Wayne Cousins ( Media Manager)

[Mark from Brisbane]

I don’t think it will be that bad because AI doesn’t actually think. All it really does is glorified quantitative analysis ( can cross reference huge amounts of data ( on a massive!!!scale) and look for correlation etc, it runs off simple algebra based principles. Human thinking for most 🙂 is significantly more sophisticated than this. In regards to your example someone will need to critique the research and make sure it is revelant etc. Juniors will be needed to do some type of sh!t Kicker tasks still remaining at a lower cost than fully trained seniors…. Law firms will need up and coming lawyers or there will be no future for the business. Remember AI doesn’t actually really think and that’s not likely to change anytime soon despite the hype… it will just get faster and more powerful at what it does….

Yes I don’t think my BIL was suggesting that all those junior lawyers would not have a job , he’s just suggesting that AI will take a lot of jobs away from what is effectively “ grunt work “.

To be honest I’m a technical nerd , I can log on here and type away , do a word document but that’s about it so what it can do and can’t do I have no idea but he’s convinced it’s going to eliminate hundreds of thousands of jobs within the next 10 years.

 

[mave]

Today I learnt that the Media Dept are an integral part of the Premiership Puzzle.

We should just head-hunt the Panthers Media guy and just engrave our name on the Cup already.

Simples.

 

[Uber Eagle 72]

Yes I don’t think my BIL was suggesting that all those junior lawyers would not have a job , he’s just suggesting that AI will take a lot of jobs away from what is effectively “ grunt work “.

To be honest I’m a technical nerd , I can log on here and type away , do a word document but that’s about it so what it can do and can’t do I have no idea but he’s convinced it’s going to eliminate hundreds of thousands of jobs within the next 10 years.

When I studied supply chain ( was called materials management) in the 90’s I remember the professors confidently predicting that shopping centres , car dealers etc will be extinct in the future, ( within 20 years) due to e commerce. The reality is the internet boom certainly changed things but hey 35 years later shopping centres and car dealers certainly still exist. 🙂 I have no doubt jobs will be lost to AI but am also pretty confident more new jobs will also be created….University professors even the really good ones often get it wrong.…🙂 personally I think the future is rather exciting especially if AI can assist with providing some decent aged care for the aging population including myself🙂

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

When I studied supply chain ( was called materials management) in the 90’s I remember the professors confidently predicting that shopping centres , car dealers etc will be extinct in the future, ( within 20 years) due to e commerce. The reality is the internet boom certainly changed things but hey 35 years later shopping centres and car dealers certainly still exist. 🙂 I have no doubt jobs will be lost to AI but am also pretty confident more new jobs will also be created….University professors even the really good ones often get it wrong.…🙂 personally I think the future is rather exciting especially if AI can assist with providing some decent aged care for the aging population including myself🙂

Yes one of the things the BIL did say is “ it’ll cut out a lot of grunt jobs but there will be a lot of new jobs created , sone we don’t even know about at this point “.

One thing it confirms , you either go down the road of a trade or you get as qualified as you can because those in between jobs are the ones that’ll be attacked.

 

[Dan]

When I studied supply chain ( was called materials management) in the 90’s I remember the professors confidently predicting that shopping centres , car dealers etc will be extinct in the future, ( within 20 years) due to e commerce. The reality is the internet boom certainly changed things but hey 35 years later shopping centres and car dealers certainly still exist. 🙂 I have no doubt jobs will be lost to AI but am also pretty confident more new jobs will also be created….University professors even the really good ones often get it wrong.…🙂 personally I think the future is rather exciting especially if AI can assist with providing some decent aged care for the aging population including myself🙂

They made the predictions based on intent which were absolutely correct, however they forgot about the thing that is still yet to be solved in Australia. Logistics

It is slowly getting better here, but its so far behind most other countries, super expensive (because of distance) and very slow. When I moved back to Australia I had culture shock of having to wait several days for something that I ordered online, whereas in Amsterdam as long as I ordered before midnight whatever I ordered would be there the next day before 12 and they would usually give you a 10 - 20 minute window for when it was delivered. Now given you can circum navigate the entire country of the Netherlands in about 6 hours but this was the same for things coming in from Germany, Belgium or France and even the UK were next day.

Car dealerships are never going away, because we will always need somewhere for scumbags to work.

The other thing they didn't factor into these predictions was that the internet also lead us down a path of instant gratification, the battles of Logistics and waiting days meant too much cooling time on products.

Finally there are a few things that I would never buy online. Anything you sit on or Lay on needs to be tested before you buy it, clothing, unless you know the retailer and their sized your are on a hiding to none.
I would probably buy a car online, but even new I would like to see it and drive it first.

Theres always a threat to the job market, economy etc and we seem to always make predictions based on the invention and commercialisation of the car, but those who fail to heed history are destined to repeat it.
What I mean by this is prior to the car, horses were the beast of burden for just about everything, travel, work etc entire industries existed because of the horse. We needed people to care for the horses hooves, stables, feed supply, grooming, health care, breeding, sales so much of the economy depended on them and in less than a decade, cars replaced them and changed everything.

Anyway all that is to say the people in the media reporting on these things, are not trying to sell anything other than advertising, the industry that truly controls the world. Watched bits of the the news as one of my kids had it on the other week. Switched it off and told him to go do something constructive, every story was doom and gloom and crime and rubbish

 

[manly al]

Probably a quite high concentration of technological or technology based functions or roles right through most societies for some time now and A I just another development although certainly getting on the sophisticated side .
Recall just before the advent of the computer age and all the predictions of doom and gloom with job and general employment prospects and for a workforce in general and most things just evolved and adapted from that development
Looks like more of a service and a higher percentage care orientated economy taking shape now around the globe and well into the future so not sure if A I is going to be particularly influential there and no doubt still in plenty of other employment or traditional areas as well .
Have been noticing in the medical field and treatment practices that A I is providing a real benefit and advancement and that can only be a huge plus

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

so not sure if A I is going to be particularly influential there and no doubt still in plenty of other employment or traditional areas as well .

AI will be key to controlling information. Historically this was achieved through institutions and the press, then TV and mass media, and currently it's through social media.
Musk bought Twitter and is fighting for control of AI, which I think says all we need to know about how important it is to control the narrative and control information (if you'd like to rule the world).
(Actually just read that Musk also wants to buy Liverpool FC, wonder if he'd like an NRL club too!!)

 

[Dan]

Also on the topic of AI, lets really better understand what AI actually is. It's really a complete misnomer, It is largely not that different from the language models of a few years ago, what has changed is the compute power and languages that define them. They are really just large language learning models and there is nothing that intelligent about them.

Best way to think about them is massive databases or information, that can be queried in natural language.

No less powerful but it is not something that is self aware or can actually truly think for itself.

You will get the best use out of them if you think of them as automation servants. They have a huge database of information, they interpret what you ask them, put a score to them and fish out a response based on the information it uses. Unlike humans they can't truly reason and are not fully aware of things that happened before, in a way that can provide context to now.

As an example, one of my kids came back this week, I have been putting him to bed at 8:30 as its holidays and he has been waking up at 10:30 or 11. I can apply situational awareness to this and understand the reason is, that he has been at his mothers house where he has unfettered access to technology, no fixed bed time, and stays awake all night playing video games.

If I asked AI "Why is my son so tired" even if I had previously told it that he had just got back from his Mum's house. The AI would be unable to put all of the context together because it just has a growing dictionary of events, questions and statements that it mines for a scored match.

AI in its current form is not going to take away all the jobs of the world, it is not vastly different to what we have had for a long time, its just faster and better at it than it was.

Another example is with coding. Sometimes I use it to write code for me to speed up the process, however I also understand that AI for coding makes its own things up and starts to build out stuff that makes no sense and is not what you asked so yo need to be able to know what it has written and fact check it yourself, as only a human can, you also have to be able to manage it writing components rather than entire pieces and then bring those together.

If you understand how AI can serve you rather than how it competes with you then you get a way more positive outcome and outlook on AI.

One final note, is please for the love of god learn how to write correct prompts for AI, the more we train it with bad prompts the worse it becomes, some of them were trained on Reddit and get sassy. Garbage in garbage out learn good prompts

 

[Brookie Bob]

They made the predictions based on intent which were absolutely correct, however they forgot about the thing that is still yet to be solved in Australia. Logistics

It is slowly getting better here, but its so far behind most other countries, super expensive (because of distance) and very slow. When I moved back to Australia I had culture shock of having to wait several days for something that I ordered online, whereas in Amsterdam as long as I ordered before midnight whatever I ordered would be there the next day before 12 and they would usually give you a 10 - 20 minute window for when it was delivered. Now given you can circum navigate the entire country of the Netherlands in about 6 hours but this was the same for things coming in from Germany, Belgium or France and even the UK were next day.

Which is why overseas-based companies scratch their heads in disbelief when you tell them that the cycle turns for goods here in Australia are never likely to reach Six Sigma, especially if out of metro capital commerce is involved.

 

[Dan]

Which is why overseas-based companies scratch their heads in disbelief when you tell them that the cycle turns for goods here in Australia are never likely to reach Six Sigma, especially if out of metro capital commerce is involved.

This is starting to feel like OG Silvertails

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

This is starting to feel like OG Silvertails

Dan, my mate just bought a BYD electric car.

There’s no salespeople, you can go to a display centre & look at one , you can also book a test drive, but that’s it.

You order online , paying a small deposit , they turn contact you to say your car is here , you pay the balance and someone physically registers it for you.

Then then advise it’s ready to pick up, big you must watch a YouTube video first which explains how it works.

You arrive,give the password & show ID, you get the keys and drive out.

There’s literally one person working at the delivery / test drive centre.

That’s a very very VERY low cost sales model.