsible for mining the Western Sydney nursery that has produced the likes of Schuster, Haumole Olakau’atu and Tolutau Koula.
But the club is in the midst of scrapping Blacktown as a direct feeder club and moving their NSW Cup side back under the Manly umbrella.
Scott’s sister Kristie is the club’s pathways manager while Brett Fulton is the pathway academy coach. Their DNA runs through Manly and the Fulton family count the likes of former media manager Peter Peters and radio icon Ray Hadley among their allies.
Frustrations between the factions at Manly were highlighted after a senior player was given a dressing down after the player was highly critical of teammates who stood down during the pride jersey crisis in July, allegedly by a member of the Fulton family.
Mestrov has a clear mandate to make changes. Hasler still has strong support in some parts of the club, where the likes of Noel Cleal and Don Singe stand in his corner.
He also enjoys the backing of the Trbojevic brothers, while Cherry-Evans has publicly supported the coach. Other players want emerging coach Steve Hales to have more power.
It is understood the Fultons haven’t always agreed with Hasler’s plans in recent times, apparently having become frustrated by the use of players that have been scouted under their watch.
The Sea Eagles risk losing the Trbojevic brothers if things don’t improve. Picture: NRL Photos.

The Sea Eagles risk losing the Trbojevic brothers if things don’t improve. Picture: NRL Photos.
TRBOJEVIC TROUBLE
The Trbojevic brothers are the two most powerful figures at the club but they are known to be frustrated with the state of the Sea Eagles.
If things don’t change they could consider their futures at Manly, which would have devastating consequences.
The brothers are tied to long-term deals that make them among the highest earners in the game. Above all else, they love winning and love the Sea Eagles.
They have lived their entire lives on Sydney’s northern beaches and spurned the opportunity to leave in the past.
But sources close to the club confirmed the pair were at their wit’s end given how this season has unfolded, both on and off the field.
They also fear next season won’t be significantly better given Manly’s inability to dip into the player market, with Wests Tigers back-rower Kelma Tuilagi the only signing for 2023.
They are said to be tired of the lack of unity and coherent direction, which has become a way of life at Manly.
There is a concern among some senior figures in the playing ranks that some within the club are more interested in pushing their own cause, rather than working together to ensure the club can contend for premierships.
The Trbojevics have made it known that they have concerns with some of the personnel decisions that have been made this season.
The Trbojevic brothers are unhappy with the departure of Kieran Foran. Picture: Getty Images.

The Trbojevic brothers are unhappy with the departure of Kieran Foran. Picture: Getty Images.
Both are close to Kieran Foran and made no secret of their desire to see him retained. Instead, Foran will join the Gold Coast next season and the Sea Eagles have since used their salary cap to extend the contracts of Saab and Josh Aloiai, as well as Cherry-Evans.
Some at Manly think Jake Trbojevic should be the captain of the side, if not on his own then in tandem with Cherry-Evans.
While there have been rumours in recent months that the brothers and Cherry-Evans are at odds, News Corp has been told that is incorrect.
They are different personalities and aren’t particularly close off the field, but they respect each other and have a working relationship.
“I am certainly aware that (the Trbojevics) are winners and they want to win,” said Penn, who has flown back from the US to help deal with the club’s issues.
“What we have to do is put the structure in place that is going to give them the best opportunity to win premierships and that is what we want.
“We are all aligned on what outcome we want and what our expectations are. That is a perfectly reasonable expectation of theirs and that matches our expectation.
“If we can’t deliver that then we have to find out who can. It is up to us to find a solution.”
Some figures within the club want to see Jake Trbojevic takeover as skipper from Daly Cherry-Evans.

Some figures within the club want to see Jake Trbojevic takeover as skipper from Daly Cherry-Evans.
PLAYER UNREST
Vision has emerged of a frustrated Marty Taupau sharing a video on his own social media account following the club’s recent loss to the Sharks.
The damning footage appears to show a frustrated Taupau being cut-out of the play on purpose by his teammates in attack.
He throws his hands in the air after repeatedly being used as a decoy.
Taupau played his last game for Manly in the loss to Canterbury on Friday night, having been told that the club did not have the salary cap room to keep him.
Manly officials insist the group is still united but results and performances would suggest otherwise.
It is understood that some players are concerned that others are receiving preferential treatment and not taking accountability for their own performances.
A senior player tried to shift the blame of a poor defensive read which led to a try to junior player in a recent video session. That was met with eye roles from his teammates who have now become accustomed to this.

It is easy to blame the recent pride jersey fiasco, when Aloiai, Saab, Olakau’atu, Schuster, Koula, Christian Tuipulotu, and Toafofoa Sipley boycotted the must-win round 20 match against the Sydney Roosters.
“There has been a bit of friction and it all came to a head with the inclusive jersey,” Penn said.
“That wasn’t the sole reason. I think the reality is that there has been a lot of soul searching since but then we have lost a lot of other players.
“We had a number of injuries and just haven’t played well the last seven or eight weeks. Yes, we certainly have had a disappointing end of the season and yes, we need to make some changes.
“But there doesn’t need to be wholesale changes. The board has been incredibly stable for the last five or six years. There are no issues at all.
“There is no issue at management level because Tony is in and we have a new CFO and a new chief commercial person about to come on board. Management is incredibly stable.
“The centre of excellence is great, we are all in the one place, we have a lot of kids coming through the system, we have seven or eight players who debuted this year.
“At least we are blooding the young players. We have to make sure we have the systems in apace to support them.”
The Sea Eagles’ pride jersey was a key turning point for their season, after seven players stood down from the must-win Round 20 game. Picture: Getty Images.

The Sea Eagles’ pride jersey was a key turning point for their season, after seven players stood down from the must-win Round 20 game. Picture: Getty Images.
THE SCHUSTER DILEMMA
Schuster has become the face of the divide.
The 21-year-old has made no secret in private of his desire to play five-eighth but his path has been blocked by one of Hasler’s strongest supporters in Foran.
Hasler saw the 32-year-old Foran as his best chance to win now and give himself some job security - he has clauses in his contract that extended his deal depending on whether he finished in the top eight and top six.
The Fultons believe they are working towards long-term and sustained success, and want to deliver on Bob’s promise that Schuster will one day captain the Sea Eagles.
Hasler’s stance caused angst within the club. Foran has never been a favourite of the Fulton family after he signed with Parramatta in 2015, souring his relationship with Bob.
Josh Schuster has become the face of the divide, after being denied his preferred position at five-eighth. Picture: Getty Images.

Josh Schuster has become the face of the divide, after being denied his preferred position at five-eighth. Picture: Getty Images.
Sources said they viewed Foran as a handbrake to Schuster’s development. The alternative view was that Schuster needed to take some responsibility for his own actions.
He has struggled at times with his weight and fitness, although sources close to the talented youngster insist that can partly be explained by the indecisiveness over his future. He believed he had to put on weight to play in the back row.
The concern for Manly is that Schuster is believed to be considering his future at the club - it is understood he was weighing up asking for a release as he grew frustrated with his treatment.
GONE TO THE DOGS
Mestrov faces a delicate balancing act.
The no-nonsense front-rower played plenty of first grade alongside Hasler at Manly during the 1990s, and also lined up alongside Scott Fulton.
He was thrust into the chief executive’s role just a week after the pride jersey debacle.
Now he is tasked with trying to repair a fractured club.
Mestrov is no shrinking violet. He locked horns with ARL Commission chair and Racing NSW chief executive Peter V’landys at times in his previous guise as boss of Greyhounds NSW.
He has been in rugby league administration before as chief operating officer at the Gold Coast, where he was right hand man to the club’s former chief executive Graham Annesley.
He beat a hot field to the role - the club’s former commercial officer Luke Tucker and NRL head of integrity Jason King, who also played in the front row for Manly, were also in the final three.
Manly chief executive Tony Mestrov faces a massive challenge trying to heal the fractured Sea Eagles. Picture: Justin Lloyd.

Manly chief executive Tony Mestrov faces a massive challenge trying to heal the fractured Sea Eagles. Picture: Justin Lloyd.
It was a rigorous process that involved individual meetings with each member of the board. Mestrov then had further meetings with Penn and fellow owner Gary Wolman.
Mestrov told them that he had no factional alignment; his only loyalty was to the club.
He has been given clear instructions by the owners – do what it takes to win the club’s first premiership since 2011.
“That is his mandate,” Penn said.
“He is here to help us win premierships again. That is the bottom line. So we have to do whatever it takes to do that.
“We just have to sort it out. We know what we have to do. I don’t walk away from the fact we have some challenges we need to address and we are addressing them.
“We are aware, we are dealing with them and we have to find a solution.”
HASLER’S CONTRACT
The Penns are aware that there are people outside the Sea Eagles who have it in for Hasler. The two-time premiership winner will pass Bob Fulton as the longest-serving Sea Eagles coach in round three next season – as long as he survives the off season.
Hasler’s contract was loaded with performance clauses. A top-six finish this season would have triggered another year in 2024 but now he is off-contact at the end of next season.
Hasler’s camp have been pushing for an extension but Manly’s board have stood their ground. They want to see results before they contemplate extending his deal.
The club is also believed to be concerned by the lack of a succession plan.
Des Hasler will pass Bob Fulton as Manly’s longest serving coach if he survives the off-season. Picture: Getty Images.

Des Hasler will pass Bob Fulton as Manly’s longest serving coach if he survives the off-season. Picture: Getty Images.
News Corp understands that the Sea Eagles would consider a handful of coaches if they elect to part ways with Hasler, either now or at the end of next season.
The list is headed by Queensland coach Billy Slater, Sydney Roosters assistant Jason Ryles and former Cronulla coach Shane Flanagan.
North Queensland assistant Dean Young is also likely to be on the list, although he has been earmarked as a potential Anthony Griffin replacement at the Dragons in 2024.
If Hasler agrees to the changes the club want to his coaching and support staff then he will be given a chance to start next season.
“We are still backing him,” Penn said.
“There are other people out there who have guns out for him. That is not internally. That is external - there are people out there who have it in for him.
“What we have to do is work together as a group to make sure that we hit the ground running in ‘23. This isn’t a witch-hunt.
Hey also by the way thanks for posting the article much appreciated, now going to read it.
 
Well several of us on here have been saying that this club has factions and fractures and has had them for years but get shouted down time and again. Well I think this article pretty well lays it all bare. Now the question is will Mestrov have the gonads to get this fractured mess back on the same page. Imagine if Des, the Turbos and several others all walk. Wooden spoon floggings all year in 2023 if that happens.
 
Hasler is the only person working 100 hours a week for the club
I'm completely over the 100 hours a week thing.
More doesn't automatically mean better. Fatigue can set in, especially at 61, and thoughts become clouded.
People also benefit from getting away from their jobs and coming back with a fresh perspective.
And if Des is there 100 hours per week (I've no doubt this is true) surely he should spend a bit of that time talking to the front office, marketing etc, and then he would have known that jersey was coming. If he's so intent on micro managing, then micro bloody manage.
Finally, time does not equal quality. Give Buzz Rothfield 100 hours a week and he's still not going to write a single thing of quality.
 
How about Seibold replacing Des? Anyone?

We are soul searching after finishing 11th. I'm not sure that the solution is to replace Des with a coach who, last time he was head coach, won the wooden spoon.

That being said, one season is never the whole story. Tim Sheens won a spoon with the Cowboys in 2000 and later won a Premiership with the Tigers. Brad Arthur has a wooden spoon as head coach too. Both had more runs on the board as head coach before then though.
 

Source Daily Telegraph

NRL 2022: Manly Sea Eagles’ factional divide tearing club apart​


Manly is facing one of the most crucial weeks in Sea Eagles’ history as senior officials attempt to unite a club that is being ripped apart by factional bickering and disagreements over the club’s strategic direction.
Sea Eagles chair Scott Penn and new chief executive Tony Mestrov are aware of the fractures, which centre around coach Des Hasler and members of the famous Fulton family, whose father Bob was a club icon and one of the most influential people in the code’s history.
Penn said he was also aware that there were parties outside the club “gunning for Hasler”, who has one year left on his deal.
The turmoil created by the pride jersey fiasco has exposed cracks throughout the Sea Eagles, leaving Mestrov with the complex task of uniting the club.

A News Corp investigation has uncovered the depth of issues, including:
*Some members of the Fulton family harbour concerns with Hasler’s strategic direction and use of emerging stars.
*A list of coaching candidates featuring names such as Billy Slater and Shane Flanagan is being drawn up in case Hasler leaves.
*The Trbojevic brothers are deeply troubled by the infighting and could consider walking out on the club.


*A divide in the player ranks has led to a push to replace captain Daly Cherry-Evans with Jake Trbojevic.
*Rising star Josh Schuster has become central to the tug of war over the club’s direction, with the man touted as a future captain having considered asking for a release.
Factional infighting is threatening to tear the Sea Eagles apart

Factional infighting is threatening to tear the Sea Eagles apart
FULTON-HASLER FAULT LINE
Scott Fulton, as a key figure in club recruitment, has been responsible for mining the Western Sydney nursery that has produced the likes of Schuster, Haumole Olakau’atu and Tolutau Koula.
But the club is in the midst of scrapping Blacktown as a direct feeder club and moving their NSW Cup side back under the Manly umbrella.
Scott’s sister Kristie is the club’s pathways manager while Brett Fulton is the pathway academy coach. Their DNA runs through Manly and the Fulton family count the likes of former media manager Peter Peters and radio icon Ray Hadley among their allies.
Frustrations between the factions at Manly were highlighted after a senior player was given a dressing down after the player was highly critical of teammates who stood down during the pride jersey crisis in July, allegedly by a member of the Fulton family.
Mestrov has a clear mandate to make changes. Hasler still has strong support in some parts of the club, where the likes of Noel Cleal and Don Singe stand in his corner.
He also enjoys the backing of the Trbojevic brothers, while Cherry-Evans has publicly supported the coach. Other players want emerging coach Steve Hales to have more power.
It is understood the Fultons haven’t always agreed with Hasler’s plans in recent times, apparently having become frustrated by the use of players that have been scouted under their watch.
The Sea Eagles risk losing the Trbojevic brothers if things don’t improve. Picture: NRL Photos.

The Sea Eagles risk losing the Trbojevic brothers if things don’t improve. Picture: NRL Photos.
TRBOJEVIC TROUBLE
The Trbojevic brothers are the two most powerful figures at the club but they are known to be frustrated with the state of the Sea Eagles.
If things don’t change they could consider their futures at Manly, which would have devastating consequences.
The brothers are tied to long-term deals that make them among the highest earners in the game. Above all else, they love winning and love the Sea Eagles.
They have lived their entire lives on Sydney’s northern beaches and spurned the opportunity to leave in the past.
But sources close to the club confirmed the pair were at their wit’s end given how this season has unfolded, both on and off the field.
They also fear next season won’t be significantly better given Manly’s inability to dip into the player market, with Wests Tigers back-rower Kelma Tuilagi the only signing for 2023.
They are said to be tired of the lack of unity and coherent direction, which has become a way of life at Manly.
There is a concern among some senior figures in the playing ranks that some within the club are more interested in pushing their own cause, rather than working together to ensure the club can contend for premierships.
The Trbojevics have made it known that they have concerns with some of the personnel decisions that have been made this season.
The Trbojevic brothers are unhappy with the departure of Kieran Foran. Picture: Getty Images.

The Trbojevic brothers are unhappy with the departure of Kieran Foran. Picture: Getty Images.
Both are close to Kieran Foran and made no secret of their desire to see him retained. Instead, Foran will join the Gold Coast next season and the Sea Eagles have since used their salary cap to extend the contracts of Saab and Josh Aloiai, as well as Cherry-Evans.
Some at Manly think Jake Trbojevic should be the captain of the side, if not on his own then in tandem with Cherry-Evans.
While there have been rumours in recent months that the brothers and Cherry-Evans are at odds, News Corp has been told that is incorrect.
They are different personalities and aren’t particularly close off the field, but they respect each other and have a working relationship.
“I am certainly aware that (the Trbojevics) are winners and they want to win,” said Penn, who has flown back from the US to help deal with the club’s issues.
“What we have to do is put the structure in place that is going to give them the best opportunity to win premierships and that is what we want.
“We are all aligned on what outcome we want and what our expectations are. That is a perfectly reasonable expectation of theirs and that matches our expectation.
“If we can’t deliver that then we have to find out who can. It is up to us to find a solution.”
Some figures within the club want to see Jake Trbojevic takeover as skipper from Daly Cherry-Evans.

Some figures within the club want to see Jake Trbojevic takeover as skipper from Daly Cherry-Evans.
PLAYER UNREST
Vision has emerged of a frustrated Marty Taupau sharing a video on his own social media account following the club’s recent loss to the Sharks.
The damning footage appears to show a frustrated Taupau being cut-out of the play on purpose by his teammates in attack.
He throws his hands in the air after repeatedly being used as a decoy.
Taupau played his last game for Manly in the loss to Canterbury on Friday night, having been told that the club did not have the salary cap room to keep him.
Manly officials insist the group is still united but results and performances would suggest otherwise.
It is understood that some players are concerned that others are receiving preferential treatment and not taking accountability for their own performances.
A senior player tried to shift the blame of a poor defensive read which led to a try to junior player in a recent video session. That was met with eye roles from his teammates who have now become accustomed to this.

It is easy to blame the recent pride jersey fiasco, when Aloiai, Saab, Olakau’atu, Schuster, Koula, Christian Tuipulotu, and Toafofoa Sipley boycotted the must-win round 20 match against the Sydney Roosters.
“There has been a bit of friction and it all came to a head with the inclusive jersey,” Penn said.
“That wasn’t the sole reason. I think the reality is that there has been a lot of soul searching since but then we have lost a lot of other players.
“We had a number of injuries and just haven’t played well the last seven or eight weeks. Yes, we certainly have had a disappointing end of the season and yes, we need to make some changes.
“But there doesn’t need to be wholesale changes. The board has been incredibly stable for the last five or six years. There are no issues at all.
“There is no issue at management level because Tony is in and we have a new CFO and a new chief commercial person about to come on board. Management is incredibly stable.
“The centre of excellence is great, we are all in the one place, we have a lot of kids coming through the system, we have seven or eight players who debuted this year.
“At least we are blooding the young players. We have to make sure we have the systems in apace to support them.”
The Sea Eagles’ pride jersey was a key turning point for their season, after seven players stood down from the must-win Round 20 game. Picture: Getty Images.

The Sea Eagles’ pride jersey was a key turning point for their season, after seven players stood down from the must-win Round 20 game. Picture: Getty Images.
THE SCHUSTER DILEMMA
Schuster has become the face of the divide.
The 21-year-old has made no secret in private of his desire to play five-eighth but his path has been blocked by one of Hasler’s strongest supporters in Foran.
Hasler saw the 32-year-old Foran as his best chance to win now and give himself some job security - he has clauses in his contract that extended his deal depending on whether he finished in the top eight and top six.
The Fultons believe they are working towards long-term and sustained success, and want to deliver on Bob’s promise that Schuster will one day captain the Sea Eagles.
Hasler’s stance caused angst within the club. Foran has never been a favourite of the Fulton family after he signed with Parramatta in 2015, souring his relationship with Bob.
Josh Schuster has become the face of the divide, after being denied his preferred position at five-eighth. Picture: Getty Images.

Josh Schuster has become the face of the divide, after being denied his preferred position at five-eighth. Picture: Getty Images.
Sources said they viewed Foran as a handbrake to Schuster’s development. The alternative view was that Schuster needed to take some responsibility for his own actions.
He has struggled at times with his weight and fitness, although sources close to the talented youngster insist that can partly be explained by the indecisiveness over his future. He believed he had to put on weight to play in the back row.
The concern for Manly is that Schuster is believed to be considering his future at the club - it is understood he was weighing up asking for a release as he grew frustrated with his treatment.
GONE TO THE DOGS
Mestrov faces a delicate balancing act.
The no-nonsense front-rower played plenty of first grade alongside Hasler at Manly during the 1990s, and also lined up alongside Scott Fulton.
He was thrust into the chief executive’s role just a week after the pride jersey debacle.
Now he is tasked with trying to repair a fractured club.
Mestrov is no shrinking violet. He locked horns with ARL Commission chair and Racing NSW chief executive Peter V’landys at times in his previous guise as boss of Greyhounds NSW.
He has been in rugby league administration before as chief operating officer at the Gold Coast, where he was right hand man to the club’s former chief executive Graham Annesley.
He beat a hot field to the role - the club’s former commercial officer Luke Tucker and NRL head of integrity Jason King, who also played in the front row for Manly, were also in the final three.
Manly chief executive Tony Mestrov faces a massive challenge trying to heal the fractured Sea Eagles. Picture: Justin Lloyd.

Manly chief executive Tony Mestrov faces a massive challenge trying to heal the fractured Sea Eagles. Picture: Justin Lloyd.
It was a rigorous process that involved individual meetings with each member of the board. Mestrov then had further meetings with Penn and fellow owner Gary Wolman.
Mestrov told them that he had no factional alignment; his only loyalty was to the club.
He has been given clear instructions by the owners – do what it takes to win the club’s first premiership since 2011.
“That is his mandate,” Penn said.
“He is here to help us win premierships again. That is the bottom line. So we have to do whatever it takes to do that.
“We just have to sort it out. We know what we have to do. I don’t walk away from the fact we have some challenges we need to address and we are addressing them.
“We are aware, we are dealing with them and we have to find a solution.”
HASLER’S CONTRACT
The Penns are aware that there are people outside the Sea Eagles who have it in for Hasler. The two-time premiership winner will pass Bob Fulton as the longest-serving Sea Eagles coach in round three next season – as long as he survives the off season.
Hasler’s contract was loaded with performance clauses. A top-six finish this season would have triggered another year in 2024 but now he is off-contact at the end of next season.
Hasler’s camp have been pushing for an extension but Manly’s board have stood their ground. They want to see results before they contemplate extending his deal.
The club is also believed to be concerned by the lack of a succession plan.
Des Hasler will pass Bob Fulton as Manly’s longest serving coach if he survives the off-season. Picture: Getty Images.

Des Hasler will pass Bob Fulton as Manly’s longest serving coach if he survives the off-season. Picture: Getty Images.
News Corp understands that the Sea Eagles would consider a handful of coaches if they elect to part ways with Hasler, either now or at the end of next season.
The list is headed by Queensland coach Billy Slater, Sydney Roosters assistant Jason Ryles and former Cronulla coach Shane Flanagan.
North Queensland assistant Dean Young is also likely to be on the list, although he has been earmarked as a potential Anthony Griffin replacement at the Dragons in 2024.
If Hasler agrees to the changes the club want to his coaching and support staff then he will be given a chance to start next season.
“We are still backing him,” Penn said.
“There are other people out there who have guns out for him. That is not internally. That is external - there are people out there who have it in for him.
“What we have to do is work together as a group to make sure that we hit the ground running in ‘23. This isn’t a witch-hunt.


This reads like a summation of a variety of ST threads over the last few days.

Though the article said it was a 'fox sports investigation' - so it probably was.
 
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