yeah true garts...Herbet was a big hit with the Crushers as well....who else...well A Walker was going fine when he left league the first time, went to union carved, drank alot to get over the fact he was playing union- STILL picked in the Aussie side, and then returns to league and gets himself in trouble with the Charlie Chan (hardly a performance enhancing drug which I'm sure most professional rugby league players have dabbled in....but that's another story)