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Stewbojevic

Reserve Grader
It's strange. A grade 3 usually means surgery. I'd imagine any other point in the season would see him out for months. The fact we've got nothing to lose says they'll risk him. It's pretty much Cooper Cronk in the 2018 GF.
I don’t think that’s quite true. Grade 3 means a complete tear, which means there is detachment. It results in more instability than a grade 1 or 2 but there isn’t pain apart from the swelling. Which is why people can play with injections.

Kalyn Ponga had the exact same injury last year and was back in 2 weeks for the finals.

Most people (non sports players) that have a grade 3 AC injury won’t have surgery. But if strengthening the surrounding muscles doesn’t provide the required support for a sports star, they may opt for surgery. He could delay this until the offseason.

In summary, he can play but may not be 100% in contact and is at risk of aggravating it during the games.
 

nightster

The older I get the better I was
Premium Member
Tipping Member
I actually feel Saab has come back slower since the ACL at the end of 22. I also think Koula has slowed a little from a combination of putting on weight to meet the grind of week to week NRL and MCL injury. It seems players always come into FG quicker than they end up. The wear and tear on the body really takes a toll.
Rueben is no slouch too
 

Eagle 1

First Grader
I don’t think that’s quite true. Grade 3 means a complete tear, which means there is detachment. It results in more instability than a grade 1 or 2 but there isn’t pain apart from the swelling. Which is why people can play with injections.

Kalyn Ponga had the exact same injury last year and was back in 2 weeks for the finals.

Most people (non sports players) that have a grade 3 AC injury won’t have surgery. But if strengthening the surrounding muscles doesn’t provide the required support for a sports star, they may opt for surgery. He could delay this until the offseason.

In summary, he can play but may not be 100% in contact and is at risk of aggravating it during the games.
Guess it all depends on how well Tom responds to treatment/physio on the injury. Let's not get all doom and gloom just yet, stranger things have happened.
 

Not Paul Kent

Reserve Grader
In a Grade 3 injury, both the AC and coracoclavicular (CC) ligaments are completely torn, leading to significant instability in the joint.
  • Clavicle Displacement: There is a noticeable bump or elevation where the clavicle is displaced upward, often referred to as a “separated shoulder.”
  • Symptoms: The player would likely experience significant pain, visible deformity, and difficulty moving the shoulder, especially in overhead motions.

### Can He Play in Two Weeks?
1. Immediate Treatment:
- Rest and Immobilization: The player will need to rest the shoulder and may use a sling to keep it immobilized in the short term to manage pain and reduce swelling.
- Pain Management: This may include anti-inflammatory medications and potentially a corticosteroid injection to reduce inflammation and provide temporary pain relief.

2. Short-Term Playability:
- High Risk: Playing with a Grade 3 AC joint injury is risky, as the joint is unstable, and further impact could worsen the injury, potentially leading to chronic issues or the need for surgery.
- Strapping and Support: The shoulder can be heavily strapped to provide extra support, but this does not eliminate the risk of further damage.

3. Surgical Consideration:
- Postponement: Surgery is often recommended for Grade 3 injuries, especially in high-level athletes. However, it’s possible to delay surgery until after the finals, allowing the player to participate with the understanding that surgery may be required afterward.
- Long-Term Impact: Playing through the injury without surgical repair increases the risk of long-term damage and could affect the player’s performance in the future.

### Conclusion:
The player can potentially play in the finals with a Grade 3 AC joint injury, but it comes with significant risks. The decision should be made with careful consideration of the player’s long-term health, and only after a full discussion between the player, medical staff, and coaching team. If the decision is made to play, every possible precaution should be taken, including aggressive pain management, strapping, and limited exposure to contact where feasible.
 

Stewbojevic

Reserve Grader
In a Grade 3 injury, both the AC and coracoclavicular (CC) ligaments are completely torn, leading to significant instability in the joint.
  • Clavicle Displacement: There is a noticeable bump or elevation where the clavicle is displaced upward, often referred to as a “separated shoulder.”
  • Symptoms: The player would likely experience significant pain, visible deformity, and difficulty moving the shoulder, especially in overhead motions.

### Can He Play in Two Weeks?
1. Immediate Treatment:
- Rest and Immobilization: The player will need to rest the shoulder and may use a sling to keep it immobilized in the short term to manage pain and reduce swelling.
- Pain Management: This may include anti-inflammatory medications and potentially a corticosteroid injection to reduce inflammation and provide temporary pain relief.

2. Short-Term Playability:
- High Risk: Playing with a Grade 3 AC joint injury is risky, as the joint is unstable, and further impact could worsen the injury, potentially leading to chronic issues or the need for surgery.
- Strapping and Support: The shoulder can be heavily strapped to provide extra support, but this does not eliminate the risk of further damage.

3. Surgical Consideration:
- Postponement: Surgery is often recommended for Grade 3 injuries, especially in high-level athletes. However, it’s possible to delay surgery until after the finals, allowing the player to participate with the understanding that surgery may be required afterward.
- Long-Term Impact: Playing through the injury without surgical repair increases the risk of long-term damage and could affect the player’s performance in the future.

### Conclusion:
The player can potentially play in the finals with a Grade 3 AC joint injury, but it comes with significant risks. The decision should be made with careful consideration of the player’s long-term health, and only after a full discussion between the player, medical staff, and coaching team. If the decision is made to play, every possible precaution should be taken, including aggressive pain management, strapping, and limited exposure to contact where feasible.
ChatGPT?
 

Kalvin

Bencher
From Nrl physio
 

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mickqld

Sea Eagle forever
Tipping Member
So basically if he does play it's going to be a huge risk and he won't be at 100% Turbo. Once again our season will probably faulter on the back of another Turbo injury.
 

TokyoEagle

Bencher
So basically if he does play it's going to be a huge risk and he won't be at 100% Turbo. Once again our season will probably faulter on the back of another Turbo injury.
Geez, Mick, you must be fun at parties.

If we are being honest, our season will probably falter due to the other teams being more well rounded than us.

Matt Lodge is a boost for us and should provide some go forward as we enter the late rounds and finals.
 
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TokyoEagle

Bencher
Everyone raves about Cherrys incredible run without injury. This is no knock on him but there is no way he puts his body on the line like Tom.
Different positions, different loads. Did you see the hit on Cherry by Kikau? The second dig was a cheap shot that looked to piss DCE off majorly. Some players, Cam Smith being an example, seem to be lucky. Others, not so much. Jake, 'touching wood here', looks to be in the first batch.
 

Hertera

Reserve Grader
It IS a knock on DCE. And it's totally uncalled for.

No it's not anybody who watches the game knows certain players take and give out more punishment than others. To suggest he has played a lot of his career in a dinner suit is not a slur it's an opinion and it doesn't take away from his greatness.

The game has a place for all types.
 

Hibyemama

Reserve Grader
Everyone raves about Cherrys incredible run without injury. This is no knock on him but there is no way he puts his body on the line like Tom.
yes true, this latest AC injury looks eerily like the one he sustained in SOO, when he played centre. It appears he is weak when laterally trying to bring a quick moving player down.
 
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