MVP: Round by round catch up and 2023 MVP winner

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mosto

I have a well known member
Premium Member
Massive apologies all. Family and work commitments have really got in the way of me keeping this updated this year. Although I notice I stopped posting updates after the Broncos game so maybe I lost interest completely 🤣

Anyway, here is a round by round catch up in this thread that will culminate in the announcement of the 2023 Silvertails MVP!

Rd 10 v Broncos
3 DCE
2 Ola
1 Tent

Rd 11 v Sharks
3 DCE
2 Tent
1 Burbo

Rd 12 v Raiders
3 Turbo
2 Shoe
1 Tent

Rd 13 v Knights
3 Froggy
2 Keppie
1 Tent

Rd 15 v Dolphins
3 Sandwich
2 Turbo
1 Froggy

Rd 16 v Eels
3 Keppie
2 Bully
1 Koula

Rd 17 v Storm
3 Sandwich
2 DCE
1 Lionel

Rd 18 v Roosters
3 DCE
2 Sandwich
1 Jake

Rd 20 v Cowboys
3 Froggy
2 Scorpio
1 Sandwich

Rd 21 v Sharks
3 DCE
1.5 Koula
1.5 Lodge

Rd 22 v Dragons
3 Koula
2 Lodge
1 Saab

Rd 23 v Roosters
3 Ola
2 Vaega
1 Schu

Rd 24 v Panthers
3 Ola
2 DCE
1 Sippers

Rd 25 v Warriors
3 DCE
2 Sippers
1 Saab

Rd 26 v Bulldogs
3 DCE
2 Koula
1 Sippers

Rd 27 v Tigers
3 Koula
2 Ola
1 DCE

So after 27 Rounds the winner of the 2023 Silvertails MVP is................

Daly Cherry-Evans

In the end he won his 3rd Silvertails MVP by a comfortable margin. Final vote counts for the year are below:

DCE
31​
Ola
18​
Jake
12​
Tent
11​
Koula
10.5​
Sandwich
9​
Turbo
8​
Froggy
8​
Toff
7​
Bully
6​
Saab
5​
Keppie
5​
Schu
4​
Lodge
3.5​
Scorpio
2​
Vaega
2​
Burbo
1​
Lionel
1​

The Silvertails MVP Honour Roll
Silvertails MVP Honour Roll
2013Kieran Foran
2014Kieran Foran
2015Jake Trbojevic
2016Jake Trbojevic
2017Daly Cherry-Evans
2018Jake Trbojevic
2019Addin Fonua-Blake
2020Daly Cherry-Evans
2021Tom Trbojevic
2022Haumole Olakau'atu
2023Daly Cherry-Evans

Apologies again for the lack of updates this year. Hopefully next year I should be in a position to do them weekly.

Thanks for voting!
 

The Who

Journey Man
Interesting isn't it that our 'big' signings for 2023 -- Kelma and Condom -- didn't register a single point in the season. Good thing Doesn'tmatta recruiters didn't get to see this before signing Kelma (if this signing news is accurate).
I'm sure most posters are like me: when we win it's hard to restrict voting to just three players; there are many we want to give a wrap to. On the other hand, when we lose often we struggle to find three players worthy of commendation.
At the risk of doing an 'Albo' and suggesting a change: How about we consider making it Top Five Best after a win, but remaining at three players after a loss? Vote YES or Vote NO...
 

mosto

I have a well known member
Premium Member
Interesting isn't it that our 'big' signings for 2023 -- Kelma and Condom -- didn't register a single point in the season. Good thing Doesn'tmatta recruiters didn't get to see this before signing Kelma (if this signing news is accurate).
I'm sure most posters are like me: when we win it's hard to restrict voting to just three players; there are many we want to give a wrap to. On the other hand, when we lose often we struggle to find three players worthy of commendation.
At the risk of doing an 'Albo' and suggesting a change: How about we consider making it Top Five Best after a win, but remaining at three players after a loss? Vote YES or Vote NO...
There's certainly a lot more votes to count after a win. I've been pretty strict with how I count the votes and think it gets too messy counting multiple or split votes. For what it's worth I only count votes that have a clearly defined 3 2 1, for a total of 6 points towards the final count. For example, a vote of DCE 3, everyone else 0 doesn't get counted. Likewise a vote of Ola 3, Garrick 2, Jake and Koula 1 each doesn't get counted as that voter has given 7 total points towards the final count where other voters are giving 6. I also don't count a vote of say 0.5 point each to split a 1 vote but that's purely a selfish thing as I couldn't be bothered keeping records down to that sort of detail.

What I do hope to get time to do at some stage is total up all votes received and see how that table pans out. Each game only has a 3 2 and 1 obviously but some weeks the player getting 3 points might have 120 total votes and the 2 points might get 30 (this happened a lot with Turbo in 2021). However the next week the top player might register 50 votes and 2nd place 49, but top player from both weeks gets 3 points towards the overall yearly total, if that makes sense. I think it'd be an interesting way to look at it. There's players who register votes every week but more often then not end up 4th or 5th in the voting so don't register many points towards the yearly tally.
 

SeaEagleRock8

Sea Eagle Lach
Premium Member
Tipping Member
The Top 10 in this year's list do look clearly like our current top 10 players.
Add Brooks, maybe Lodge later in the year, and our best 17 only has 5 spots left.
Of which we'd hope Gordie and Schu to take 2.
That leaves Saab plus ... one more outside back and one more bench forward.
Paulo/Tuipulotu/Parker and Aloai/Burbo...?
 

Seagles68

Bencher
Premium Member
Tipping Member
Great work @mosto, I'm sure it's a bit of work. So thanks very much for the effort.

I always have to watch the replay after watching at Brookie and it's amazing how much I miss and I usually surprise myself with the 3 I end up with.

Thanks again.
 

Seagles68

Bencher
Premium Member
Tipping Member
Thank you so much Mosto. Your diligent work is more appreciated than you could imagine.

Once again the wisdom of the crowd has proven its worth. This is exactly how I would've ordered the team this year with the possible exception of Froggy being underrated.
Yep, I would have thought Croker was easy top 5 but there you go.
 

StuBoot

Bencher
Thank you so much Mosto. Your diligent work is more appreciated than you could imagine.

Once again the wisdom of the crowd has proven its worth. This is exactly how I would've ordered the team this year with the possible exception of Froggy being underrated.

Yes, thanks @mosto for compiling this.

As for the wisdom of the crowd, it's generally on the money but one thing I noticed more of this year was that the 1 point vote tended to be given as an "encouragement award" .... rather than the third best player.
Eg - How did Vaega get 2 points in RD 23 v the chooks?
He obviously got enough 1 point votes but if he was our second best player then 15 other guys had absolute shockers!

PS - I can't believe Reuben didn't get any points until Rd 15, I thought he was consistently one of best.
 

Will on the hill

Bencher
Tipping Member
Yes, thanks @mosto for compiling this.

As for the wisdom of the crowd, it's generally on the money but one thing I noticed more of this year was that the 1 point vote tended to be given as an "encouragement award" .... rather than the third best player.
Eg - How did Vaega get 2 points in RD 23 v the chooks?
He obviously got enough 1 point votes but if he was our second best player then 15 other guys had absolute shockers!

PS - I can't believe Reuben didn't get any points until Rd 15, I thought he was consistently one of best.
Agreed, as @mosto pointed out, total points maybe a better metric for overall contribution to the season as a whole.
 

ALinda

Bencher
Premium Member
Tipping Member
Thank you @mosto for running the MVP again this year, your efforts are much appreciated. I really enjoy participating every week and it's interesting to compare votes with other posters.

Funny how Lodge got 3.5 points for a similar number of games, yet Aloiai couldn't even get 1 point this year! That says it all...
 

mosto

I have a well known member
Premium Member
Ok so I've done the tally of total votes through the year and it works out pretty similar to the 3, 2, 1 method.

DCE1096
Ola625
Tent473
Jake398
Sandwich363
Froggy323
Turbo305
Koula288
Schu232
Sippers201
Bully173
Parker155
Saab136
Keppie128
Lodge101
Bully76
Lionel40
Aloiai36
Vaega26
Kelma21
Burbo18
Lawman13
Weekes13
Fainu11
Woods11
Arthur8
Tippytoes7
Matto6
Johns2
 

Will on the hill

Bencher
Tipping Member
Ok so I've done the tally of total votes through the year and it works out pretty similar to the 3, 2, 1 method.

DCE1096
Ola625
Tent473
Jake398
Sandwich363
Froggy323
Turbo305
Koula288
Schu232
Sippers201
Bully173
Parker155
Saab136
Keppie128
Lodge101
Bully76
Lionel40
Aloiai36
Vaega26
Kelma21
Burbo18
Lawman13
Weekes13
Fainu11
Woods11
Arthur8
Tippytoes7
Matto6
Johns2
Maybe the best measure would be some sort of player rating system where we give a score out of 10 for each player. I wonder if it could be automated? @Dan is this possible?
 

Dan

Kim Jong Dan
Staff member
Administrator
Tipping Member
Maybe the best measure would be some sort of player rating system where we give a score out of 10 for each player. I wonder if it could be automated? @Dan is this possible?
Yes it's possible, yes it's something I want to build and I hope I have time after December to build it.

What would help is if someone could work out precisely what we need and the equations and then I can just throw the rest together
 

Stuey Davis’s Socks

Bencher
Premium Member
Tipping Member
Ok so I've done the tally of total votes through the year and it works out pretty similar to the 3, 2, 1 method.

DCE1096
Ola625
Tent473
Jake398
Sandwich363
Froggy323
Turbo305
Koula288
Schu232
Sippers201
Bully173
Parker155
Saab136
Keppie128
Lodge101
Bully76
Lionel40
Aloiai36
Vaega26
Kelma21
Burbo18
Lawman13
Weekes13
Fainu11
Woods11
Arthur8
Tippytoes7
Matto6
Johns2
Bully’s on there twice?
 

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