Stripping The Ball Question

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Eagles2nv

DESpicable Manly
They way I understand it is if a one on one player drops off the tackle and then another strips the ball one on one then it's considered a one on one strip.

But if the initial tackle was 2 people and they both fell off and then a 3rd player strips the ball one on one it's considered a penalty.

Personally I think that is a poor rule becuse the initial player impacts the play. DCE momentum was stopped by the first players failed tackle which gave mitchell momentum.
 

MissKate

Bencher
Premium Member
Most of the rules are written in the same way, they are very vague and usually contradict themselves. This gives the refs an easy job to interpret them any way they choose and that no one can complain that the ref got the ruling wrong as archer will just twist the interpretation around to fit the call the refs made.

nrl koala club corruption and incompetence at its best
 

Mal Cochrane

I'm not really Mal Cochrane...
They way I understand it is if a one on one player drops off the tackle and then another strips the ball one on one then it's considered a one on one strip.

But if the initial tackle was 2 people and they both fell off and then a 3rd player strips the ball one on one it's considered a penalty.

Personally I think that is a poor rule becuse the initial player impacts the play. DCE momentum was stopped by the first players failed tackle which gave mitchell momentum.

and then they have to adjudicate on split second stuff...too grey.

Also what is annoying is in the tackle when someone is just trying to wrap the ball up and in the fall or struggle the ball comes loose. There is a difference, but again this rule is so grey, they need to rule on any dropped ball where the defender was around the ball.
 

Michael Clare

Reserve Grader
Apart from the dreaded ruck and play the ball, the "strip the ball" rule has caused more discussion and controversy than any other aspect of the game in recent years. So many fifty-fifty calls with players dropping the ball or having it stripped. Games consistently won and lost on inconsistent refereeing decisions. I genuinely loathe this current rule - surely more responsibility must fall on the player with the ball, but admit it's possible those massive forward packs would possibly rip it out without the strip rule being in place.

My contention is that the three man gang tackle ought to be banned (maximum of two only) and the strip allowed. This rule change would also fix up the ruck area in my opinion and ought to be explored.
 

Michael Clare

Reserve Grader
Apart from the dreaded ruck and play the ball, the "strip the ball" rule has caused more discussion and controversy than any other aspect of the game in recent years. So many fifty-fifty calls with players dropping the ball or having it stripped. Games consistently won and lost on inconsistent refereeing decisions. I genuinely loathe this current rule - surely more responsibility must fall on the player with the ball, but admit it's possible those massive forward packs would possibly rip it out without the strip rule being in place.

My contention is that the three man gang tackle ought to be banned (maximum of two only) and the strip allowed. This rule change might also help clean up the ruck area and ought to be explored.
 
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Deleted member 26876

Guest
Is anyone as satisfied as I am with the fact that "master coach, career transformer" Craig Bellamy couldn't turn myles's form around through his 'magic'. Myles rumoured to be off to the super league in 2018, although I reckon he'd stay as tessa has a job in Melbourne doesn't she
 

Eagles2nv

DESpicable Manly
and then they have to adjudicate on split second stuff...too grey.

Also what is annoying is in the tackle when someone is just trying to wrap the ball up and in the fall or struggle the ball comes loose. There is a difference, but again this rule is so grey, they need to rule on any dropped ball where the defender was around the ball.

To help with the grey, you make a rule that the first player who makes contact has the opportunity for the one on one strip and anything after that is a penalty.

Obviously the strip rule over the trylinr is the only exception. But that rule is reasonably black and white.
 

mave

First Grader
Premium Member
Tipping Member
Wasn't there an instance in the 4 o'clock game where the first dropped off the second in stripped and was penalised?? Anyone else see that??

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The attacker was in contact with 2 defenders as the ball was stripped.
The 2nd defender still had fingers on the attacker, albeit just.
 

Shoe1

Journey Man
Is anyone as satisfied as I am with the fact that "master coach, career transformer" Craig Bellamy couldn't turn myles's form around through his 'magic'. Myles rumoured to be off to the super league in 2018, although I reckon he'd stay as tessa has a job in Melbourne doesn't she
She has signed a 3 year deal with eastenders
 

bob dylan

First Grader
Premium Member
Tipping Member
bob, with 3, 110kg footballers with arms like Kapow holding you up whilst one pulls the arm holding the ball away from the body and the other two grab the ball ... it is a contest no ball carrier can win.

It was always in the game. Noel Cleal was a master of the lost art. Like most things if the defender was unsuccessful a smack in the mouth was often the deterrent.

It is like striking for the ball in the play the ball. Ian Roberts was a master at this.

The game is poorer for these rule changes.
 

maxta

First Grader
Premium Member
I have no problem with this try being allowed.
If Mitchell was involved at the same time as the first or 2nd defender. - no try.
Because they had fallen off it was back to 1 tackler...making it 1 on 1.
Do feel confused though, have seen a few games the past 2 years where a player has dropped off...another player then makes contact and steals 1 on 1 only to be penalised.
It's as usual ...inconsistency...and Manly on the end of it.
Refs have different comprehension and interpretations of the rules, with the inconsistency only compiled by having 2 refs....
 

Class of 96

Bencher
Legit strip under the rules, and commonsense.

However, I don't like the rule at all. For those screaming for more ball security, consider this. Do you really want players concentrating 100% on holding the ball to the point of wrapping both arms around the pill? All that does is stifle any creativity in the game. That and you are always vulnerable tucking the ball under one arm while being attacked by 2.

My view is outlaw the strip, it's a blight on the game.
 

Ryan

Journey Man
We've had a few happen to us in the past 2-3 weeks (happened to Wright as well) so I hope we are on alert with it.

We rarely seem to be a stripping type of team because all we have to do is LOOK at the ball in the ruck, and the refs are blowing a penalty against us.
 
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Shnorky

Guest
I've been having an issue accepting that strip on DCE as the right call.

Matterson has a shot at stripping it in an attempt at tackling DCE, drops off, Tupou then has a shot at tackling, hits, thendrops off as DCE steps away from him into Mitchell, who, as the third attempted tackler rakes it away and scores.

I supplement that with they were never on DCE at the same time.

Was that a fair try, or no?
I see the same tbing hapoened tonight slime one on one strip v knights ang got penalised. So if it against manly its ok but otherwise not
 

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