Sack Seibold.

[The '47ers]

We should be sacking Seibold, Hales, Lambkin, Dymock, and now Weeden. Why? None of them have any history at Manly and it shows.

Seibold might live in the area but he is a Queenslander who played for Canberra and the London Broncos.

Hales was a Wests Magpie junior that didn’t make the grade.

Dymock is a Bulldog/Eel.

Lambkin was a Magpie. I know he won an u/20s Comp with us but he is still not a Manly person.

Weeden never even played rugby league and has never had anything to do with our club.

Suddenly the future of our clubs rests in the hands of people that have no deep love for it, but rather, want jobs in the NRL.

Like Bellamy is from Melbourne and played for Storm
Like Cleary is from Penrith and played for them
Like Craig Fitzgibbon,Like Bennett ....

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

Like Bellamy is from Melbourne and played for Storm
Like Cleary is from Penrith and played for them
Like Craig Fitzgibbon,Like Bennett ....

Leonard’s point is that what works best for Manly* is a former Manly player coaching the first grade side. We all know that the club’s greatest successes have come about when that is the case.**

The records don’t lie. Eight first grade premierships, with the coach in each case being a former Manly player. 11 times as runners-up, again with a Manly man at the helm on each occasion.

The facts might change at some point. Who knows, maybe Seibold, or someone like him, will coach Manly to a premiership in future. However it hasn’t happened yet.

*What happens at other clubs is irrelevant.

**Or it should.

 

[Rocky]

Leonard’s point is that what works best for Manly* is a former Manly player coaching the first grade side. We all know that the club’s greatest successes have come about when that is the case.**

The records don’t lie. Eight first grade premierships, with the coach in each case being a former Manly player. 11 times as runners-up, again with a Manly man at the helm on each occasion.

The facts might change at some point. Who knows, maybe Seibold, or someone like him, will coach Manly to a premiership in future. However it hasn’t happened yet.

*What happens at other clubs is irrelevant.

**Or it should.

Has a mediocre coach ever coached Manly to a premiership?

In my lifetime it was Bob Fulton and Des Hasler - both coaching legends.

So unless there is an outstanding candidate with Manly DNA, then prefer they get a more credentialed coach from elsewhere.

 

[Scorpio]

For whatever reason I don't think Ballin's coaching stint at Blacktown worked very well.

As for other "home grown" coaching options, there's not too many obvious ones I'm aware of:

Brent Kite - Was coaching with some success in Northern NSW, but somewhat strangely went off the rails a bit.
Michael Monaghan - Currently Des' assistant at the Titans.
Geoff Toovey - Won't happen and he isn't the solution anyway.
Brett Fulton - Won a fair bit with pretty stacked junior teams, not sure where he is coaching now though.

Brett Stewart is in the club in some role at the club currently, but I'm not sure he'd want to coach.
Glenn Stewart struck me as the 'on-field' leader but I'm not sure he'd want to coach either. Anthony Watmough is the club's Sydney Shield coach, but hard to assess as he's only had 5 games in charge so far.

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

For whatever reason I don't think Ballin's coaching stint at Blacktown worked very well.

As for other "home grown" coaching options, there's not too many obvious ones I'm aware of:

Brent Kite - Was coaching with some success in Northern NSW, but somewhat strangely went off the rails a bit.
Michael Monaghan - Currently Des' assistant at the Titans.
Geoff Toovey - Won't happen and he isn't the solution anyway.
Brett Fulton - Won a fair bit with pretty stacked junior teams, not sure where he is coaching now though.

Brett Stewart is in the club in some role at the club currently, but I'm not sure he'd want to coach.
Glenn Stewart struck me as the 'on-field' leader but I'm not sure he'd want to coach either. Anthony Watmough is the club's Sydney Shield coach, but hard to assess as he's only had 5 games in charge so far.

I agree.

We’re not likely to see a well-credentialled ex-Manly player filling the role anytime soon.

That’s why we have to hope that Seibold, or someone of similar ilk, can create history.

 

[Uber Eagle 72]

It won’t happen! they are still trying to sort out Des’s severance. I think we are struck with until the end of next year. Anyways this season is still far from over for us!

 

[LeonardCohen]

Like Bellamy is from Melbourne and played for Storm
Like Cleary is from Penrith and played for them
Like Craig Fitzgibbon,Like Bennett ....

I think if you kept reading my post, I indicated that the entire game consists of mercenaries. However, it's usually a faction of outsiders, with the club itself still comprising some genuine affiliates.

In saying that, the issue I have is probably not so much where these people came from, rather that they're not very good.