RUGBY LEAGUE WORLD CUP thread

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Lame o, Crocker gets picked but Bell not 'because he's going overseas'?  wtf, I thought Croker was as well.  I'll be surprised if this comp gets of the ground.  The only exciting game might be the Aboriginal v Maori game.  Play it at Henson and I'd go.  Why would Lyon play when there's pigs to shoot.  Way to hot for the Poms.   
 
League World Cup never a contender

By Rebecca Wilson
October 18, 2008
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegrap...017479,00.html

WHILE the Socceroos continued on their almost perfect road to the World Cup this week, the Australian rugby league team was busy preparing for what must surely be the greatest non-event of all time - the World Cup of rugby league.
Soccer's four-yearly celebration is one of the showpieces of world sport. It is right up there with the Olympic Games and fanatics could quite rightfully argue it is even bigger than the five-ring circus.
To qualify for football's World Cup is a massive achievement. It takes months and months of jumping through hoops to earn your ticket.
Sadly, the same cannot be said for the league event. For those of you who don't know, the 18-match tournament starts in Sydney next week.
It features teams from such league superpowers as Scotland and Tonga. They will play a round-robin competition in league strongholds along the eastern seaboard. Sadly, one of only two games that matters in the entire tournament - Australia versus England - will be played in Melbourne. And we all know how much Melbourne loves its league.
I am a huge rugby league fan. For about 26 weekends a year, I am glued to the box watching the best league competition in the world - the National Rugby League.
When it's over, though, it's bloody well over. As soon as the long weekend passes, we hang up our league and AFL boots and replace them with cricket pads or jockey silks.
The last thing we need in October and November at the end of a very, very long football season is a meaningless league tournament played in front of crowds (I use that term loosely) who really don't care about the outcome.
There are three nations who play league at any sort of elite level. Australia, New Zealand and England are the trio of countries in which rugby league is played at club level in quite large numbers.
Tonga, Scotland, Ireland and Fiji are rugby union and soccer strongholds. The likelihood that participation in a league World Cup will in any way change the status quo in any of these countries is very, very low.
Then there is the dilemma facing television directors - how to conceal empty stands from the audience watching Ireland play Tonga at Parramatta Stadium. Unless they start giving the tickets away now, and promising a free carton of beer with them, no one can honestly expect a crowd to front.
This can only mean one thing. Rugby league suffers from a massive inferiority complex. While the AFL is content to rest on its domestic laurels, pockets of the league community are intent on trying to turn their game into an international one. This will, of course, never happen.
Tournament organiser Colin Love is the chairman of the Australian Rugby League, the body that runs representative rugby league. Somehow, Love managed to convince the NRL that holding a tournament at the end of a gruelling league season was a good idea.
The NRL has even offered its marketing expertise to help sell those thousands of tickets very few people really want to buy. I still haven't met anyone who has paid for a ticket.
The Australian selectors are the only ones who have attracted any publicity so far. They picked two Broncos players who are still being investigated over an alleged sexual assault in a public toilet several weeks ago.
League needs to have a look at rugby union. It is an international game that knows exactly what side its bread is buttered on.
The Wallabies are about to embark on a tour of Hong Kong and Europe.
The Bledisloe Cup match against New Zealand in Hong Kong has been sold out for months.
The Tests in Europe are a highlight of the rugby union calendar few union fans here miss. But the Wallabies don't go to Somalia or Brazil to play matches.
Union bosses play to their audience. League just never learns.
The geniuses behind this folly will all stand around at the World Cup final between two of the three teams who can play and congratulate themselves on what a sterling achievement the whole farce has been.
In fact, it should never have happened at all. Why wouldn't we just put a team from England on a plane to Sydney, play two Tests and hand over a trophy at the end of it?
Australia already play against New Zealand on Anzac Day. League fans could easily surmise who is the best in the world with just two or three Test matches a year.
Rugby league has a wonderful domestic product. While that is apparently not enough for the minority who keep flogging a dead horse, it should be.
 
NRL stars' slates are wiped clean

By Steve Mascord | October 18, 2008
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/sport/nrl/story/0,26799,24513216-5006066,00.html

AUSTRALIAN firebrand Paul Gallen is one of a dozen discipline-challenged World Cup stars who have been given a get-out-of-jail card for two months.

Gallen, teammate Anthony Laffranchi, New Zealand trio Adam Blair, David Kidwell and Sika Manu plus Tonga's Feleti Mateo and Esi Tonga have been a hair's breath from suspension in the NRL with more than 90 demerit points each.

But because RLWC08 players come from different competitions without the points system, their slates have been wiped clean.

And not only will they not accrue points for World Cup indiscretions, they could also escape with a warning letter or a fine.

"We've worked hard to get a system that is fair to everyone," RLWC08 match commissioner Greg McCallum said.

"As it happens, that allows these players to compete in the tournament without those points hanging over their heads."

McCallum said NRL players would be unfairly prejudiced if those from other competitions effectively started the tournament with no demerit points.

"No-one wants to think the competition is played under different rules but we're going to judge what they do during the tournament," he said.

"If they carry a suspension out of the tournament, it still has to be served."

For the first time ever in a World Cup, there will be an independent review of all matches.

Team can also lodge complaints. Players will have 24 hours to enter a plea and then the hearing will be as soon as possible after that.

Players' disciplinary records can be used against them in evidence - but there are no points applied or accrued.

It's understood offences which would attract less than 100 demerit points in the NRL will result in players getting a warning letter.

Only one letter will be sent to any one player before tougher penalties apply.

These can include a suspension, a fine, or both. The commissioner will recommend penalties but the final sanction is entirely up to the tribunal.

Players who get a stay of execution until 2009 are : Blair, Kidwell, Laffranchi, Manu, Mateo, Tonga (all 93 points),Gallen (91), Cameron Smith (80), Lagi Setu (68), Jeremy Smith (67), Brent Kite, Glenn Stewart (both 56), Scott Logan (48).
 
It's depressing that Gallop and the idiots at the ARL just don't get it.  Berkeley Eagle is correct in his analysis of where this game should look for guidance and inspiration.  The expansion of union is on the rise and so our game should be as well.  But it's held back by short sighted and listless leadership, content with being very ordinary.  If the PNG government want to plough millions into the game, encourage it.  Play exhibition games overseas, put some effort in the game from the ground up.  Put a team of 'Pacific Islands' into the competition if you want one, instead of all these smaller island teams that are just fodder for NZ, Australia and England.  Or just hang up the boots and enjoy the Summer.       
 
Just watched the Kiwis rout of Tonga, expected a closer game with some of the quality Tonga had in their side

Matai had a strong game, opened the match by smashing Talanoa and made some other strong tackles, determined runs and kicked a couple of goals too

Tony Williams was on the wing for Tonga, as you would expect on the end of a flogging he didn't see much ball, made 1-2 good runs though

The standout in the match was Benji Marshall, absolutely outstanding, he is in the form of his life at the moment
 
Benji was the reason 50 points were put on

2 tries and 5 try assists is an outstanding game no matter who you are playing against
 
So he is in the form of his life based on that game Kiwi?  Let go of it!!!!  His 08 season was ordinary and having 1 good game against light weight opposition does not put him in the form of his life. 

However for the sake of the World Cup I hope you does play like he was in 05. 
 
No, not based on 1 game Garts

His last 2 games of the NRL season were outstanding, 1 against the Titans in particular where he tore them up, and since then he looks like he has been training hard and is very fit, which has been backed up by his effort last week for the All Golds and yesterday against Tonga. Granted, not the highest standard of opposition, but the footwork he has on him at the moment, along with the accuracy and fast flat passing game that is always taking the right option, is something i haven't seen him perform since 05
 
Marshall looks the goods because he's allowed to, full stop.  To get some reality back into the discussion, the way to play him is to move up in line and hold the line.  He looks good when players rush out of the line therefore giving him room to dance through or put his supports through the gaps.  If the line is held, he moves across field cramping his supports and going nowhere.  2005 was a dud year and the tiggers were just a little better than most, and won the silverware.    I delight in telling Dragqueen supporters that if Barrett had held onto the pass with the line wide open at OKI, they'd would have been premiers and the tigers put out.    Remember that's the only year the Tiggers made the eight, they haven't since. 
 
Game 1: England v Papua New Guinea (Pool 1)
Saturday 25 October 2008
Dairy Farmers Stadium, Townsville
Kick off 7:00pm local time, 8:00pm AEDST


England:
1. Paul Wellens (St Helens)
2. Ade Gardner (St Helens)
3. Martin Glesson (Warrington Wolves)
4. Keith Senior (Leeds Rhinos)
5. Lee Smith (Leeds Rhinos)
6. Leon Pryce (St Helens)
7. Rob Burrow (Leeds Rhinos)
8. Jamie Peacock (c) (Leeds Rhinos)
9. James Roby (St Helens)
10. James Graham (St Helens)
11. Gareth Hock (Wigan Warriors)
12. Gareth Ellis (Leeds Rhinos/Wests Tigers)
13. Kevin Sinfield (Leeds Rhinos)
14. Danny McGuire (Leeds Rhinos)
15. Maurie Fa’asavalu (St Helens)
16. Adrian Morley (Warrington Wolves)
17. Jon Wilkin (St Helens)
Coach: Tony Smith

Papua New Guinea
1. John Wilshere (c) (Salford City Reds)
2. George Kepa (Brisbane Norths)
3. Jesse Joe Parker (Masta Mark Rangers)
4. Tu’u Maori (Sydney Roosters)
5. David Moore (Gold Coast Titans)
6. Rod Griffin (Northern Pride)
7. Keith Peters (Penrith Panthers)
8. Makali Aizue (Hull KR)
9. Paul Aiton (Penrith Panthers)
10. Trevor Exton (Ipswich)
11. Neville Costigan (Canberra Raiders)
12. James Nightingale (Windsor Wolves)
13. Stanley Gene (Hull KR)
14. Rodney Pora (M&J Muruks)
15. George Moni (M&J Muruks)
16. Jason Chan (Windsor Wolves)
17. Charlie Wabo (M&J Muruks)
18. Nixon Kolo (Masta Mark Rangers)
19. Anton Kui (Bingtangor Lahanis)
20. Menzie Yere (Agmark Gurias)
(three to be omitted)
Coach: Adrian Lam (Sydney Roosters)

Broadcast times – please verify these times against your latest local program information!
Channel Nine Sydney: delayed 9:30-11:45pm AEDST
Fox Sports One: delayed 10:30pm-midnight AEDST
Bigpond LeagueTV: live


Game 2: Scotland v France (Pool 2)
Sunday 26 October 2008
Canberra Stadium
Kick off 5:25pm local/AEDST


Scotland:
1 Michael Robertson (Manly Sea Eagles)
2 Dean Colton (Doncaster)
3 Gavin Cowan (Balmain Ryde Eastwood Tigers)
4 Kevin Henderson (Wakefield Wildcats)
5 Jonathan Steel (Featherstone Rovers)
6 John Duffy (Widnes Vikings)
7 Danny Brough (c) (Wakefield Wildcats)
8 Scott Logan (Canberra Raiders)
9 Ian Henderson (NZ Warriors)
10 Paul Jackson (Huddersfield Giants)
11 Iain Morrison (Widnes Vikings)
12 Duncan MacGillivray (Wakefield Wildcats)
13 Lee Paterson (Widnes Vikings)
14 Oliver Wilkes (Wakefield Wildcats)
15 Chris Armit (Canterbury Bulldogs)
16 Mick Nanyn (Harlequins)
17 Andrew Henderson (Gateshead)
18 Ben Fisher (Hull KR)
19 Neil Lowe (Keighley)
(two to be ommitted)
Coach: Steve McCormack (Widnes Vikings)

France:
1. Jared Taylor (Lezignan)
2. Justin Murphy (Catalans Dragons)
3. John Wilson (Catalans Dragons)
4. Sebastien Raguin (Catalans Dragons)
5. Teddy Sadaoui (AS Carcassonne)
6. Thomas Bosc (Catalans Dragons)
7. Maxime Greseque (Pia Donkeys)
8. Adel Fellous (Hull FC)
9. Julien Rinaldi (Harlequins)
10. Olivier Elima (Catalans Dragons)
11. Jerome Guisset (Catalans Dragons)
12. Eric Anselme (Leeds Rhinos)
13. Gregory Mounis (Catalans Dragons)
14. James Wynne (Lezignan)
15. Remi Casty (Catalans Dragons)
16. Jamal Fakir (Catalans Dragons)
17. Christophe Moly (Carcassonne)
18. Laurent Carrasco (Toulouse)
(one to be omitted)
Coach: John Monie

Broadcast times – please verify these times against your latest local program information!
Fox Sports Two: Live 5:15-7:25pm
Bigpond LeagueTV: live


Game 3: Australia v New Zealand (Pool 1)
Sunday 26 October 2008
Sydney Football Stadium
Kick off 8:00pm local/AEDST


Australia:
1. Billy Slater (Melbourne Storm)
2. Joel Monaghan (Canberra Raiders)
3. Greg Inglis (Melbourne Storm)
4. Israel Folau (Melbourne Storm/Brisbane Broncos)
5. Brent Tate (NZ Warriors)
6. Darren Lockyer (c) (Brisbane Broncos)
7. Jonathan Thurston (North Queensland Cowboys)
8. Petero Civoniceva (Penrith Panthers)
9. Cameron Smith (Melbourne Storm)
10. Steve Price (NZ Warriors)
11. Glenn Stewart (Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles)
12. Anthony Laffranchi (Gold Coast Titans)
13. Paul Gallen (Cronulla Sharks)
14. Brent Kite (Manly Warringah Seas Eagles)
15. Josh Perry (Manly Warringah Seas Eagles)

16. Anthony Tupou (Sydney City Roosters)
17. Kurt Gidley (Newcastle Knights)
Coach: Ricky Stuart (Cronulla Sharks)

New Zealand:
1. Lance Hohaia (NZ Warriors)
2. Sam Perrett (Sydney Roosters)
3. Steve Matai (Manly Warringah Sea Eagles)
4. Jerome Ropati (NZ Warriors)
5. Manu Vatuvei (NZ Warriors)
6. Benji Marshall (Wests Tigers)
7. Thomas Leuluai (Wigan Warriors)
8. Nathan Cayless (c) (Parramatta Eels)
9. Nathan Fien (NZ Warriors)
10. Adam Blair (Melbourne Storm)
11. Simon Mannering (NZ Warriors)
12. Sika Manu (Melbourne Storm)
13. Jeremy Smith (Melbourne Storm)
14. Dene Halatau (Wests Tigers)
15. Greg Eastwood (Brisbane Broncos/Leeds Rhinos)
16. Setimata Sa (Sydney Roosters)
17. Sam Rapira (NZ Warriors)
Coach: Stephen Kearney (Melbourne Storm)

Broadcast times – please verify these times against your latest local program information!
Channel Nine Sydney: delayed 8:30-10:45pm
Fox Sports One: delayed 10:30pm-midnight AEDST
Bigpond LeagueTV: live


Exhibition Game: NZ Maori V Australia Indigenous
Sunday 26 October 2008
Sydney Football Stadium
Kick off 4:15pm local/AEDST


NZ Maori
1. Bronx Goodwin (Unattached/Tanui)
2. Jordan Rpana (Gold Coast Titans/Ngati Toa)
3. Chase Stanley (St George-Illawarra Dragons/Ngapuhi)
4. Karl Johnson (Comets/Ngapuhi)
5. Shaun Kenny-Dowell (Sydney City Roosters/Kai Tahu)
6. Arana Taumata (Canterbury Bulldogs/Tuwharetoa)
7. Rangi Chase (St George-Illawarra Dragons/Ngati Kahungunu)
8. Weller Hauraki (Parramatta Eels) Ngapuhi
9. Ben Ellis (C) (St George-Illawarra Dragons) Tuwharetoa
10. Sam McKendry (Penrith Panthers) Ngapuhi
11. Craig Smith (Unattached former NZ International/Te Whanau Apanui)
12. Wairangi Koopu (NZ Warriors/Ngapuhi)
13. Lee Te Maari (Canterbury Bulldogs/Tanui)
14. Charlie Herekotukutuku (North Sydney Bears)
15. Joseph Cahill (Sydney Roosters/Ngati Kahungunu)
16. Chance Bunce (Cronulla Sharks/Ngapuhi)
17. James Tamou (Sydney Roosters/Tuhoe)
18. Kevin Proctor (Melbourne Storm/Ngapuhi)
(one to be omitted)
Head Coach: Luke Goodwin (NSW Maori RL/Tanui)

Australia Indigenous:
1. Rhys Wesser (Penrith Panthers/South Sydney Rabbitohs)
2. Justin Carney (Canberra Raiders)
3. Maurice Blair (Penrith Panthers)
4. Jamal Idris (Canterbury Bulldogs)
5. Ty Williams (North Queensland Cowboys)
6. Jamie Soward (St George-Illawarra Dragons)
7. Preston Campbell (c) (Gold Coast Titans)
8. Carl Webb (vc) (North Queensland Cowboys)
9. Ian Lacey (Ipswitch Jets)
10. George Rose (Manly Warringah Sea Eagles)
11. Daine Laurie (Wests Tigers)
12. Derrick Watkins (Brisbane Broncos)
13. Dean Widders (South Sydney Rabbitohs)
14. Chris Sandow (South Sydney Rabbitohs)
15. Rod Jensen (Huddersfield Giants)
16. Yileen Gordon (Canterbury Bulldogs)
17. Peter Jensen (Thirlmere/Tahmoor Roosters)
18. Denis Moran (Narwan Eels)
(one to be omitted)
Coach: Neil Henry (Canberra Raiders/North Queensland Cowboys)
 
DSM5 link said:
Such a shame that the exhibition game doesn't get any TV coverage.

Wide World of Sports
Rugby League World Cup
Indigenous Dreamtime Team V New Zealand Maori

4pm – 6pm Nine
Sunday 26 October 2008
Join the commentary team, including Andrew Voss, Andrew Johns and Laurie Daley, for all the action of the Welcome to Country game, live from the SCG.

Genre: Sport/Rugby League
Other: Closed Captions
Widescreen
LIVE
Duration: 120 mins
 
Haha, so that game is live but all of the Pool A games are delayed?

Don't get me wrong, I think it's great that game is getting coverage, but find it slightly insane that we can see it live ahead of far more interesting/important games.
 
the EAGLE ROCK link said:
IRELAND
Ross Barbour, Bob Beswick, Damien Blanch, Mick Cassidy, Ged Corcoran, Lee Doran, Liam Finn, Simon Finnigan, Karl Fitzpatrick, Stevie Gibbons, Sean Gleeson, Scott Grix, Gareth Haggerty, Ben Harrison, Graham Holroyd, Wayne Kerr, Stuart Littler, Shannon McDonnell, Michael McIllorum, Eamon O'Carroll, Michael Platt, Pat Richards, Ryan Tandy, Brett White



hahaha...This guy is gunna cop a hammering from supporters downunder i reckon!

he is actually the most awesome guy ever!! me and sassy have been covering the Irish team for Errol and hanging out with them and they are honestly the greatest bunch of guys, we adore them. total underdogs but they have our full support for the world cup. aussie squad is full of dirty queenslanders, yech.
 

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