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Penalties 9 to 1 to titans.

Well the referee is entitled to one mistake.

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I still cant get over how dumb the Titans were. Parras makeshift left side was barely tested. They kept attacking their right side with an actual winger playing wing and a center playing center.

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I just looked back into it mate he hits him in the head... I'm happy with it now.
Similar to those arms sliding up from shoulder except way more forceful... Was legit their 5th penalty straight too even without the rule around those player lying down situations.

First contact was shoulder but then proceeds to hit him flush in the head.

Brimson should have come from the field 100%, but was always going to go close to a sin bin.

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No issue with the penalty…sin bin went too far. Plenty in the post show agree as well…

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No issue with the penalty…sin bin went too far. Plenty in the post show agree as well…

Isn't the rule though with those situations is it can't be a penalty unless on report or binned. If he's on report and that's their 5th in a row I'm going mental if he's not sent.

On a side note - Not whinging about any call surrounding it but in Sami's try interested to hear people's thoughts on whether AJ was tripped by Moses or if Moses was playing at the ball and leg gets in the way.

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Isn't the rule though with those situations is it can't be a penalty unless on report or binned. If he's on report and that's their 5th in a row I'm going mental if he's not sent.

On a side note - Not whinging about any call surrounding it but in Sami's try interested to hear people's thoughts on whether AJ was tripped by Moses or if Moses was playing at the ball and leg gets in the way.
Edit: On second look nevermind.

I thought a case could be made that Moses tripped him on the way through... but it would be a hard one to call.

He kicked it through and Moses chucked a leg out... but then he kept his leg out. I think Moses knew he by keeping his leg there he was making it hard for Brimson to get through

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No issue with the penalty…sin bin went too far. Plenty in the post show agree as well…

It's not black and white but when you make forceful contact to the head you're running that risk. I didn't see the post-game panel, but I'd imagine the decision would sit easier if Brimson had to also come from the field.

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Isn't the rule though with those situations is it can't be a penalty unless on report or binned. If he's on report and that's their 5th in a row I'm going mental if he's not sent.

On a side note - Not whinging about any call surrounding it but in Sami's try interested to hear people's thoughts on whether AJ was tripped by Moses or if Moses was playing at the ball and leg gets in the way.

Can be a penalty and on report, doesn’t need to be a binning. First contact of course but in all honestly how many tackles that first hit shoulder/arm and then go to the head are binned? It’s usually just a penalty even if on report.

Not sure why you keep referring to the 9 in a row (not sure what number the Paulo one was) because they were all different enough or spaced out to not warrant any repeat warnings. At no stage was it a situation of Gutho next one gets sent

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It's not black and white but when you make forceful contact to the head you're running that risk. I didn't see the post-game panel, but I'd imagine the decision would sit easier if Brimson had to also come from the field.

Forceful is up for debate…how many players are binned for tackles that hit arm/shoulder and go to head after? Penalty sure but not many binned.

Regardless, didn’t cost parra the game so it’s probably going to be deservedly quickly forgotten about

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Can she sue for assault ?

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I assume it's classed as trespassing so she's fair game as far as being subdued with reasonable force. She didn't get punched, kicked or dropped on her head so there's little recourse to sue when she's breaking the 'law' in the first place

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Has everyone just slept through the last year? The sin bin wasn’t in the slightest bit controversial, If it was Flegler there wouldn’t even be a discussion. He’s going to be missing a few games. But it’s a Sydney club, so it becomes controversial 🙄

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Can be a penalty and on report, doesn’t need to be a binning. First contact of course but in all honestly how many tackles that first hit shoulder/arm and then go to the head are binned? It’s usually just a penalty even if on report.

Not sure why you keep referring to the 9 in a row (not sure what number the Paulo one was) because they were all different enough or spaced out to not warrant any repeat warnings. At no stage was it a situation of Gutho next one gets sent

Spaced out but 5 in 20 minutes isn't normal mate. That's just about 1 every 2-3 sets. None were for slow off the ruck either so decent infringements. Anyways enough about that he got binned as players have been for a while for forceful contact to the head. Problem is also it is his shoulder hitting the head with absolutely no wrapping until a second after. If it's an arm that bounces off the shoulder probably just a penalty. Whatever though neither of us is going to change their mind and that's fine.

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Has everyone just slept through the last year? The sin bin wasn’t in the slightest bit controversial, If it was Flegler there wouldn’t even be a discussion. He’s going to be missing a few games. But it’s a Sydney club, so it becomes controversial 🙄

I said exactly this in game haha. Both with Flegler and him getting a $500 instead of weeks.

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Forceful is up for debate…how many players are binned for tackles that hit arm/shoulder and go to head after? Penalty sure but not many binned.

Regardless, didn’t cost parra the game so it’s probably going to be deservedly quickly forgotten about

What's there to debate? Big Paulo lined him up for a shot, if that isn't forceful then what is?

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What's there to debate? Big Paulo lined him up for a shot, if that isn't forceful then what is?

There is no grade as ‘forceful’, unless I’m mistaken, at the judiciary. That is what will be up for debate.

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There is no grade as ‘forceful’, unless I’m mistaken, at the judiciary. That is what will be up for debate.

The judiciary doesn't rule on sin-bins that's for the bunker to decide.

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There is no grade as ‘forceful’, unless I’m mistaken, at the judiciary. That is what will be up for debate.

It's an awkward one...
"* Foul Play - A player will be sin binned for foul play in circumstances where, in the opinion of the referee, the act of foul play is of a serious nature, but does not warrant sending off. Acts of foul play of a serious nature include:

» High Tackles with direct contact with the head or neck which are deemed forceful."
I guess you could argue it wasn't direct contact.

If they go for shoulder charge though,
"» Shoulder charges which make forceful contact with the head or neck of the attacking player or make forceful movement of the head or neck of the attacking player (whiplash)"
(I don't reckon it is but his arms are down by his sides when he makes contact.)

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The judiciary doesn't rule on sin-bins that's for the bunker to decide.

But it’s on report right? That is what I mean will be up for debate in terms of careless/reckless/dangerous etc

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It's an awkward one...
"* Foul Play - A player will be sin binned for foul play in circumstances where, in the opinion of the referee, the act of foul play is of a serious nature, but does not warrant sending off. Acts of foul play of a serious nature include:

» High Tackles with direct contact with the head or neck which are deemed forceful."
I guess you could argue it wasn't direct contact.

If they go for shoulder charge though,
"» Shoulder charges which make forceful contact with the head or neck of the attacking player or make forceful movement of the head or neck of the attacking player (whiplash)"
(I don't reckon it is but his arms are down by his sides when he makes contact.)

Last I’ll say on it because I don’t care that much other that I think a penalty sufficed.

Direct contact was clear as day shoulder so direct tackle to head is out.

It wasn’t foul play.

shoulder charge, I don’t think so either.

Maybe grade 1 or 2 careless, don’t know and don’t care as we aren’t playing parra next

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It's an awkward one...
"* Foul Play - A player will be sin binned for foul play in circumstances where, in the opinion of the referee, the act of foul play is of a serious nature, but does not warrant sending off. Acts of foul play of a serious nature include:

» High Tackles with direct contact with the head or neck which are deemed forceful."
I guess you could argue it wasn't direct contact.

If they go for shoulder charge though,
"» Shoulder charges which make forceful contact with the head or neck of the attacking player or make forceful movement of the head or neck of the attacking player (whiplash)"
(I don't reckon it is but his arms are down by his sides when he makes contact.)

Nvm judiciary I have no idea they make that stuff up half the time I swear.

No consistency though from the bunker or the match officials. Herbert clearly hit Opacic high, and nothing was given. They he back slammed the same player into the ground causing his head to forcefully hit the floor and again, nothing given. If they are going to argue for player safety, they have to be consistent.

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No consistency though from the bunker or the match officials. Herbert clearly hit Opacic high, and nothing was given. Then he back slammed the same player into the ground causing his head to forcefully hit the floor and again, nothing given. If they are going to argue for player safety, they have to be consistent.

Apologies, I honestly don't remember the high shot. On the back slam... Admittedly, I was a bit annoyed we were behind by 14 so was happy someone was putting shots on at least. Looked bad though. Only felt bad at the time because I actually like Opacic. If it was Moses I'd be watching it on repeat.

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