Sack Spoony Siebold

Why are we sacking him this week? We don't even have a game!
(and last week we beat the 4 time defending premiers)
The defending premiers perspective time ....

The defending Premiers who are last placed on the Ladder
and who are defending their title without these premiership winning players of theirs
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Goes to show the value of weight in his comments

Nothing quite as humorous as a poster just simply contradicting themselves on the same page, whilst on yet another mindless rant.
 
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There’s more black and white arguments in the face of shades of grey. It’s not the coach OR the players, it’s the coach AND the players. It’s a relationship that requires both parties to do their job well to be successful. It’s never just one or the other when things fail. There are too many variables for that.
A gazillion percent ...... it's also the front office managing the cap and the owners having the right people supporting the coach and the players.. The poor bloody coach is more often than not the scapegoat for everyone else's failures. The coach is the problem argument is just too simplistic but it fits @BOZO understanding
 
Is there a better backline in the comp than Manly?
Add Jake + Ola, we have a pretty damn good team.

At the start of this 2025 season, using metrics provided by the independent NRL data partner and circulated amongst two player management agencies, compiled under a specific engagement requirement shared by those two agencies, our starting backline of:

Tom Trbojevic
Jason Saab
Tolutau Koula
Reuben Garrick
Lehi Hopoate ** Tommy Talau **

Was ranked 5th

The rest of the squad:

Luke Brooks
Daly Cherry-Evans

Ranked 6th

Taniela Paseka
Lachlan Croker
Josh Aloiai
Haumole Olakau'atu
Ben Trbojevic
Jake Trbojevic

Ethan Bullemor
Nathan Brown
Toafofoa Sipley
Jazz Tavega

Ranked 8th.

Interestingly, this data is shared with coaches and their football department where they don't have access to certain data or the time to complete their own quantitative research and analysis.

I hope this helps
 
At the start of this 2025 season, using metrics provided by the independent NRL data partner and circulated amongst two player management agencies, compiled under a specific engagement requirement shared by those two agencies, our starting backline of:

Tom Trbojevic
Jason Saab
Tolutau Koula
Reuben Garrick
Lehi Hopoate ** Tommy Talau **

Was ranked 5th

The rest of the squad:

Luke Brooks
Daly Cherry-Evans

Ranked 6th

Taniela Paseka
Lachlan Croker
Josh Aloiai
Haumole Olakau'atu
Ben Trbojevic
Jake Trbojevic

Ethan Bullemor
Nathan Brown
Toafofoa Sipley
Jazz Tavega

Ranked 8th.

Interestingly, this data is shared with coaches and their football department where they don't have access to certain data or the time to complete their own quantitative research and analysis.

I hope this helps

Who are the top 4 according to independent experts?
 
Who are the top 4 according to independent experts?

Melbourne
Brisbane
Bulldogs
Panthers

Note: This is weighted data set based on the complete 2024 season, along with a formula taking into account individual players who may have moved clubs in the off-season and integrating their individual data into their new club for 2025.

I find it very interesting that the Bulldogs ranked as high as 3rd and the Panthers 4th... Out of those 4, 2 are performing well, the other 2 not too well at all.

We have the backline, I firmly believe that our forwards should be much lower than 8th (interestingly, the Warriors pack was ranked 11th and Tigers 12th).
 
There’s more black and white arguments in the face of shades of grey. It’s not the coach OR the players, it’s the coach AND the players. It’s a relationship that requires both parties to do their job well to be successful. It’s never just one or the other when things fail. There are too many variables for that.
No black and white or shades of grey here . All parties are united
Both Penn and Mestrov have backed Seibold and have even extended his contract
Seibold has agreed to terms and agreed to take the playing group on
Now its up to Seibs to Deliver
No Excuses
 
The quicker the better.

Picking Jake and Takiarto to start the game was brainless - less punch than zero alcohol beer.
Picking Waddell and ignoring young players like Navale is criminal
Management of the bench- crap
Zero game plan against teams.
No plan B if our touch footy out the back doesn't work.
 
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The quicker the better.

Picking Jake and Takiarto to start the game was brainless - less punch than zero alcohol beer.
Picking Waddell and ignoring young players like Navale is criminal
Management of the bench- crap
Zero game plan against teams.
No plan B if our touch footy out the back doesn't work.
The biggest problem with Spoon (and there are many) is his inability to have us raring to go in big games. We are regularly missing the jump. He has never won a thing as a coach. Even Demetriou had him covered in the lower grades. He is the whisperer of gobblety dook, cok a hoo ha.

We will never win a competition with this guy as head coach.
 
Surely Seinfeld must be getting worried and he has to have performance clauses in his last contract extensionwhich wouldnt be making him feel good, so show some spine spoony and make some tough decisions, NOW
 
Surely Seinfeld must be getting worried and he has to have performance clauses in his last contract extensionwhich wouldnt be making him feel good, so show some spine spoony and make some tough decisions, NOW

Totally agree

If Navale doesn't come onto the bench, I don't know what to say.

Hoping Aloiai is fit. Not sure what else to do with the cattle we have.

Imagine how valuable to us Samuela Fainu would be now.
 
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The biggest problem with Spoon (and there are many) is his inability to have us raring to go in big games. We are regularly missing the jump. He has never won a thing as a coach. Even Demetriou had him covered in the lower grades. He is the whisperer of gobblety dook, cok a hoo ha.

We will never win a competition with this guy as head coach.
I have never heard him say anything vaguely inspirational, so you can imagine what his pregame “pep” talks are like. “Let’s set the tone early and play to our strengths”. Makes you want to run through brick walls doesn’t it. I wonder what bozo used to say to Mark Carroll before games. Actually, we could probably do worse that give MC a 10 minute stint every game, instead of having Clayton warm a bench seat.
 
The biggest problem with Spoon (and there are many) is his inability to have us raring to go in big games. We are regularly missing the jump. He has never won a thing as a coach. Even Demetriou had him covered in the lower grades. He is the whisperer of gobblety dook, cok a hoo ha.

We will never win a competition with this guy as head coach.
Don’t really want to get into whether he should be sacked or not. I don’t rate him, nor does anyone from up North who knows the guys coaching history but that’s just an opinion. Others may differ but what I want to know is

WHY THE **** DID WE EXTEND HIM?

Noone was chasing him , his results were average and his reputation in the game is hardly glowing.

Just let him see out his contract and go from there. Now we are stuck with him or a big payout for no reason if this season is a failure.
I just don’t get it
Not one club had any interest and why would they
 

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