Watmough on Hasler ...

[Go manly]

If anyone is gonna mend those bridges with snake and gift it will be des. They loved him. No coach has stood by a player like he stood by Brett.

You betcha mate
They have a bond both inside and outside of league that snake will never forget

 

[Shoe1]

Manly/tooves were right to only offer choc a 2 year contract at the end of his career. Look how the 4 year contract panned out.

 

[fLIP]

Watmough reads his own press. Of course he thinks it was all him and his bum chums, same reason they chucked a tantrum and started walking out on the club. It was all about them.

 

[madmax]

This is the very same podcast. Choc spends a great deal of time crapping on 2v 😡

Watmough is not half the man Toovey is! He can crap on as much as he likes but he will never come close to Toovey as a person, player or Manly icon!

 

[Woodsie]

Could care less about the botox headed twats personality.

But when he continually sh*ts all over the club every time someone sticks a mic to his porcelin face, he can get stuffed.

Hasler is as mad as a cut snake. I have my grave reservations but hope he proves me wrong and puts us back on top.

Not death riding Hasler. Just very very cautious to get my hopes up at all.

I agree ... but Des has 2 of the most important things needed at the moment ... Mojo and reputation ... throw in a couple of wins and that combination can achieve a lot with confidence ... should be enough for a couple of good years to rebuild the brand .....

By the end of his time at the mutts that Mojo was all but gone ..... time will tell whether he again loses it ....... but as I said, with the new energy and Donny around the place he should keep it long enough for us to fly like Eagles again ...

 

[Woodsie]

This went the opposite way you intended
I wonder who will be the Stewarts in the present team to pull Des back ?

Good question and the one that intriqued me to start this thread .... can't wait til the first time some poor bugger puts his hand up after hearing the game plan and says .... "you're taking the piss aren't you coach"

 

[NYEagle]

Watmough is not half the man Toovey is! He can crap on as much as he likes but he will never come close to Toovey as a person, player or Manly icon!

While I agree that Watmough is not half the Manly-man Toovey is - now, I think while he was playing he represented what it was to be Manly better than any other player.
Compare Watmough in his playing days to Taupau now. Taupau is not 1/10th of the player that Watmough was in term of attitude and hunger. Yeah he is a good player, but he does not show any of the F%$K you that Watmough used to represent.
It's a shame that he burned his own bridges. He would have been a Manly immortal had he have seen out his career with Manly and kept quiet.
But as Bearfax pointed out, he made a lot of sacrifices for loyalty, and when things changed he felt cheated. Pity it all came to that.
NYEagle

 

[HappilyManly]

But as Bearfax pointed out, he made a lot of sacrifices for loyalty, and when things changed he felt cheated

Sadly that loyalty was only to his mate and not Manly 🙁

 

[Nice Beaver]

I agree ... but Des has 2 of the most important things needed at the moment ... Mojo and reputation ... throw in a couple of wins and that combination can achieve a lot with confidence ... should be enough for a couple of good years to rebuild the brand .....

By the end of his time at the mutts that Mojo was all but gone ..... time will tell whether he again loses it ....... but as I said, with the new energy and Donny around the place he should keep it long enough for us to fly like Eagles again ...

Yeah I do agree that Des is the best fit for the club right now. Never, ever thought I would say that!

Guess it says a lot about how badly the club has been mismanaged these past 5 years or so.

I hope my concerns about potential issues are unfounded and he proves me wrong.

 

[Briza]

or the one that puts his hand up and says "what's a game plan?"

That'll be Trent if he stays until July.

 

[fLIP]

I guess it was Glen and Brett Stewart that got the bulldogs to two grand finals? They must have been calling him and telling his his ideas are stupid.

 

[Woodsie]

I guess it was Glen and Brett Stewart that got the bulldogs to two grand finals? They must have been calling him and telling his his ideas are stupid.

No one suggested his ideas were stupid or that Des is not a first rate coach ...... Watmough went to lengths to say that his greartest attribute as a coach was he listened to the players .....

But I have no difficulty whatsoever in believing that among the good ideas he could also come up with (as Watmough described them) as some pretty twisted and crazy game plans ..... I also have no doubt that some players with the nous of Brett and Gifty would be helpful in shaping them into workable plots ...... Manly had at that time a team load of smart footballers ....

At Manly we now have the youngest team in Manly's history ...... it also amuses me think that some of these kids will say great idea coach instead .....

 

[madmax]

While I agree that Watmough is not half the Manly-man Toovey is - now, I think while he was playing he represented what it was to be Manly better than any other player.
Compare Watmough in his playing days to Taupau now. Taupau is not 1/10th of the player that Watmough was in term of attitude and hunger. Yeah he is a good player, but he does not show any of the F%$K you that Watmough used to represent.
It's a shame that he burned his own bridges. He would have been a Manly immortal had he have seen out his career with Manly and kept quiet.
But as Bearfax pointed out, he made a lot of sacrifices for loyalty, and when things changed he felt cheated. Pity it all came to that.
NYEagle

NY I agree with some of what you say but comparing Watmough to Toovey is like comparing coal to a diamond! Toovey bled for the club & not once complained. What happened to him exceeds anything that happened to Watmough Toovey was thrown to the wolves yet is still a passionate Manly man & never rubbished the club as Watmough did.......that's what i call a Manly man & what represents Manly!

 

[Top End Eagle]

No one suggested his ideas were stupid or that Des is not a first rate coach ...... Watmough went to lengths to say that his greartest attribute as a coach was he listened to the players .....

But I have no difficulty whatsoever in believing that among the good ideas he could also come up with (as Watmough described them) as some pretty twisted and crazy game plans ..... I also have no doubt that some players with the nous of Brett and Gifty would be helpful in shaping them into workable plots ...... Manly had at that time a team load of smart footballers ....

At Manly we now have the youngest team in Manly's history ...... it also amuses me think that some of these kids will say great idea coach instead .....

The Stewart boys weren't at Canterbury to shut down the short drop out plan.

 

[rmd]

To be honest, I didn’t Choc’s comments, it just showed how much of a tight group they were over the years and how they played for each other and the club, which is probably represented in the results the team achieved.

The playing group is never bigger than the club but CHOC’s comments about the senior playing group wanting to drop Wolfy, if correct, due to his perceived lack of confidence, if true, shows a huge insight into how the senior players thought they were running the club under ‘Toovs’ and the lack of respect they actually had for ‘Toovs’.

Also Choc’s comments that Toov’s said ‘You pick the play’, may be read as ‘Well you think you know it all, go ahead and choose’.

Toov’s was on a hiding to nothing at the time. A strong playing group who were egotistical about how they could be successful without him and they knew better. A disinfranchised group that were coming to the end of their careers with a massive injury toll merely looking after each other, not the club.

And of course they had DCE, a player whose manager had agreed apparently to a ridiculous contract of $50 each year over 4 years with some incentive benefits.

Choc spoke passionately of his own son and so what would he have advised his own son in a similar position to DCE?

 

[double hoops]

the above is the famous Watmough podcast , where he, among other things gives an insight into Dessie's coaching as he saw it ..... with the return of the great an I thought it would be interesting to discuss ...

At 9.39 into the podcast he says that Des would come up with some twisted and crazy game plans and it would be up to Glen and Brett Stewart to tell him they won't work ..... good stuff ...

Would be great to get Gifty involved in coaching at Man. I don't think anyone is happy with the way he vanished from Manly, and then was booted from South's. There is unfinished business there. I reckon he will be back one day, I just hope it's coaching at Man.