Sipley Superleague Surprise Signing?

Not very confident in the Manly hierarchy signing any forwards equivalent or better. I have zero faith in any signings to be honest. All I read in here is all the bright sparks suggesting we get rid of Saab, Koula, Garrick in order to improve our cap position & sign a prominent forward. All 3 are not on anything close to the $700k being bandied about by people here! I recall Garrick resigning for approx $550k & Koula $500k & Saab around $350k!!! Yet those same people cream at the thought of resigning the Trbos!! I guess decimate our backs to buy forwards. Rob Peter to pay Paul so to speak. Those same people will all whine & moan & bitch when we don’t improve from where we are now & play the blame game again! The coach, the forwards, the backs etc. are useless. It’d be sad to watch any of Saab, Koula, Garrick play for other teams & kick our arses but hey the experts say we should release them. I guess they all know the intricacies of salary cap management, talent awareness, player abilities, what the club needs to improve! Release our better players & keep injury prone, slow, limited players. DCE going & Fogarty arriving is a step in the right direction, however with Aloiai retiring, Sipley going to SL plus other players not being resigned we should be capable of enticing an experienced forward or two to the club. We’ve signed a couple of youngsters from other clubs (Bryan) & we have a few of our own ready to step up (Laiafi, Pua’avase). Add to that possibly Mooney, Fermor, at not exorbitant salaries I’d imagine, & we could field a pretty formidable pack next year. Paseka, Olakau’atu, Bullemore, Brbo along with experienced TKO, Lodge & Jrbo. No need to release any backs!!!! But hey I know jack$hit!
 
Not very confident in the Manly hierarchy signing any forwards equivalent or better. I have zero faith in any signings to be honest. All I read in here is all the bright sparks suggesting we get rid of Saab, Koula, Garrick in order to improve our cap position & sign a prominent forward. All 3 are not on anything close to the $700k being bandied about by people here! I recall Garrick resigning for approx $550k & Koula $500k & Saab around $350k!!! Yet those same people cream at the thought of resigning the Trbos!! I guess decimate our backs to buy forwards. Rob Peter to pay Paul so to speak. Those same people will all whine & moan & bitch when we don’t improve from where we are now & play the blame game again! The coach, the forwards, the backs etc. are useless. It’d be sad to watch any of Saab, Koula, Garrick play for other teams & kick our arses but hey the experts say we should release them. I guess they all know the intricacies of salary cap management, talent awareness, player abilities, what the club needs to improve! Release our better players & keep injury prone, slow, limited players. DCE going & Fogarty arriving is a step in the right direction, however with Aloiai retiring, Sipley going to SL plus other players not being resigned we should be capable of enticing an experienced forward or two to the club. We’ve signed a couple of youngsters from other clubs (Bryan) & we have a few of our own ready to step up (Laiafi, Pua’avase). Add to that possibly Mooney, Fermor, at not exorbitant salaries I’d imagine, & we could field a pretty formidable pack next year. Paseka, Olakau’atu, Bullemore, Brbo along with experienced TKO, Lodge & Jrbo. No need to release any backs!!!! But hey I know jack$hit!
Wow you seem quite upset, you all good?

I think for the most part people are discussing potential options and prople have different opinions. It the end nobody here has any say so it really matters little.

A lot of the talk the last day or two particularly relating to Garrick is more about matching large offers.

Now, I love Garrick, want him to stay, but if Perth came in and offered, say, 800k plus I personally wouldn't match it considering we have Talau who could cover the loss.

Would I like it, nah would be terrible to see him in the Bears colours, but I can see us balance the cap better.

If he was happy to stay on what he is on now....sign me up.
 
Not very confident in the Manly hierarchy signing any forwards equivalent or better. I have zero faith in any signings to be honest. All I read in here is all the bright sparks suggesting we get rid of Saab, Koula, Garrick in order to improve our cap position & sign a prominent forward. All 3 are not on anything close to the $700k being bandied about by people here! I recall Garrick resigning for approx $550k & Koula $500k & Saab around $350k!!! Yet those same people cream at the thought of resigning the Trbos!! I guess decimate our backs to buy forwards. Rob Peter to pay Paul so to speak. Those same people will all whine & moan & bitch when we don’t improve from where we are now & play the blame game again! The coach, the forwards, the backs etc. are useless. It’d be sad to watch any of Saab, Koula, Garrick play for other teams & kick our arses but hey the experts say we should release them. I guess they all know the intricacies of salary cap management, talent awareness, player abilities, what the club needs to improve! Release our better players & keep injury prone, slow, limited players. DCE going & Fogarty arriving is a step in the right direction, however with Aloiai retiring, Sipley going to SL plus other players not being resigned we should be capable of enticing an experienced forward or two to the club. We’ve signed a couple of youngsters from other clubs (Bryan) & we have a few of our own ready to step up (Laiafi, Pua’avase). Add to that possibly Mooney, Fermor, at not exorbitant salaries I’d imagine, & we could field a pretty formidable pack next year. Paseka, Olakau’atu, Bullemore, Brbo along with experienced TKO, Lodge & Jrbo. No need to release any backs!!!! But hey I know jack$hit!
Our past successes were proven to be contributed by major signings.
Obviously the Penns don’t believe in the saying”you have to spend money to make money”
The signing of Fogarty is a great acquisition but unless we have the forwards to pave the way to show his worthiness it’s not going to happen.
I can only see the mediocrity continuing ,but hopefully I’m proven wrong.
 
Our past successes were proven to be contributed by major signings.
Obviously the Penns don’t believe in the saying”you have to spend money to make money”
The signing of Fogarty is a great acquisition but unless we have the forwards to pave the way to show his worthiness it’s not going to happen.
I can only see the mediocrity continuing ,but hopefully I’m proven wrong.
As you’re talking about “major signings”,what do the Penn’s have to do with spending money?
 
Not very confident in the Manly hierarchy signing any forwards equivalent or better. I have zero faith in any signings to be honest. All I read in here is all the bright sparks suggesting we get rid of Saab, Koula, Garrick in order to improve our cap position & sign a prominent forward. All 3 are not on anything close to the $700k being bandied about by people here! I recall Garrick resigning for approx $550k & Koula $500k & Saab around $350k!!! Yet those same people cream at the thought of resigning the Trbos!! I guess decimate our backs to buy forwards. Rob Peter to pay Paul so to speak. Those same people will all whine & moan & bitch when we don’t improve from where we are now & play the blame game again! The coach, the forwards, the backs etc. are useless. It’d be sad to watch any of Saab, Koula, Garrick play for other teams & kick our arses but hey the experts say we should release them. I guess they all know the intricacies of salary cap management, talent awareness, player abilities, what the club needs to improve! Release our better players & keep injury prone, slow, limited players. DCE going & Fogarty arriving is a step in the right direction, however with Aloiai retiring, Sipley going to SL plus other players not being resigned we should be capable of enticing an experienced forward or two to the club. We’ve signed a couple of youngsters from other clubs (Bryan) & we have a few of our own ready to step up (Laiafi, Pua’avase). Add to that possibly Mooney, Fermor, at not exorbitant salaries I’d imagine, & we could field a pretty formidable pack next year. Paseka, Olakau’atu, Bullemore, Brbo along with experienced TKO, Lodge & Jrbo. No need to release any backs!!!! But hey I know jack$hit!
Yeah i would say you are pretty accurate on what i recall on those salaries - Garrick 550k-600k, Koula about the same and Saab $350k looks right.
 
Yeah i would say you are pretty accurate on what i recall on those salaries - Garrick 550k-600k, Koula about the same and Saab $350k looks right.

Koula is also on a health contract as he was being chased by Australian Rugby by Eddie (The Traitor) Jones. Would be on way more than $350k
 
Koula is also on a health contract as he was being chased by Australian Rugby by Eddie (The Traitor) Jones. Would be on way more than $350k
Agreed.... If it wasn't clear in my post I said same as Garrick around $550-$600k
 
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I agree with @bob dylan & @Disco - Toff is a value player I'm hoping it means Laiafi gets promoted and or Sykes, as that shouldn't cost anything, and finally gives some of young players some incentive.
Rueben is a faourite but if he receives overs offers from the bears say $1mill and over, then we're letting go with some sadness and blessings, good on him - he has been underappreciated on here, but Fogarty can kick, and I'd move Koula to fullback and Lehi to wing or centre, its a pity he wasn't a bit bigger all round, all heart and effort but so many backs now are tall and solid.
 

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