DSM5 link said:
I hope everyone took my advice and put their houses on Brisbane tonight.
Too late DSM. Your devotees are homeless. All lost their houses when you assured them Manly'd be world-beaters without Ox.
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Chip & Chase link said:
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Manly's runs on the board with/without Orford:
Prior 2005 - No Ox - no semis
2005 - No Ox - 8th, thrashed
2006 - Ox - 5th
2007 - Ox - 2nd (actually 1st)
2008 - Ox - 1st ... Biggest GF win ever
2009 - Ox - 5th
2010 - No Ox - 8th, thrashed
Don't let the truth get in the way of your theory. 2009 - Ox - 5th ? Shouldn't that read 2009 - Ox - 5th, thrashed ??
Maybe in your book getting 40 put on you in a semi isn't a thrashing.....but it is in mine.
We got owned by Dragons in 2006 as well.
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Five points C&C:
1. The 2009 semi was an aberration in the context of that season and wouldn't even have been an elimination semi except for Gallop's treatment of Stewart.Â
2. Who doubts Manly's thoughts and emotions were elsewhere that day for obvious reasons. They're only human.
3. Only freakish results in other games ended Manly's season.
4. The records do say Manly lost 40-12 to the salary cap cheats who went on to win the premiership. And without the cheats are you sure we wouldn't have won that year?
5. In both 2005 & 2010 we barely scraped into the semis in the last round, didn't ever deserve to be there, were absolutely no hope, and in most supporters eyes were guaranteed of being thrashed before the games even started. Quite different to 2009.
But if you don't like the thrashed bit, then delete it. The results speak for themselves.