Who do you agree with

[jbb/james]

The future funding agreement that the clubs are in dispute with currently with the Nrl. The pressure on grant in particular , which may trickle down to doucheberg hopefully.

So from what ive read the nrl are saying they cant give the clubs the cash they had hoped to due to having to look after other aspects of the game which i understand if thats correct. Its hard to see what the Nrl is really doing to boost numbers and look to the future. And i know the doucheberg, if he thought he was doing something people would like , we would have seen it 600 times. He would have no torso left from all the chest beating and back slapping he would have performed in building his profile. The ****er would have taken flight with all that arm activity

Then reading Gus where he said the clubs have been told by the game consistently that they are doing a great job, numbers and participation is growing, everything is good, apparently this info is relayed to the clubs via updates about the game and throught board docs .

But now as the funding issue heats up the NRL is in crisis , numbers are down, the sky is falling , we cant give you the cash. We have to save the children, the orphins and the orphins one legged puppy that has cancer. And global warming

The stakeholders outside the game , the Nrl, all benefit from clubs struggling financially. If they ever get strong, cashed up and sure of themselves , they dont need the rest really, so keeping them poor is helpful for those with political and commercial interests. Some can even be blamed for keeping The others broke due to being propped up. Its almost the perfect model to screw the futue of the game and keep all vested parties at the trough for some time yet

In my eyes its simple give the clubs the cash or sack grant for talking ****, or sack doucheterd for running the game down the gurggler.

Gotta say i am so over the fight, deception, commercialism, and dirty low ball tactics that has surrounded our game since superleague.

The clubs are no angels , i know they cause issues too but currently the lop siddedness of welll.....everything and the rubbish the governing body dishes up, this issue will drag on and on i reckon and to be honest the longer it does the better for league. The clubs have to stay strong and that where the clubs could fail, staying united considering club structures

 

[Eagles2nv]

I don't know the full story, but it seems that the fact the 16 clubs have joined forces to demand what they believe is money they are entitled too means there is likely weight in their argument.

They're not going to ask for money without having educated arguments against the NRL finances, even if the NRL is claiming the money is being used for other aspects. They all know the value of the TV rights deal.

On the flip slide, I wonder if the clubs have spent in advance of the assumed NRL payments, but are now short. Could back-fire on clubs who are well spent into the future such as the riff who now have 14 players signed to 2019.

 

[Loobs]

If more of the cash stays at NRL HQ then Greenturd can pay himself a bigger bonus. I think he believes he's Roger Goodell and thus deserves Goodell's $40+ million pay packet.

 

[Frank]

All sounds dodgy to me. They should introduce some kind of independent commission to run the game.

 

[The Who]

Administration of rugby league has been poor. They have sold we fans out to Channel Nein, who have created a totally unfair and lopsided draw purely chasing ratings.
Had the administrators stood firm and put the interest of fans first then the TV networks/Pay TV would have caved in, knowing that RL is imperative to their livelihood. After all, who is going to pay to watch Fox if it didn't cover RL?
RL thrived before TV. Current administrators seem to think that RL only survives because of TV, and has sold out we fans.
Instead of paying huge salaries to administrators, and building monolithic offices for them, much more money needs to go to regional and rural areas to spread the game and keep the flow of country players coming.
The clubs seem almost as money-hungry. Where is the investment in cultivating country regions?
On balance, I'm behind the clubs. They have the power to form a new competition. Administrators - particularly bad ones like we currently have - can be hired from Centrelink!

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

TW, I couldn't agree more.

Noting you're a fan of propagating the game in the country, why do you think scrapping City-Country* is a good idea?

The only way I could contemplate the intent to scrap it (as a good idea), is if clubs continue to find excuses for their stars not to appear in the fixture. Surely it remains one of the best showcases for promoting the game in regional NSW?

*See recent thread, readers.🙂

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

I don't know the full story, but it seems that the fact the 16 clubs have joined forces to demand what they believe is money they are entitled too means there is likely weight in their argument.

They're not going to ask for money without having educated arguments against the NRL finances, even if the NRL is claiming the money is being used for other aspects. They all know the value of the TV rights deal.

On the flip slide, I wonder if the clubs have spent in advance of the assumed NRL payments, but are now short. Could back-fire on clubs who are well spent into the future such as the riff who now have 14 players signed to 2019.

This isn't an argument about the cap, it's been agreed the cap is going up commensurate with the increased TV deal, how much exactly is still conjecture.

HOWEVER

This argument is about the 30% of the cap that was to be going direct to the clubs, for the running of their offices, staff, coaching staff etc etc.

Let's say the cap went to 8 Million, that was 2.4 Million in ( as far as we are concerned) the Penns pocket, which is clearly 2.4 million more than they have now.

With the income they get from membership, hospitality, merchandise , ticket sales taken into account all of a sudden owning an NRL franchise is a nice little money spinner.

Lots of clubs don't need this to survive BUT the difference it could make to probably 12/16 clubs will be massive.

This was agreed to 12 months ago but now Grant and Greenslime want to renege.

I don't blame them (the clubs).

Easy really , if we don't get paid we (all 16) are going to withdraw our players from the Comp starting March 2017.

Grant and Turdburger would fold in a heart beat, OR be sacked!!

 

[wombatgc]

As I understand it, Grant signed a memorandum with the clubs guaranteeing the clubs 130% of the salary cap. Now he's pulled that off the table. And starting feeding the clubs a load of crap about setting the salary cap first, and other areas of the game which had nothing to do with the original deal.
To get rid of Grant you have to have all 16 clubs plus the qrl and the nswrl on board. The last I heard the qrl said they wouldn't be aparty to taking dodgy Grant down.
Greenburg is backing him now....but you could see the slimey prick sticking the knife in if things dont go his way.

 

[wombatgc]

This isn't an argument about the cap, it's been agreed the cap is going up commensurate with the increased TV deal, how much exactly is still conjecture.

HOWEVER

This argument is about the 30% of the cap that was to be going direct to the clubs, for the running of their offices, staff, coaching staff etc etc.

Let's say the cap went to 8 Million, that was 2.4 Million in ( as far as we are concerned) the Penns pocket, which is clearly 2.4 million more than they have now.

With the income they get from membership, hospitality, merchandise , ticket sales taken into account all of a sudden owning an NRL franchise is a nice little money spinner.

Lots of clubs don't need this to survive BUT the difference it could make to probably 12/16 clubs will be massive.

This was agreed to 12 months ago but now Grant and Greenslime want to renege.

I don't blame them (the clubs).

Easy really , if we don't get paid we (all 16) are going to withdraw our players from the Comp starting March 2017.

Grant and Turdburger would fold in a heart beat, OR be sacked!!

wish I'd seen your post before my dribble. I fkn hate texting!

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

No, they just need an independent commission to run the independent commission.

No, they just need some people with common sense, and not just in it for the $900k salary.

 

[The Who]

TW, I couldn't agree more.

Noting you're a fan of propagating the game in the country, why do you think scrapping City-Country* is a good idea?

🙂

If our club wasn't just about money we'd take a couple of matches to a large country region, and try to entice new Sea Eagle members. But no, they take a home game blockbuster to Suncorp.
Scrapping City V Country is sensible because it has totally lost its meaning of showcasing new country talent in the city. Now we see these players ever week, so the match is meaningless.

 

[Snake]

a rudimentary understanding of percentages will sort this argument out. If the NRL have been propping clubs up with a combined 30% (hypothetical figure) of revenue made before a new increased TV rights deal is struck and the clubs are still receiving the same amount of $$$ as before, then you have your answer.

If NRL revenue is increased then naturally the clubs expect their funding to increase accordingly.

 

[DUFFMAN]

The game is dying because of greed.
They need to put more funds into Country, Schools and Juniors. The AFL spends lots of money on schools and juniors to upgrade grounds to AFL grounds with free ground reconfiguring.
So many bush teams have folded because of lack of funds.
The NRL needs to subsidise juniors.
When my son played in the Parramatta area in the late 90s the registration, jersey, shorts, socks where free. The only thing we paid for from ages 6-10 was his boots. Now if kids want to play it cost a bucket load of cash. Get them young and you keep them well into there teens.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

The game is dying because of greed.
They need to put more funds into Country, Schools and Juniors. The AFL spends lots of money on schools and juniors to upgrade grounds to AFL grounds with free ground reconfiguring.
So many bush teams have folded because of lack of funds.
The NRL needs to subsidise juniors.
When my son played in the Parramatta area in the late 90s the registration, jersey, shorts, socks where free. The only thing we paid for from ages 6-10 was his boots. Now if kids want to play it cost a bucket load of cash. Get them young and you keep them well into there teens.

Well said mate!!!

 

[Michael H]

The best thing for the future of the NRL is for Grant to be sacked and Greenberg to go with him. Heck, Grant should be sacked just for employing Greenberg let alone everything else.

 

[manlyfan76]

Just imagine for a second if the NRL had world class administrators.

Billion dollar TV deal and a great game.

The mind boggles.

 

[MadMarcus]

The game needs people running it who care about the game, no just their next paycheque

 

[R3]

The future funding agreement that the clubs are in dispute with currently with the Nrl. The pressure on grant in particular , which may trickle down to doucheberg hopefully.

So from what ive read the nrl are saying they cant give the clubs the cash they had hoped to due to having to look after other aspects of the game which i understand if thats correct. Its hard to see what the Nrl is really doing to boost numbers and look to the future. And i know the doucheberg, if he thought he was doing something people would like , we would have seen it 600 times. He would have no torso left from all the chest beating and back slapping he would have performed in building his profile. The ****er would have taken flight with all that arm activity

Then reading Gus where he said the clubs have been told by the game consistently that they are doing a great job, numbers and participation is growing, everything is good, apparently this info is relayed to the clubs via updates about the game and throught board docs .

But now as the funding issue heats up the NRL is in crisis , numbers are down, the sky is falling , we cant give you the cash. We have to save the children, the orphins and the orphins one legged puppy that has cancer. And global warming

The stakeholders outside the game , the Nrl, all benefit from clubs struggling financially. If they ever get strong, cashed up and sure of themselves , they dont need the rest really, so keeping them poor is helpful for those with political and commercial interests. Some can even be blamed for keeping The others broke due to being propped up. Its almost the perfect model to screw the futue of the game and keep all vested parties at the trough for some time yet

In my eyes its simple give the clubs the cash or sack grant for talking ****, or sack doucheterd for running the game down the gurggler.

Gotta say i am so over the fight, deception, commercialism, and dirty low ball tactics that has surrounded our game since superleague.

The clubs are no angels , i know they cause issues too but currently the lop siddedness of welll.....everything and the rubbish the governing body dishes up, this issue will drag on and on i reckon and to be honest the longer it does the better for league. The clubs have to stay strong and that where the clubs could fail, staying united considering club structures

Best dongle post I've I've ever read about the game of any status

The future funding agreement that the clubs are in dispute with currently with the Nrl. The pressure on grant in particular , which may trickle down to doucheberg hopefully.

So from what ive read the nrl are saying they cant give the clubs the cash they had hoped to due to having to look after other aspects of the game which i understand if thats correct. Its hard to see what the Nrl is really doing to boost numbers and look to the future. And i know the doucheberg, if he thought he was doing something people would like , we would have seen it 600 times. He would have no torso left from all the chest beating and back slapping he would have performed in building his profile. The ****er would have taken flight with all that arm activity

Then reading Gus where he said the clubs have been told by the game consistently that they are doing a great job, numbers and participation is growing, everything is good, apparently this info is relayed to the clubs via updates about the game and throught board docs .

But now as the funding issue heats up the NRL is in crisis , numbers are down, the sky is falling , we cant give you the cash. We have to save the children, the orphins and the orphins one legged puppy that has cancer. And global warming

The stakeholders outside the game , the Nrl, all benefit from clubs struggling financially. If they ever get strong, cashed up and sure of themselves , they dont need the rest really, so keeping them poor is helpful for those with political and commercial interests. Some can even be blamed for keeping The others broke due to being propped up. Its almost the perfect model to screw the futue of the game and keep all vested parties at the trough for some time yet

In my eyes its simple give the clubs the cash or sack grant for talking ****, or sack doucheterd for running the game down the gurggler.

Gotta say i am so over the fight, deception, commercialism, and dirty low ball tactics that has surrounded our game since superleague.

The clubs are no angels , i know they cause issues too but currently the lop siddedness of welll.....everything and the rubbish the governing body dishes up, this issue will drag on and on i reckon and to be honest the longer it does the better for league. The clubs have to stay strong and that where the clubs could fail, staying united considering club structures

So spot on!