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Reynolds magic there.


 
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That is a Manly fan! 🤣

Even richer coming from him then. Manly softer than siebolds gut


 
So over the past few years we have seen gender fluid, preferred pronouns and ' if you believe you are something no one has the right to not to believe you' but what's going on with the pasifika players names???

I get that players want their names said correctly BUT what's doing with Marty Tapau? At the tigers he was Tapau. At Manly he was Tapau. But now he's at the Broncs he's something completely different apprently. ..... WTF is going on.
 
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So over the past few years we have seen gender fluid, preferred pronouns and ' if you believe you are something no one has the right to not to believe you' but what's going on with the pasifika players names???

I get that players want their names said correctly BUT what's doing with Marty Tapau? At the tigers he was Tapau. At Manly he was Tapau. But now he's at the Broncs he's something completely different apprently. ..... WTF is going on.



Simply a case of the broadcasters finally doing a thorough job of asking every player in the NRL for the proper pronunciation of their surnames, and then committing to pronouncing them correctly


 
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So over the past few years we have seen gender fluid, preferred pronouns and ' if you believe you are something no one has the right to not to believe you' but what's going on with the pasifika players names???

I get that players want their names said correctly BUT what's doing with Marty Tapau? At the tigers he was Tapau. At Manly he was Tapau. But now he's at the Broncs he's something completely different apprently. ..... WTF is going on.



I'm sure It's Taupau! 🤣


 
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**** yeah guys!!! All 3 get up, the rest of the comp can get ****ed!!


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Today has been an absolute slam dunk for NRL consistency.


 
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Walking In Vince Mcmahon GIF by WWE


If only the Knights got up. Bloody Obrien.


 
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Did the Bronco's win? 🤣


 
The commentator’s questions are so brain-dead and stupid… fancy asking a pro footy player if he took a challenge from an opposition player personally? Of course he didn’t, he focused on the job he had to do and got on with it. Stupid inane questions.
 
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Simply a case of the broadcasters finally doing a thorough job of asking every player in the NRL for the proper pronunciation of their surnames, and then committing to pronouncing them correctly



i get that completely, but Marty has had the chance to join the name bus for years and only now chooses to jump. Find it funny that's all re marty...... who was the first player to swap it up? Josh Papalii?
 
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Mal - Titans' dude getting 10 in the bin - it was harsh
Cronk - Melbourne dude getting 10 in the bin - it was harsh

No vested interests there at all.


 
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i get that completely, but Marty has had the chance to join the name bus for years and only now chooses to jump. Find it funny that's all re marty...... who was the first player to swap it up? Josh Papalii?




I think it was the Mata'utias. I don't think they could even agree on the pronunciation between themselves


 
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i get that completely, but Marty has had the chance to join the name bus for years and only now chooses to jump. Find it funny that's all re marty...... who was the first player to swap it up? Josh Papalii?




Australian commentators (and Daryl Halligan) have been cringey as **** forever over their pronunciation of Māori and Pasifika names. Not taking the time to get a person's name right borders on being offensive.

It is about time that they actually tried to get it right rather than virtue-signaling cultural initiatives.

I come across a bit strong there, but it really is the most basic form of respect and acknowledgment of a person. It is a commentators professional responsibility.

Many players would be backward in coming forward due to years of systemic racism and their natural deference. I think one of the big turning points was Erin Molan's Hooka, Looka, Mooka comment.

It might not be a big deal to you, but it would be a very big deal to some of the players and their connections with their identitiy, culture and ancestors.


 
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Australian commentators (and Daryl Halligan) have been cringey as **** forever over their pronunciation of Māori and Pasifika names. Not taking the time to get a person's name right borders on being offensive.

It is about time that they actually tried to get it right rather than virtue-signaling cultural initiatives.

I come across a bit strong there, but it really is the most basic form of respect and acknowledgment of a person. It is a commentators professional responsibility.

Many players would be backward in coming forward due to years of systemic racism and their natural deference. I think one of the big turning points was Erin Molan's Hooka, Looka, Mooka comment.

It might not be a big deal to you, but it would be a very big deal to some of the players and their connections with their identitiy, culture and ancestors.




I agree with what you're saying, I think why people are questioning Marty is he's been playing for over a decade and built his whole brand around the Ta-pow pronunciation to only voice how it's supposed to be pronounced it once he came to Brisbane this year, so people are puzzled as to why it took so long for the correction


 
Good grief… I hope they don’t start trying to pronounce my surname of welsh origin in the welsh dialect. I couldn’t myself.
 
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I agree with what you're saying, I think why people are questioning Marty is he's been playing for over a decade and built his whole brand around the Ta-pow pronunciation to only voice how it's supposed to be pronounced it once he came to Brisbane this year, so people are puzzled as to why it took so long for the correction




I can't explain that or why several hundred other players haven't done so over the years. I'd imagine that there is a air of futility about it all for them. Trying to fit in to the dominant culture.

As a teacher I see the same reluctance to correct people of authority in schools, and as a teacher I also know that it really, really is important for students.

This is not snowflake stuff, this is someone's actual identity, and more more importantly for Māori, their whakapapa.


 
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I mean, ex-players aren't pin ups of normal English words, it isn't surprising they have trouble with names they aren't familiar with.


 
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I just think it's a lack of proper professionalism in the commentary sphere, it's their jobs to know all the player names for the game, it surely isn't hard to call up each team and ask them how each name is pronounced if they don't know it.


 

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