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The reffing in the game against Melbourne just straight up changed the result.


 
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cody kane on fox really looks like mega mind


 
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cody kane on fox really looks like mega mind

I see it!


 
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Re: the location of magic round, I'm not going to argue Brisbane just deserves it.

There are two "reasons" for Magic round:
The NRL says growing the game but the real reason is to extract some cash from the hosting state government. The government says tourism but it's so they can say "this event is pumping x amount into the economy, look how good we are. X is the best place".

So the future host will be determined by which government is willing to stump up the most cash. And the tourism numbers are going to drive that.

Townsville isn't going to get it because a 25,000 seat stadium is too small.

Darwin, same reason.

Perth has the right size but WA isn't as interested in tourism as the east coast states.

Adelaide and Melbourne have big ovals but league is a micky mouse sport compared to AFL and the political mileage isnt as great.

For Sydney, the tourism arguement is harder because the majority of teams are already based in and around Sydney. Putting together a triple header is child's play.

But the reality is when it comes to Brisbane vs Sydney, it's just the NRL playing each state government as usual.

New Zealand is the actual best choice for the supposed reasons for magic round - growing the game and tourism. League may take a back-seat to yawnion but it's closer than AFL is. NZ is also reliant on tourism.

TLDR: it's all about which government can offer the most dollarydoos and which government can justify those dollarydoos.


 
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Just have two magic rounds and change the name to Brisbane round and have the NZ one Auckland round having it at Eden park.

No where else makes sense for it, Sydney basically has Magic round every week.


 
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Well, well… look at the parochial donkey fans arguing to keep this farce of a round at Suncorp. Of course you would when you are given an extra home ground game on top of the ridiculous leg up you already received over the first 10 round scheduling. Perhaps now that you have been legged back up to a competitive force by the NRL you can get your regular Friday night game schedule reinstated.



Not our fault your club wants to cash in on us wanting to support our team. You should be grateful, if it wasn’t for us buying tickets to your home game up here every year the last few years you guys wouldn’t have been able to afford your new stadium 😜


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You know, the last time Manly got to play their actual home game against the donkeys was in 2014. Get your head around that. And yet, we are suppose to go on celebrating this concept because it serves certain powers… and let’s just ignore any effort to have a level playing field. The whole reason we have this scenario is because of the already unfair advantages the donkeys enjoy as a one team town with a huge fan base.



In all seriousness though mate is it not the Manly board who wanted to take the game up here because there was money to be made? Has nothing to do with us except we were obviously happy with the arrangement so go along with it.

it started with a single game, then they started doing double headers, then the magic round grew from that.


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In all seriousness though mate is it not the Manly board who wanted to take the game up here because there was money to be made? Has nothing to do with us except we were obviously happy with the arrangement so go along with it.

it started with a single game, then they started doing double headers, then the magic round grew from that.

Yeah, this. The double header became Manly v Broncos and Storm V Dogs didn't it?

Now that it's become a thing though, I wouldn't care if they changed the match ups tbh.


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Yeah, this. The double header became Manly v Broncos and Storm V Dogs didn't it?

Now that it's become a thing though, I wouldn't care if they changed the match ups tbh.
Bulldogs/Titans.

The Bulldogs brought their Titans game up here from 2009-12 and Manly did it once in 2011 before virtually doing it full-time in 2016.


 
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If we were running magic round at Accor every year, and the donkeys were giving up their home games to play against the rabbitohs, we would never hear the end of it from north of the border. The Qlders would be screaming blue murder against the NSWRL for conspiring to rip off the QLD teams…



That's the thing though, we don't give up our home games for anything, because no matter where we go it won't pull the same as being at home.

Blame Manly's board for selling out.


 
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That's the thing though, we don't give up our home games for anything, because no matter where we go it won't pull the same as being at home.

Blame Manly's board for selling out.

Blame Manly's local fans for making it more viable for the club to get a better turnout in Brisbane than at home...


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Re: the location of magic round, I'm not going to argue Brisbane just deserves it.

There are two "reasons" for Magic round:
The NRL says growing the game but the real reason is to extract some cash from the hosting state government. The government says tourism but it's so they can say "this event is pumping x amount into the economy, look how good we are. X is the best place".

So the future host will be determined by which government is willing to stump up the most cash. And the tourism numbers are going to drive that.

Townsville isn't going to get it because a 25,000 seat stadium is too small.

Darwin, same reason.

Perth has the right size but WA isn't as interested in tourism as the east coast states.

Adelaide and Melbourne have big ovals but league is a micky mouse sport compared to AFL and the political mileage isnt as great.

For Sydney, the tourism arguement is harder because the majority of teams are already based in and around Sydney. Putting together a triple header is child's play.

But the reality is when it comes to Brisbane vs Sydney, it's just the NRL playing each state government as usual.

New Zealand is the actual best choice for the supposed reasons for magic round - growing the game and tourism. League may take a back-seat to yawnion but it's closer than AFL is. NZ is also reliant on tourism.

TLDR: it's all about which government can offer the most dollarydoos and which government can justify those dollarydoos.
NZ sucks as an option because the stadiums aren't near a social hub like Suncorp is. Fans might go the first year but you're just going to get social fans and not the rusted on, 3 days of footy fans that actually travel for this weekend. Brisbane is the only place it works, and for NZ fans to whinge that they deserve something when QLD have done far more and get very little just handed to them from the NRL, it's just crap.


 
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Surely the time zone would rule out both Perth and NZ though? They'd have to get very creative to make it work.


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Sydney should do a triple header or two every year. Say Parramatta, Bulldogs and the Tigers play a Saturday at Commbank or Bulldogs, Souths and the Roosters play a Saturday and Accor? Call it the Sydney Splurge Round or some ****.

Then give NZ the pre-season grand final, modern nines equivalent or something they actually deserve. Maybe play a rugby game after it.


 
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I think it would require a big bid for the NRL to even consider moving Magic round, it sold out completely this year and there is genuine momentum that feels like it's getting bigger each year.

If they found a weekend that had a public holiday they could stretch it out to 4 days and make even more.


 
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The only place with almost as good an event precinct as Suncorp is Melbourne, but screw them. And it’d have to be Marvel Stadium on the oval field to get the big crowd so screw that too.


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I just don't know when you could have it in Melbourne. During the AFL season, the CBD is basically a Magic Round every weekend with fans all congregating and packing the trains, busses and trams to get to the game. Whatever novelty the NRL might have would be absolutely lost presently.

Maybe in 5-10 years time if the NRL does a great job of building it as an event but I can't envision it at the moment.

What say you @Sproj/Victorians of BHQ.


 
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NZ sucks as an option because the stadiums aren't near a social hub like Suncorp is. Fans might go the first year but you're just going to get social fans and not the rusted on, 3 days of footy fans that actually travel for this weekend. Brisbane is the only place it works, and for NZ fans to whinge that they deserve something when QLD have done far more and get very little just handed to them from the NRL, it's just crap.
Eden Park?

I do agree though that it should stay in Brisbane.


 
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The only place with almost as good an event precinct as Suncorp is Melbourne, but screw them. And it’d have to be Marvel Stadium on the oval field to get the big crowd so screw that too.

I just don't know when you could have it in Melbourne. During the AFL season, the CBD is basically a Magic Round every weekend with fans all congregating and packing the trains, busses and trams to get to the game. Whatever novelty the NRL might have would be absolutely lost presently.

Maybe in 5-10 years time if the NRL does a great job of building it as an event but I can't envision it at the moment.

What say you @Sproj/Victorians of BHQ.

You could do it on the round that the AFL designates as their magic round (different name of course) which this year, was Adelaide. That weekend there are no games in Victoria, so you could do that but it would be bold, it would be taken as a direct attack on the AFL and I do not think this is in the NRL's best interests to do that. If they bought the AFL's ire on them, the NRL don't have the business / professional acumen to win that fight.

The NRL should build magic round and then look at another location in addition but not attacking AFL heartland, it won't work.


 
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Just finished watching a replay of Panthers v Warriors on Youtube.

Hate to say it, but Warriors' ill-discipline cost them that match.


 
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