Daniel said:
Rex said:
Daniel said:
Are you caught in prejudiced thinking world Rex?
Moat people with CP have normal or above average intellect. Theor disability is a palsy whcih has nothing to do with how smart you are.
Disabilities and prejudice against people with them, how they are viewed and how they are treated in our society is sickening.
How did you jump into talking about intellect Dan? Try to stay with the conversation.
What I spoke about was representing Aust in gymnastics or
scoring 99.7 on the HSC.
Oh please you are clutching, don't try to change the context of your plain text. You clearly meant that cerebral palsy sufferers are somehow less able academically, if that isn't what you meant, then your example is a poor one at any rate.
Still not following the conversation Dan? Try to keep up.
Or inconvenient to acknowledge that your simplistic and misdirected outrage was purely for superficial show?
Family friends when I grew up had a son with cerebral palsy - he was called a spastic in those enlightened times. As a youngster I pretty much ignored him assuming he wasn't all there based on the stereotype that was accepted as the truth at the time. Then one day I said something about Manly and his eyes lit up. He was a committed Manly fan, which I didn't know. And as we communicated it became very clear to me that the lights were indeed on. In our conversations it became apparent he was intelligent and understood a lot more about the game than I could have ever imagined.
Cerebral palsy is an injury to the cerebrum, in particular to the connections between the cortex and the cerebellum, and is a disorder of movement. So there is a faulty connection between the desire to action and the ability to take action. To automatically assume that cognition is unaffected by cerbral palsy is also false. It depends.
To equate intelligence with performance on a motor task (99.7 HSC result) Dan, as you are attempting to do for cerebral palsy sufferers, is fundamentally discriminatory.
manlyfan76 said:
Michael Jordan was well on his way to the major leauge when the players strike hit MLB. He was asked to play in place of striking players in the bigs but refused. His numbers sucked early in his minor leauge days but by the end was a vastly improved player and that is evident by his increases in average. His manager at the time terry francona now with Cleveland by way of word series winning Boston Red Sox says with no doubt that MJ would have been a star in the MLB as does some of the top baseball writers even the ones who initially wrote him off are on record as saying such and admitting they got it wrong. Failed miserably to be anywhere near average? You are way off the mark on this call.
Don't facts just ruin a good story.
lol. Very funny reading mf76.
Michael Jordan baseball star - woulda, coulda, shoulda.
In Fatty terms, a Neville nobody.
Jordan played MINOR LEAGUE baseball. At his peak, he developed to play in an off-season league (summer camp) designed for baseball prospects - not actual baseball players.
It's sort of like saying a Toyota cup player who never played top grade would have been a star. Put simply, Jordan saw he wasn't going to make it, quit and returned to his competencies.
So much for Ralphie's theory of everything being mental.
Ralphie said:
Seriously, you are clutching at straws.
The sort of detailed response I'd expect from you Ralphie when you're under challenge.
Superficial diversions and one-liners, like classifying all others into Nanny staters, solely because they express a supported and different opinion to yours.
