MVP: Round by round catch up and 2023 MVP winner

[mosto]

Massive apologies all. Family and work commitments have really got in the way of me keeping this updated this year. Although I notice I stopped posting updates after the Broncos game so maybe I lost interest completely

Anyway, here is a round by round catch up in this thread that will culminate in the announcement of the 2023 Silvertails MVP!

Rd 10 v Broncos
3 DCE
2 Ola
1 Tent

Rd 11 v Sharks
3 DCE
2 Tent
1 Burbo

Rd 12 v Raiders
3 Turbo
2 Shoe
1 Tent

Rd 13 v Knights
3 Froggy
2 Keppie
1 Tent

Rd 15 v Dolphins
3 Sandwich
2 Turbo
1 Froggy

Rd 16 v Eels
3 Keppie
2 Bully
1 Koula

Rd 17 v Storm
3 Sandwich
2 DCE
1 Lionel

Rd 18 v Roosters
3 DCE
2 Sandwich
1 Jake

Rd 20 v Cowboys
3 Froggy
2 Scorpio
1 Sandwich

Rd 21 v Sharks
3 DCE
1.5 Koula
1.5 Lodge

Rd 22 v Dragons
3 Koula
2 Lodge
1 Saab

Rd 23 v Roosters
3 Ola
2 Vaega
1 Schu

Rd 24 v Panthers
3 Ola
2 DCE
1 Sippers

Rd 25 v Warriors
3 DCE
2 Sippers
1 Saab

Rd 26 v Bulldogs
3 DCE
2 Koula
1 Sippers

Rd 27 v Tigers
3 Koula
2 Ola
1 DCE

So after 27 Rounds the winner of the 2023 Silvertails MVP is................

Daly Cherry-Evans

In the end he won his 3rd Silvertails MVP by a comfortable margin. Final vote counts for the year are below:

DCE	31​
Ola	18​
Jake	12​
Tent	11​
Koula	10.5​
Sandwich	9​
Turbo	8​
Froggy	8​
Toff	7​
Bully	6​
Saab	5​
Keppie	5​
Schu	4​
Lodge	3.5​
Scorpio	2​
Vaega	2​
Burbo	1​
Lionel	1​

The Silvertails MVP Honour Roll

Silvertails MVP Honour Roll
2013	Kieran Foran
2014	Kieran Foran
2015	Jake Trbojevic
2016	Jake Trbojevic
2017	Daly Cherry-Evans
2018	Jake Trbojevic
2019	Addin Fonua-Blake
2020	Daly Cherry-Evans
2021	Tom Trbojevic
2022	Haumole Olakau'atu
2023	Daly Cherry-Evans

Apologies again for the lack of updates this year. Hopefully next year I should be in a position to do them weekly.

Thanks for voting!

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Thanks @mosto great work, the MVP is one of my favourite Silvertails features. Sometimes I open it to cast a vote, check out some other posters picks and end up changing my mind

 

[The Who]

Interesting isn't it that our 'big' signings for 2023 -- Kelma and Condom -- didn't register a single point in the season. Good thing Doesn'tmatta recruiters didn't get to see this before signing Kelma (if this signing news is accurate).
I'm sure most posters are like me: when we win it's hard to restrict voting to just three players; there are many we want to give a wrap to. On the other hand, when we lose often we struggle to find three players worthy of commendation.
At the risk of doing an 'Albo' and suggesting a change: How about we consider making it Top Five Best after a win, but remaining at three players after a loss? Vote YES or Vote NO...

 

[mosto]

Thanks @mosto great work, the MVP is one of my favourite Silvertails features. Sometimes I open it to cast a vote, check out some other posters picks and end up changing my mind

Ha ha, I always cast my vote first. I then sometimes look at how others voted when counting them and think, 'Jesus I'm way off, what game did I watch!'

 

[mosto]

Interesting isn't it that our 'big' signings for 2023 -- Kelma and Condom -- didn't register a single point in the season. Good thing Doesn'tmatta recruiters didn't get to see this before signing Kelma (if this signing news is accurate).
I'm sure most posters are like me: when we win it's hard to restrict voting to just three players; there are many we want to give a wrap to. On the other hand, when we lose often we struggle to find three players worthy of commendation.
At the risk of doing an 'Albo' and suggesting a change: How about we consider making it Top Five Best after a win, but remaining at three players after a loss? Vote YES or Vote NO...

There's certainly a lot more votes to count after a win. I've been pretty strict with how I count the votes and think it gets too messy counting multiple or split votes. For what it's worth I only count votes that have a clearly defined 3 2 1, for a total of 6 points towards the final count. For example, a vote of DCE 3, everyone else 0 doesn't get counted. Likewise a vote of Ola 3, Garrick 2, Jake and Koula 1 each doesn't get counted as that voter has given 7 total points towards the final count where other voters are giving 6. I also don't count a vote of say 0.5 point each to split a 1 vote but that's purely a selfish thing as I couldn't be bothered keeping records down to that sort of detail.

What I do hope to get time to do at some stage is total up all votes received and see how that table pans out. Each game only has a 3 2 and 1 obviously but some weeks the player getting 3 points might have 120 total votes and the 2 points might get 30 (this happened a lot with Turbo in 2021). However the next week the top player might register 50 votes and 2nd place 49, but top player from both weeks gets 3 points towards the overall yearly total, if that makes sense. I think it'd be an interesting way to look at it. There's players who register votes every week but more often then not end up 4th or 5th in the voting so don't register many points towards the yearly tally.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

The Top 10 in this year's list do look clearly like our current top 10 players.
Add Brooks, maybe Lodge later in the year, and our best 17 only has 5 spots left.
Of which we'd hope Gordie and Schu to take 2.
That leaves Saab plus ... one more outside back and one more bench forward.
Paulo/Tuipulotu/Parker and Aloai/Burbo...?

 

[Seagles68]

Great work @mosto, I'm sure it's a bit of work. So thanks very much for the effort.

I always have to watch the replay after watching at Brookie and it's amazing how much I miss and I usually surprise myself with the 3 I end up with.

Thanks again.

 

[Will on the hill]

Thank you so much Mosto. Your diligent work is more appreciated than you could imagine.

Once again the wisdom of the crowd has proven its worth. This is exactly how I would've ordered the team this year with the possible exception of Froggy being underrated.

 

[Seagles68]

Thank you so much Mosto. Your diligent work is more appreciated than you could imagine.

Once again the wisdom of the crowd has proven its worth. This is exactly how I would've ordered the team this year with the possible exception of Froggy being underrated.

Yep, I would have thought Croker was easy top 5 but there you go.

 

[Uk eagle]

I don't mind that there isn't a constant update on the running total for the year, it adds to the suspense!!
Thanks again for your hard work bringing it together

 

[StuBoot]

Thank you so much Mosto. Your diligent work is more appreciated than you could imagine.

Once again the wisdom of the crowd has proven its worth. This is exactly how I would've ordered the team this year with the possible exception of Froggy being underrated.

Yes, thanks @mosto for compiling this.

As for the wisdom of the crowd, it's generally on the money but one thing I noticed more of this year was that the 1 point vote tended to be given as an "encouragement award" .... rather than the third best player.
Eg - How did Vaega get 2 points in RD 23 v the chooks?
He obviously got enough 1 point votes but if he was our second best player then 15 other guys had absolute shockers!

PS - I can't believe Reuben didn't get any points until Rd 15, I thought he was consistently one of best.

 

[carl]

Interesting that turbo still made 7th despite missing a lot of games and copping some criticism for being underdone when he was playing

 

[Will on the hill]

Yes, thanks @mosto for compiling this.

As for the wisdom of the crowd, it's generally on the money but one thing I noticed more of this year was that the 1 point vote tended to be given as an "encouragement award" .... rather than the third best player.
Eg - How did Vaega get 2 points in RD 23 v the chooks?
He obviously got enough 1 point votes but if he was our second best player then 15 other guys had absolute shockers!

PS - I can't believe Reuben didn't get any points until Rd 15, I thought he was consistently one of best.

Agreed, as @mosto pointed out, total points maybe a better metric for overall contribution to the season as a whole.

 

[ALinda]

Thank you @mosto for running the MVP again this year, your efforts are much appreciated. I really enjoy participating every week and it's interesting to compare votes with other posters.

Funny how Lodge got 3.5 points for a similar number of games, yet Aloiai couldn't even get 1 point this year! That says it all...

 

[mosto]

Ok so I've done the tally of total votes through the year and it works out pretty similar to the 3, 2, 1 method.

DCE	1096
Ola	625
Tent	473
Jake	398
Sandwich	363
Froggy	323
Turbo	305
Koula	288
Schu	232
Sippers	201
Bully	173
Parker	155
Saab	136
Keppie	128
Lodge	101
Bully	76
Lionel	40
Aloiai	36
Vaega	26
Kelma	21
Burbo	18
Lawman	13
Weekes	13
Fainu	11
Woods	11
Arthur	8
Tippytoes	7
Matto	6
Johns	2

 

[carl]

Schu up from 13th to 9th

 

[Will on the hill]

Ok so I've done the tally of total votes through the year and it works out pretty similar to the 3, 2, 1 method.

DCE	1096
Ola	625
Tent	473
Jake	398
Sandwich	363
Froggy	323
Turbo	305
Koula	288
Schu	232
Sippers	201
Bully	173
Parker	155
Saab	136
Keppie	128
Lodge	101
Bully	76
Lionel	40
Aloiai	36
Vaega	26
Kelma	21
Burbo	18
Lawman	13
Weekes	13
Fainu	11
Woods	11
Arthur	8
Tippytoes	7
Matto	6
Johns	2

Maybe the best measure would be some sort of player rating system where we give a score out of 10 for each player. I wonder if it could be automated? @Dan is this possible?

 

[Dan]

Maybe the best measure would be some sort of player rating system where we give a score out of 10 for each player. I wonder if it could be automated? @Dan is this possible?

Yes it's possible, yes it's something I want to build and I hope I have time after December to build it.

What would help is if someone could work out precisely what we need and the equations and then I can just throw the rest together

 

[Stuey Davis’s Socks]

Ok so I've done the tally of total votes through the year and it works out pretty similar to the 3, 2, 1 method.

DCE	1096
Ola	625
Tent	473
Jake	398
Sandwich	363
Froggy	323
Turbo	305
Koula	288
Schu	232
Sippers	201
Bully	173
Parker	155
Saab	136
Keppie	128
Lodge	101
Bully	76
Lionel	40
Aloiai	36
Vaega	26
Kelma	21
Burbo	18
Lawman	13
Weekes	13
Fainu	11
Woods	11
Arthur	8
Tippytoes	7
Matto	6
Johns	2

Bully’s on there twice?

 

[Marto1970]

Lodge went ok for 2 games