The NRL and follow the leader

[Dan]

Why is it that this NRL commission and board have to try to model everything they do after what someone else is doing?
Since when has "they are doing it successfully in another state, so this should work here" been a good business model?

The game this week should be a Manly Sea Eagles home game at Brookvale and we should be taking all of the advantage from that, instead you have two clubs from the opposite side of Sydney and extremes of Sydney that have to travel to meet in the middle on neutral ground. Whether a stadium holds 80, or 20 thousand does not matter, let supporters cram in as a full brookie oval looks better than a half full Allianz stadium.

It is about time that the league started worrying about its assets and the good parts of the game rather than watching what the NRL have done and trying to model themselves off of that.

The toughness of the sport is the one thing that separates it from the other codes in Australia, rather than trying to put tribal nature, the savagery and the brutality of the game on hold and quash it, they should be highlighting it, it is what we as fans love. They should be celebrating that of all games League translates to audiences across all forms of media better than any other sport.

There are so many great things about this game, and it seems that the focus for the people running the comp is not in the right place and instead is only worried about doing the same thing the AFL has, as some kind of business model that just won't work.

 

[manlyfan76]

Last weeks double header, if split up would have seen 20,000 at Brookvale for one game and a full house at Shark Park aka whatever its called now. It would have been a great day of League. If im not wrong the NRL not the clubs get all the money from finals sales so they will always go for bigger stadium and just hope they are filled. Just like everyone agrees that a top 8 is too many teams in a final series but it means more finals and more ticket sales for the NRL.

 

[MissKate]

and this is what we are paying all these fat cats big bucks for - nothing new

they use the same mentality as our local council who think if you don't make developers provide off street parking then the people buying those properties will all sell their cars and use public transport.

So if we move the game to a huge stadium for 40/80k people then that is how many people will turn up, and if we hike the ticket prices up even higher even more people will want to attend - righty-oh!

 

[Dan]

A top 7 with a similr setup to the old top 5 would be ideal for this league, or a top 6 even

 

[Brookie Brawler]

A top 7 with a similr setup to the old top 5 would be ideal for this league, or a top 6 even

The main reason to have a finals series (apart from the cynical sell more tickets line of thinking) is because the regular season draw is not fair to all sides.

The top 5 was the best system IMO because it favoured the minor premier and while teams 4 and 5 still had a chance they were up against it.

In any given year (2013 certainly being no exception) teams 6-8 don't really deserve a shot at a premiership based on their results through the year.

Also in the top 5 every game was massive, making the finals was a great achievement and the crowds reflected that.

I don't remember the SFS ever being half full in the early 90s even when out of Sydney teams had to play there.

 

[The Who]

Television scheduling has a lot to do with the low crowds at finals.
Day-time matches would draw larger crowds than night finals.

 

[CAMBO]

You would like to think once brookvale is up to standard we could push for home semis.

Apparently we now have 20 mil of the 30 mil required.

10 mil that albo promised was not determined by the result of the election so we get that and Prime Minister Abbotts promised 10 mil

 

[Killer03]

I don't want to be seen as just parroting Paul Kent on NRL 360, but he was going off about the Double Header and how the entertainment was some old legends singing. He came up with 4 or 5 things that could have happened in between the Sharks and Sea Eagles game last week, and some were quite good.

I just don't see the NRL doing anything currently to improve the product. Marketing/Administration seems to be pretty ordinary, and the constant thing we keep hearing from the NRL is 'we need to grow the game' blah blah blah. And all that seems to mean is, lets remove the gladiatorial aspect out of the game because Mummy wont like it. I really don't see how this is going to grow the game? It's the brutality and tribalness of Rugby League which people love. I'm not talking about mindless thuggery, but we seem to keep wanting to turn League into tip on the premise of 'growing the game'.

 

[bones]

It is about time that the league started worrying about its assets and the good parts of the game rather than watching what the NRL have done and trying to model themselves off of that.

AFL

 

[The Who]

You would like to think once brookvale is up to standard we could push for home semis.

Apparently we now have 20 mil of the 30 mil required.

10 mil that albo promised was not determined by the result of the election so we get that and Prime Minister Abbotts promised 10 mil

How can the Labor Party give us $10-m now they are not in power?

 

[master blaster]

Why is it that this NRL commission and board have to try to model everything they do after what someone else is doing?
Since when has "they are doing it successfully in another state, so this should work here" been a good business model?

The game this week should be a Manly Sea Eagles home game at Brookvale and we should be taking all of the advantage from that, instead you have two clubs from the opposite side of Sydney and extremes of Sydney that have to travel to meet in the middle on neutral ground. Whether a stadium holds 80, or 20 thousand does not matter, let supporters cram in as a full brookie oval looks better than a half full Allianz stadium.

It is about time that the league started worrying about its assets and the good parts of the game rather than watching what the NRL have done and trying to model themselves off of that.

The toughness of the sport is the one thing that separates it from the other codes in Australia, rather than trying to put tribal nature, the savagery and the brutality of the game on hold and quash it, they should be highlighting it, it is what we as fans love. They should be celebrating that of all games League translates to audiences across all forms of media better than any other sport.

There are so many great things about this game, and it seems that the focus for the people running the comp is not in the right place and instead is only worried about doing the same thing the AFL has, as some kind of business model that just won't work.

it always seems,that when we earn an advantage,we never end up getting it

 

[CAMBO]

You would like to think once brookvale is up to standard we could push for home semis.

Apparently we now have 20 mil of the 30 mil required.

10 mil that albo promised was not determined by the result of the election so we get that and Prime Minister Abbotts promised 10 mil

How can the Labor Party give us $10-m now they are not in power?

What albo announced wasn't an election promise apparently it was money granted while they were still in government.

 

[Jock]

Yes, but Abbott was talking about the same 10M, not another 10M

 

[DSM5]

Yep, it's only 10 million. I guess Souffs won't get the twenty that Albo promised them on the night he was made a life member.

 

[mickqld]

I don't remember the SFS ever being half full in the early 90s even when out of Sydney teams had to play there.

Sorry there were plenty of finals games at SFS in early 90's that were only half full. Saw one on Foxsports the other day Penrith v Raiders from 91 that had about 20000 crowd there maybe less.

 

[CAMBO]

Yes, but Abbott was talking about the same 10M, not another 10M

No mate you are wrong. Go and listen to the NRL unleashed podcast last week. Zorba explains it in detail.

We have 20 million.

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/northern-beaches/federal-government-promises-10-million-for-brookvale-oval-revamp/story-fngr8hax-1226692274965

THE Labor Party has brought the federal election to Tony Abbott's doorstep with a $10 million commitment towards the upgrade of Brookvale Oval.

Deputy Prime Minister Anthony Albanese made the announcement this afternoon, which will help ensure the future of the Sea Eagles' home ground.

The money will go towards a proposed $30 million covered grandstand on the eastern side of the oval which will seat 4350.

The funding will be provided regardless of who wins the election.

Mr Albanese said the money had come from money put aside in the government's budget in May.

That money was already there before the election as the part that says it was put aside in May alludes to.

I hope that clears things up. They still need another 10 mil to get the 30.

 

[COMMANDER]

Sadly the NRL owns the finals series games. If you make it to the finals you have to play by there rules.

If we were to play our games at Brookie it's because they would schedule "their" game to be played there.

My big thing is the regional break up that sometimes allows a team like Melbourne to sit in Melbourne until GF day.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

I'm sure it was part of the 'billion dollar TV rights deal' that the league gave pretty much all scheduling decisions to the broadcasters. Great plan.

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

Assuming that $20 million figure is correct, you could do a lot with the ground other than build the new stand. Brand new pitch. New perimeter fencing and seating. The eastern extension of the JT and Arko stands. A permanent video screen. An upper deck in the JT stand. New media boxes and further improvements to corporate facilities in both the older stands, plus expanded dressing rooms. Convert the northern hill to terraced seating. The list goes on!

 

[Mals]

Warringah Council will kick in the remaining $10m needed (lol)