when does pre season training start?

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most clubs from memory are at some point in the first two weeks of November so they can usually get 6 weeks of light work in before xmas break, then come back with foot on the pedal. Usually the non finals teams tend to be the first ones back, deeper you go, later you tend to start.
 
A bottom 8 team member walks into a bar.

The bartender says "why the long season?"
Look pre-season training has already started for me (and other fans) - Green still won't win us a comp, Kelly still hesitates in defence, Brown still fails to impose himself (except on our salary cap) and Winterstein still hasn't got any younger (despite all the chances we've given him).
Pre-season training is in full swing, from what I can see.
edit- oh yes, and Lussick is still an ill-disciplined hot-head.
 
Look pre-season training has already started for me (and other fans) - Green still won't win us a comp, Kelly still hesitates in defence, Brown still fails to impose himself (except on our salary cap) and Winterstein still hasn't got any younger (despite all the chances we've given him).
Pre-season training is in full swing, from what I can see.
edit- oh yes, and Lussick is still an ill-disciplined hot-head.

Sums up our foibles very eloquently!
 

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9 7 2 49 16
9 6 3 57 14
10 6 4 115 12
10 6 4 58 12
9 5 4 -14 12
10 5 4 31 11
9 4 5 19 10
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10 4 6 -18 8
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