Post-Game Discussion Warriors V Manly [Round 2, 2025]

[Dion Johnson]

I'm a bit over Aloiai pulling off one good hit and making a hell of a deal about it

That was his highlight reel!!

He should be doing the physicality every tackle as he does nothing with the ball, no offload in his game and yesterday statistics had him with 8 runs for 66 meters and 21 post contact meters.

That has him making 8 meters each run 2.6 meters post contact each run on average compared to his starting front row partner he is way behind in this department.

Some think he played well yesterday, for me the balance of the side you need more from a starting front rower other than one decent hit, he wouldn’t make my 17 based on what is at the club.

 

[Chunkytuna]

That was his highlight reel!!

He should be doing the physicality every tackle as he does nothing with the ball, no offload in his game and yesterday statistics had him with 8 runs for 66 meters and 21 post contact meters.

That has him making 8 meters each run 2.6 meters post contact each run on average compared to his starting front row partner he is way behind in this department.

Some think he played well yesterday, for me the balance of the side you need more from a starting front rower other than one decent hit, he wouldn’t make my 17 based on what is at the club.

I’d be putting big money on him being benched for TKO if he’s available. Either him or sips will be dropped to Reggies barring injuries.

 

[Dion Johnson]

I’d be putting big money on him being benched for TKO if he’s available. Either him or sips will be dropped to Reggies barring injuries.

TKO offers more and balances out the pack with his game, him and Lodge working with Tent and Bully I think is the best balance in the middle. I like Sipley but he is rocks and diamonds, if he lost a few kilograms it would help his agility.

I don’t think you can play Jake, Aloiai, Brown and Tevega all in the same 17, they have similar games, same physique which makes it a bit easier for the opposition defence in contact areas, you could play two of them but three or more that don’t bend the opposition line puts a lot on Tent and Bully in the middle.

 

[Peter C]

The last camera angle of Garricks foot showed it was just inside the line.

Lets not forget that the vision the bunker gets and viewing angles is way better than what you see on TV

 

[Stewbojevic]

TKO offers more and balances out the pack with his game, him and Lodge working with Tent and Bully I think is the best balance in the middle. I like Sipley but he is rocks and diamonds, if he lost a few kilograms it would help his agility.

I don’t think you can play Jake, Aloiai, Brown and Tevega all in the same 17, they have similar games, same physique which makes it a bit easier for the opposition defence in contact areas, you could play two of them but three or more that don’t bend the opposition line puts a lot on Tent and Bully in the middle.

100% agree. Sipley and Tevaga are too slow and lazy in defence when under fatigue. It’s been shown up twice already in two rounds and something I predicted in the offseason.

 

[Seagles68]

TKO offers more and balances out the pack with his game, him and Lodge working with Tent and Bully I think is the best balance in the middle. I like Sipley but he is rocks and diamonds, if he lost a few kilograms it would help his agility.

I don’t think you can play Jake, Aloiai, Brown and Tevega all in the same 17, they have similar games, same physique which makes it a bit easier for the opposition defence in contact areas, you could play two of them but three or more that don’t bend the opposition line puts a lot on Tent and Bully in the middle.

I think this is fair but I have great reservations about Lodge.

Edit: Great Lodge reservations sounds like I have somewhere great to stay

 

[Dion Johnson]

100% agree. Sipley and Tevaga are too slow and lazy in defence when under fatigue. It’s been shown up twice already in two rounds and something I predicted in the offseason.

I thought Jazz missed Drinkwater on the inside and then Bully for his try last week, then against the Warriors Sipley returned to one of his weaknesses in lateral movement and Jazz missed Tuaupiki for that second try yesterday.

With the slowness laterally in a few of the forwards the smaller players will run a muck if allowed.

The threat next week of Starling and Pattie with their speed in the ruck will be a challenge.

 

[Ron E. Gibbs]

100% agree. Sipley and Tevaga are too slow and lazy in defence when under fatigue.

And "under fatigue" seems to mean after the first five minutes - for the whole team.

I couldn't believe how slow our defensive line was against the Cowboys in Round 1, when we'd pretty much had the ball for the entire half and hadn't had to do any tackling at all. And as soon as the Warriors got out to a lead in Round 2, we dropped our heads almost as quickly as we started dropping off tackles.

This team has zero desire to defend. For us to win, we need the ball and we need to keep scoring. As soon as that stops happening, as soon as we meet any resistance whatsoever, we're buggered. It's been like that for years, and it's maddening.

 

[Clivus00]

How long do they pursue with Ben T. So useless that i hate saying that id almost prefer waddell

Only in the team to make his brothers happy. Sick of Jake giving away 6 agains. Bound to get sin binned. Jake and Ben do not win the ruck both in attack or defence. That’s the big issue with this team. Last week Cowboys were able to make easy metres even though we dominated possession because our of our ruck issues. We need a grappling coach.

 

[Seagles68]

And "under fatigue" seems to mean after the first five minutes - for the whole team.

I couldn't believe how slow our defensive line was against the Cowboys in Round 1, when we'd pretty much had the ball for the entire half and hadn't had to do any tackling at all. And as soon as the Warriors got out to a lead in Round 2, we dropped our heads almost as quickly as we started dropping off tackles.

This team has zero desire to defend. For us to win, we need the ball and we need to keep scoring. As soon as that stops happening, as soon as we meet any resistance whatsoever, we're buggered. It's been like that for years, and it's maddening.

And yet in some games we do show some effort and even good scrambling line defence. I just don't get the inconsistency. But line speed is a chronic problem.

 

[Dion Johnson]

I think this is fair but I have great reservations about Lodge.

Edit: Great Lodge reservations sounds like I have somewhere great to stay

I get the reservations on Lodge and rightly so based on most recent form, though for me he hasn’t had enough footy and to do what he did last year after an ACL and Pec tear was good in my opinion.

If he can string some games together and that boxing will help his fitness he may well get back to that imposing form that he showed earlier on.

 

[Seagles68]

I get the reservations on Lodge and rightly so based on most recent form, though for me he hasn’t had enough footy and to do what he did last year after an ACL and Pec tear was good in my opinion.

If he can string some games together and that boxing will help his fitness he may well get back to that imposing form that he showed earlier on.

I guess there's another thread for this discussion (Lodge) but while we're on him - it bothers me that he also has this boxing gig on the side during a footy season. I guess the training would be good for his fitness but I'm not even sure what he's up to. Does he train with the squad? I don't see him in any of the promo material. It doesn't even feel like he's part of the Club at the moment.

Anyway, we could certainly do with a Watmough and/or Gifty in our forward pack right now.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

I’d normally agree with except I put my entire Sportsbet account balance (all $6 of it haha) on the Pennies to dish out more pain to the chooks and what do they go and do….

What were you thinking? Even if they won you'd only collect 10 cents!

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

It doesn't even feel like he's part of the Club at the moment.

He's not. Pretty sure his deal starts a couple of months in and its only a reserve grade contract, not top 30.

 

[ManlyTragic]

Geeez, just proves you don't need a DCE neck to be a goose.

That's just as dumb as Gordie touching a boofhead spectator.

They both might be seen as either a harmless joke and/or backing up a mate but still dumb.

Clearly Neither were recruited for their IQ

Just sayin’

 

[Seagles68]

He's not. Pretty sure his deal starts a couple of months in and its only a reserve grade contract, not top 30.

Oh right. I haven't been keeping up with the Club machinations involving Lodge .

I'm not sure I would persist with him but I have, you know ......... no say in it.

(Late Sunday evening 80's reference there )

 

[Clivus00]

Agreed. Trade for Morgan Harper? Well throw in Ed Kosi for free.

Harper? He has less speed and strength than Garrick. Both our centres lack strength, and footwork to be good centres. Turbo would be great but he’s always injured even at fullback.

 

[Clivus00]

He's there on surname only. Butt average reserve grader. Apart from Olakau'atu we have no edge players suitable for the speed of the game.

Bullemores decent. And I miss brown.

 

[Clivus00]

Mate Paseka & Toff were not the problem last night. Jrbo was the one who was constantly holding down & cause of 6 of the 6 agains! Then 10 in the bin! I cannot understand why he takes so long to get off tackled players. It’s frustrating to watch. I’m at the point that I wish Seibs would drop him to reserves! He constantly does it & puts pressure on the rest of the team in the process! In turn people carry on about the teams lack of effort & bag other players yet think the sun shines out of his ar$e! I’m seriously over him.

The guy is just slow fullstop. Hits it up slow. Gets up slow. He’s past his prime ages ago

 

[Dion Johnson]

He's there on surname only. Butt average reserve grader. Apart from Olakau'atu we have no edge players suitable for the speed of the game.

There will be a time when Dunford gets a chance and hopefully he nails it.