Cooper Johns

[Pete W]

Would suggest any back up who is proven or decent will want more than more than the min wage. Also they may want an opportunity to play first grade which may not happen with us

Not sure why there is so much heat on this - if it happens it a depth signing to replace the body of foz. In a squad make up they have decided they need a certain no of halves of which he would be...it does not mean he would be first off if there is an injury etc

Agreed. But I can sort of understand the frustration. It seems our whole recruitment is 'depth' signings and we all secretly hope for that big fish that will be a game-changer (BK, Killer,etc). Obviously won't happen anytime soon but Dean Matterson, Austin Dias, and Cooper Johns doesn't exactly scream success. Tuilagi, Condon are our marquee signings so yeah it's a little comical. Either invest completely in your juniors and/or go hard for quality outside. If we had a Wayne Bennett or a Bellamy-style set up we could probably get away with recruiting reserve graders but... as they say it's just a depth signing lol

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Agreed. But I can sort of understand the frustration. It seems our whole recruitment is 'depth' signings and we all secretly hope for that big fish that will be a game-changer (BK, Killer,etc). Obviously won't happen anytime soon but Dean Matterson, Austin Dias, and Cooper Johns doesn't exactly scream success. Tuilagi, Condon are our marquee signings so yeah it's a little comical. Either invest completely in your juniors and/or go hard for quality outside. If we had a Wayne Bennett or a Bellamy-style set up we could probably get away with recruiting reserve graders but... as they say it's just a depth signing lol

I do think though that our coaching “ limbo” would not have helped our recruiting one bit.

Imagine player A asking the recruiters about next years coaching team , say a month ago.

“ So will Des be the coach next year “

Ah, maybe , maybe not.

“ so who will the coach be “

Ah, maybe Des , if not could be Seibold or Flanagan.

“ oh ok , well whose going to be the assistant “

Ah, dunno

“ so if Des goes will Donny Singe still be the head trainer “

Ah, dunno , maybe , maybe not.

“ oh ok , sorry gotta go the Dolphins are on the other line “.

 

[Shoe1]

Agreed. But I can sort of understand the frustration. It seems our whole recruitment is 'depth' signings and we all secretly hope for that big fish that will be a game-changer (BK, Killer,etc). Obviously won't happen anytime soon but Dean Matterson, Austin Dias, and Cooper Johns doesn't exactly scream success. Tuilagi, Condon are our marquee signings so yeah it's a little comical. Either invest completely in your juniors and/or go hard for quality outside. If we had a Wayne Bennett or a Bellamy-style set up we could probably get away with recruiting reserve graders but... as they say it's just a depth signing lol

He is one of our juniors who ended up debuting for Melbourne, so at least now if he is going to be any good it is at manly not melbourne.

 

[Seagles68]

I do think though that our coaching “ limbo” would not have helped our recruiting one bit.

Imagine player A asking the recruiters about next years coaching team , say a month ago.

“ So will Des be the coach next year “

Ah, maybe , maybe not.

“ so who will the coach be “

Ah, maybe Des , if not could be Seibold or Flanagan.

“ oh ok , well whose going to be the assistant “

Ah, dunno

“ so if Des goes will Donny Singe still be the head trainer “

Ah, dunno , maybe , maybe not.

“ oh ok , sorry gotta go the Dolphins are on the other line “.

I reckon you've secretly recorded those conversations.

 

[Koko22]

Depth signing actually means you can play at this level I have seen nothing in his career even as a junior that would indicate he is worth a contract.

We have far to many of these "depth" players who are just duds in our top 30. He would be lucky to get a game for Blacktown.

Don't let the last name seduce you he has nothing to offer in the nrl. Lovely kid met him a few times just a dud footballer.

 

[davohan123]

it’s a no from me

 

[JenEagle]

Bloke wouldn’t make most reserve grade sides.

If we need a backup half why don’t we sign PNG’s Kyle Laybutt who has performed again and again for them at international level the past few years.

Agree. How this guy has not got a nrl contract is beyond me.

 

[JenEagle]

I do think though that our coaching “ limbo” would not have helped our recruiting one bit.

Imagine player A asking the recruiters about next years coaching team , say a month ago.

“ So will Des be the coach next year “

Ah, maybe , maybe not.

“ so who will the coach be “

Ah, maybe Des , if not could be Seibold or Flanagan.

“ oh ok , well whose going to be the assistant “

Ah, dunno

“ so if Des goes will Donny Singe still be the head trainer “

Ah, dunno , maybe , maybe not.

“ oh ok , sorry gotta go the Dolphins are on the other line “.

Lol. That’s hilarious

 

[Golden Greek]

Just another dud mistake IMO I think we have enough young guys on the books who deserve a go.
But I would like to see Cade Cust back in Manly colours.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Just another dud mistake IMO I think we have enough young guys on the books who deserve a go.
But I would like to see Cade Cust back in Manly colours.

Cust wouldn't be all that cheap anymore, and I imagine he'd only come back to Australia to play NRL, not as a backup.

 

[Golden Greek]

Cust wouldn't be all that cheap anymore, and I imagine he'd only come back to Australia to play NRL, not as a backup.

Yep totally agree not a backup I would just like him back at the club. Anyhow I'm sure we have some money in the cap now, after loosing Foran, Taupou, Walker thats freed up around $2M and surely we can buy a 1 or 2 big name players but with all the drama at Manly who would want to come

 

[Darknstormy]

My question is who in our office suggested him and does seibold have a say in the signing..are seibolds and johns managed by the same guy?

 

[Leighbra]

Not sure why everyone is complaining, Johns might not be a big name signing but he has played 11 NRL games in my eyes that beats the dud Ron Massey Cup signings we have made in the past for our Cup Side. I'd rather Johns then some journey man half that has played at every club across the state. Welcome back to the Northern Beaches Coops

 

[SeaEagle007]

why look at him , when we have Weekes , or Humphries. FMD go after Cust again FFS this would be a dud signing if it occurs

 

[lsz]

In our club we need to fill the roster with 30 players including a number on min wage

In this instance they could either go for

1. A kid with little or no experience but upside and potential (which we have in humphries)
2. A journey man looking for a contract who could "do a job" but with little upside

For a balanced roster, and if they see something in humphries, why would they bring in someone

 

[Shoe1]

In our club we need to fill the roster with 30 players including a number on min wage

In this instance they could either go for

1. A kid with little or no experience but upside and potential (which we have in humphries)
2. A journey man looking for a contract who could "do a job" but with little upside

For a balanced roster, and if they see something in humphries, why would they bring in someone

Maybe Johns can play dummy half

 

[IQofalimabean]

most of the halves we have signed from melbourne have gone alright.

 

[JenEagle]

When are we going to extend Kaeo Weekes ?

 

[Woodsie]

most of the halves we have signed from melbourne have gone alright.

Brett Kimmorley ?

 

[IQofalimabean]

Brett Kimmorley ?

Well the halves coached by bellamy. He is the best coach after all.