The ruck interpretation kills us

[eaglebuzz]

Until we can start winning ugly playing though grinding style of footy like panthers and storm we are never going to get close to a title.

The players are capable of it. They just need to roll up their sleeves and do it week In, week out. I'm hoping that the humiliation from yesterday will light a bit of a fire under them.

 

[castle eagle]

i am sick of seeing and hearing about the team tackle being classed as 'dominant' obviously when there is 4 or 5 defenders against 1 attacker we know who wins.
a dominant tackle should be classed as a 1 on 1 tackle that stops the attacker at the point of contact.
you should be rewarded for that whereas currently you are punished.
as for the 3 or 4 player team tackle - grab him and dance until the ref calls held, then drop him onto his back, then slowly peel off 1 by 1, it should be discouraged. maybe having the ref call held, followed by an agreed amount of time i.e. 3 or 4 or 5 seconds followed by a penalty if they aren't all clear. do it until they learn

 

[Once Was Brissie Kid]

I see Manly lose on both sides of the coin in recent seasons
In attack, opposition like NZ tonight, seem to get away with holding us down.
I feel every supporter can claim this at times, but when it happens to Manly, it continues all game and there are errors and pushed plays in the back of it making it twice as frustrating and gassing out our defence even more.

The only answer, apart from blaming officials which is a No Win situation, is to show more urgency
Manly have a real lack of fight to play the ball and in fact spend more time appealing to the ref than fighting to play it ??
I mean the more you fight to play it quickly, the less time defence has to lay around and can win penalties/ momentum

Secondly in defence, the opposition so often creep off the mark and play it behind our markers...often like NZ tonight and Melbourne get away with it every game and you can bet they practice it and NZ looked up the blueprint tonight


The answer here imo, is the Manly defence have not had enough control in the tackle to totally stop the attacking momentum and the attacking player sets the mark "1 - 2 metres upfield" as they are winning the ruck contest and our markers have not been dominant enough to set the mark....if the defence controls the tackle the marker will "always" be first up and set a mark, but due to the attacker winning this battle, for right or wrong, they then also dictate where the ball is played....Manly need to get on this soon, or every team will take advantage of our gentleman door service at the play the ball area like NZ did tonight and the ruck is always going to be the key to winning footy games

Been saying this for a while. Penrith seem to be all over it. Manly should have spent the off season studying video tape to identify what referees ignore and what they penalise. Then design a team and game to milk their way all the way to the grand final. It isn't rugby league, but those days are sadly gone.