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That just links to the article where the Broncos set a $500,000 transfer fee. There was never any confirmation on what figure they settled on.


 
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The Cows were never in that game but honestly, they were never allowed to be either. That was an atrocious refereeing performance. I hate hate hate the current state of the game. As mentioned by others, if these idiots in charge want touch football, go join that regime and leave this sport alone. No one wants diving or penalties for strong tackles and sin bins because players can’t break the laws of physics. I just wish I didn’t love the Broncos so much and could be done with this stupid competition.

I’m so grateful I’ve got the Super League. It isn’t without its issues but at least it still resembles what league should be, not this soccer rubbish we are now getting.





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The Cows were never in that game but honestly, they were never allowed to be either. That was an atrocious refereeing performance. I hate hate hate the current state of the game. As mentioned by others, if these idiots in charge want touch football, go join that regime and leave this sport alone. No one wants diving or penalties for strong tackles and sin bins because players can’t break the laws of physics. I just wish I didn’t love the Broncos so much and could be done with this stupid competition.

I’m so grateful I’ve got the Super League. It isn’t without its issues but at least it still resembles what league should be, not this soccer rubbish we are now getting.


 
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The Cows were never in that game but honestly, they were never allowed to be either. That was an atrocious refereeing performance. I hate hate hate the current state of the game. As mentioned by others, if these idiots in charge want touch football, go join that regime and leave this sport alone. No one wants diving or penalties for strong tackles and sin bins because players can’t break the laws of physics. I just wish I didn’t love the Broncos so much and could be done with this stupid competition.

I’m so grateful I’ve got the Super League. It isn’t without its issues but at least it still resembles what league should be, not this soccer rubbish we are now getting.
I think a lot of people are at a bit of a tipping point. The problem is that the market is asking for this kind of entertainment, and the players are also enabling it because it is being incentivised.

I also love the Broncos, so I can't let it go either, and I hope it gets better. It sucks, because the Broncos are doing really well, so it's weird to still complain about the code, but I said when the Broncos were losing that it was turning to ****, and I stand by that.

So, now I just hope it rights itself, because it might get pushback from the core fanbase, who really are responsible for the success of the game. The fickle fans will bring money, but it isn't money that stays. It is chasing the dopamine hit that any entertainment product can give them.

The final factor will be whether players actually decide to still play, when they are actually knowingly putting themselves at risk of so much danger healthwise. I think so, but the legal aspect of it all will ultimately come down to money. That means the league will need to chase money. That is the spiral we may currently be in. The super league may soon follow. However, obviously there is a market for full-contact sport.

A professional touch footy product like the NRL might actually be fun to watch, to be fair.
Check out GAA Hurling if you want a fast contact sport with lads playing for pride, not money.





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The Cows were never in that game but honestly, they were never allowed to be either. That was an atrocious refereeing performance. I hate hate hate the current state of the game. As mentioned by others, if these idiots in charge want touch football, go join that regime and leave this sport alone. No one wants diving or penalties for strong tackles and sin bins because players can’t break the laws of physics. I just wish I didn’t love the Broncos so much and could be done with this stupid competition.

I’m so grateful I’ve got the Super League. It isn’t without its issues but at least it still resembles what league should be, not this soccer rubbish we are now getting.
I think a lot of people are at a bit of a tipping point. The problem is that the market is asking for this kind of entertainment, and the players are also enabling it because it is being incentivised.

I also love the Broncos, so I can't let it go either, and I hope it gets better. It sucks, because the Broncos are doing really well, so it's weird to still complain about the code, but I said when the Broncos were losing that it was turning to ****, and I stand by that.

So, now I just hope it rights itself, because it might get pushback from the core fanbase, who really are responsible for the success of the game. The fickle fans will bring money, but it isn't money that stays. It is chasing the dopamine hit that any entertainment product can give them.

The final factor will be whether players actually decide to still play, when they are actually knowingly putting themselves at risk of so much danger healthwise. I think so, but the legal aspect of it all will ultimately come down to money. That means the league will need to chase money. That is the spiral we may currently be in. The super league may soon follow. However, obviously there is a market for full-contact sport.

A professional touch footy product like the NRL might actually be fun to watch, to be fair.
Check out GAA Hurling if you want a fast contact sport with lads playing for pride, not money.


 
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The Cows were never in that game but honestly, they were never allowed to be either. That was an atrocious refereeing performance. I hate hate hate the current state of the game. As mentioned by others, if these idiots in charge want touch football, go join that regime and leave this sport alone. No one wants diving or penalties for strong tackles and sin bins because players can’t break the laws of physics. I just wish I didn’t love the Broncos so much and could be done with this stupid competition.

I’m so grateful I’ve got the Super League. It isn’t without its issues but at least it still resembles what league should be, not this soccer rubbish we are now getting.
Preach.
This is exactly where i am at with the game.
Loved footy all my life, so its hard to break a lifelong addiction.

But these ****wits overhauling the game have destroyed footy.

Bring back the shoulder charge, bring back the biff, and if the blokes at the top dont like it, find another sport to wreck.





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The Cows were never in that game but honestly, they were never allowed to be either. That was an atrocious refereeing performance. I hate hate hate the current state of the game. As mentioned by others, if these idiots in charge want touch football, go join that regime and leave this sport alone. No one wants diving or penalties for strong tackles and sin bins because players can’t break the laws of physics. I just wish I didn’t love the Broncos so much and could be done with this stupid competition.

I’m so grateful I’ve got the Super League. It isn’t without its issues but at least it still resembles what league should be, not this soccer rubbish we are now getting.
Preach.
This is exactly where i am at with the game.
Loved footy all my life, so its hard to break a lifelong addiction.

But these ****wits overhauling the game have destroyed footy.

Bring back the shoulder charge, bring back the biff, and if the blokes at the top dont like it, find another sport to wreck.


 
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Wish we challenged the Haas suspension.

I don't think Haas needed a two week rest ... one week without him is enough thanks


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Wish we challenged the Haas suspension.

I don't think Haas needed a two week rest ... one week without him is enough thanks


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I am quite enjoying the actual footy that’s being played and don’t think the game has gone soft or whatever boomers are crowing about. What I do hate is the diving and the rewarding of the diving. That’s where it’s losing a bit of gloss. The refs making it about them needs to be overhauled.

my main concern with the refs if they aren’t getting paid big money (compared to the players) the entry level guys are on about 150 and it goes up from there. You can’t tell me that’s not leaving them vulnerable to bribes etc. not saying that they are, but the NRL should definitely help those guys out fire than they do.


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I am quite enjoying the actual footy that’s being played and don’t think the game has gone soft or whatever boomers are crowing about. What I do hate is the diving and the rewarding of the diving. That’s where it’s losing a bit of gloss. The refs making it about them needs to be overhauled.

my main concern with the refs if they aren’t getting paid big money (compared to the players) the entry level guys are on about 150 and it goes up from there. You can’t tell me that’s not leaving them vulnerable to bribes etc. not saying that they are, but the NRL should definitely help those guys out fire than they do.


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Preach.
This is exactly where i am at with the game.
Loved footy all my life, so its hard to break a lifelong addiction.

But these ****wits overhauling the game have destroyed footy.

Bring back the shoulder charge, bring back the biff, and if the blokes at the top dont like it, find another sport to wreck.

You do realise .
A shoulder charge killed a player a few years back ?





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Preach.
This is exactly where i am at with the game.
Loved footy all my life, so its hard to break a lifelong addiction.

But these ****wits overhauling the game have destroyed footy.

Bring back the shoulder charge, bring back the biff, and if the blokes at the top dont like it, find another sport to wreck.

You do realise .
A shoulder charge killed a player a few years back ?


 

Are the Broncos fools gold? We’re about to find out when they face red-hot Rabbitohs

"Let’s get the cliches out of the way. You can only defeat the team in front of you. The Broncos do not pick their own draw. If they do, it’s the NRL’s fault for scheduling one of their biggest market teams regularly on a Friday or Saturday night.

All of these things are true. But, going into their stiffest test of the season at Suncorp against South Sydney, it’s worth considering the 7-1 Broncos and whether, for want of a better phrase, they’re all that.

While their start has undeniably been impressive, it’s impossible to look at that 7-1 without taking into account the two major factors that influence it. It has been an absolute rails run thus far.
Their opponents have been soft, their travel light, their turnarounds long. Duly, their injuries have also been light and their home advantage strong.

Compare and contrast to this week’s opponent and things start to look very different. Both the Broncos and the Bunnies have played eight games – so no byes thus far – and while Souths can only boast a 4-3 record, their ‘yeah, but who have they played?’ factor is much stronger.
The strength of their opponents thus far, as calculated by the number of wins on the board from the six teams they have played (they have faced Penrith twice), is 33. For the Broncos, it is a full ten wins fewer at 23. That’s a massive difference in strength of schedule.

Then there’s the location. Souths, by dint of playing at Accor Stadium – aka Sydney’s biggest concert venue – missed three home games to start the year that will have to be made up elsewhere.
Their record is three home games, four away, including trips to Penrith, Cronulla and the Roosters, historically some of the toughest assignments in the league.

The Broncos went Penrith in week one, the crapshootiest game of the year, followed by… nothing.
They’ve played the Dolphins away, which is, of course, actually at home, plus the Titans away, which might as well have been at home given the distribution of supporters in South East Queensland, plus a neutral venue game against Parramatta last weekend in Darwin.

Home advantage is a statistically-proven phenomenon in all sports, and home teams win at about 10% above average. All that plays into Brisbane’s strong start.

Then there’s the turnarounds. Brisbane have had two six dayers, five seven dayers and two eight day turnarounds, for a total of 63 turnaround days by kick off on Friday night.

Souths, on the other hand, have had a five-dayer, two six dayers, two seven dayers and three eight dayers for a grand total of 55 turnaround days, or more than a whole week less than the Broncos.
This is a massive advantage. Being able to set a schedule and not alter it, as is the case when you play Saturday to Saturday or Friday to Saturday, does wonders for routine.

They’re yet to have a single Thursday or Sunday game, and indeed, don’t have a single five day turnaround until the last round of the regular season.

That plays out in injuries. 15 of the 20 players they have used this year have played at least seven of their eight games and Jesse Arthars has played six. That’s an incredibly consistent team, given incredible stability by scheduling. Only Corey Oates has got injured and nobody, until this week, has been suspended.

Again, compare and contrast to Souths. They’ve used 23 players, and only 12 have been on deck for at least six of them, including headline injuries in the forwards to Tevita Tatola, Jai Arrow, Shaq Mitchell and Keaon Koloamatangi.

Across eight rounds so far, they are yet to name the same starting front row twice and Tom Burgess is the only big man to play every game, and that’s before you get to the three times they have lost a middle in the opening stages.

So are the Broncos fools gold? That underlying metrics would suggest that they aren’t lucky on the field, with the data saying that they are running a little hot, but not unsustainably so.

They’re about half a win up on where their stats say they should be, but after eight completed rounds, that’s not much. One could comfortably say that they’re sustainably good and worth first place on the performances that they have put in.

They’re top for tries scored and second top for metres made while also being among the best defensively in terms of metres conceded and tries conceded.

They’re also incredibly efficient, outperforming their number of line breaks in terms of tries scored, one of only two sides in the comp (with Manly) to do so. All these things are very positive for Kevin Walters and Brisbane.

But, of course, those numbers are based on who they have played. It’s impossible to overlook the less tangible, but still highly relevant structural advantages the Broncos have enjoyed in terms of draw and scheduling.

This week, they come up against their toughest test yet in the Bunnies, with their first setback too, with suspensions to Ezra Mam and Payne Haas and another injury to Corey Oates, while Souths will be able to field close to their best pack for the first time all year.

Last week, one could have said the same going into their clash with Parramatta in Darwin, and they passed it with flying colours. If they do that again against a Rabbitohs side off the back of a statement win over the Panthers, then we might be ready to call them the real deal."
 
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I get that there needs to be a duty of care but this isn’t a soft sport, it has full contact and that comes with inherent risks that players are fully aware of when they pursue a career in it and are very healthily compensated. These days no one can say they don’t know the risks if they play. So why does it need to be over-policed?

I know @McHunt doesn’t like ref bagging and to be honest, I do see his point to an extent but I think most fans will generally accept bad decisions will happen from time to time on field. I think what is really driving fans nuts is that the captain’s challenge and bunker were supposedly bought in so that the howlers could be taken out of the game and the game can speed up. Well the opposite has happened. The bunker makes dumb calls despite all the evidence to the contrary and backs up some howlers that are made on field. Then the judiciary and moron in charge of refs comes out be close fans dumb by making up de rules to justify said mistake or using a completely different precedent. On field decisions they are poor in the best of the moment I can cop, doubled down stupidity that flies in the face of the evidence I can not.

Also because apparently fans wanted a faster game, six agains were introduced which no one wanted and I don’t believe many want to this day. The effect of a faster game with stronger, bigger and faster players is that they are under more fatigue. So players are being penalised because of previous stupid decisions made by the administration being doubled down as players bear the effects of more fatigue and subsequent increased risk of things going wrong.

So on the one hand, they are talking about duty of care and trying to stamp things out of the game while actively making rules that increase the danger to duty of care. It is hypocritical. Then on top of all of that, they double down on it by cross promoting boxing / MMA. Kent is the perfect example of this hypocrisy. He seems to be clearly mandated to promote the NRL at ever post and constantly goes off his nut about fans not being supportive of these rule changes / being dangerous, etc while simultaneously talking about hoping this boxer / fighter knocks out that one and that would be an amazing outcome.

This sport man, it pulls your hair out with the incompetence and double standards all round.





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I get that there needs to be a duty of care but this isn’t a soft sport, it has full contact and that comes with inherent risks that players are fully aware of when they pursue a career in it and are very healthily compensated. These days no one can say they don’t know the risks if they play. So why does it need to be over-policed?

I know @McHunt doesn’t like ref bagging and to be honest, I do see his point to an extent but I think most fans will generally accept bad decisions will happen from time to time on field. I think what is really driving fans nuts is that the captain’s challenge and bunker were supposedly bought in so that the howlers could be taken out of the game and the game can speed up. Well the opposite has happened. The bunker makes dumb calls despite all the evidence to the contrary and backs up some howlers that are made on field. Then the judiciary and moron in charge of refs comes out be close fans dumb by making up de rules to justify said mistake or using a completely different precedent. On field decisions they are poor in the best of the moment I can cop, doubled down stupidity that flies in the face of the evidence I can not.

Also because apparently fans wanted a faster game, six agains were introduced which no one wanted and I don’t believe many want to this day. The effect of a faster game with stronger, bigger and faster players is that they are under more fatigue. So players are being penalised because of previous stupid decisions made by the administration being doubled down as players bear the effects of more fatigue and subsequent increased risk of things going wrong.

So on the one hand, they are talking about duty of care and trying to stamp things out of the game while actively making rules that increase the danger to duty of care. It is hypocritical. Then on top of all of that, they double down on it by cross promoting boxing / MMA. Kent is the perfect example of this hypocrisy. He seems to be clearly mandated to promote the NRL at ever post and constantly goes off his nut about fans not being supportive of these rule changes / being dangerous, etc while simultaneously talking about hoping this boxer / fighter knocks out that one and that would be an amazing outcome.

This sport man, it pulls your hair out with the incompetence and double standards all round.


 

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