Same old mistakes by the same old players

[Jigzkiller]

If my daughter or sister thought enough of him, to be still with him and to have forgiven him ... I would that into consideration, keep my mouth shut, and wish them the best for the future ...

but that is just me ....

Fair points Woodsie and most do keep mouth shut and than regret it when the next piece of violence is the last. Anyway I'll stop hijacking the thread.