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Captain Moondog

Absolute Superstar

NRL expansion: Queensland teams could be under threat if second Brisbane team is launched​

The ARL Commission have been left with a huge problem after an independent report raised serious concerns for four teams, including the premiers, if a second Brisbane side is launched.

Peter Badel and Brent Read

An independent report into NRL expansion has warned a 17th team in 2023 could cannibalise Queensland’s three clubs – and decimate NRL premiers Melbourne Storm.
A $100,000 probe conducted by the Gemba Group into NRL expansion, funded by 12 of the 16 clubs, has raised major concerns over a proposed second Brisbane team stealing fans, sponsors and players from the Broncos, Titans and Cowboys.

The findings will pique the interest of the ARL Commission, who are undertaking their own analysis of expansion after last month issuing expressions of interest to Brisbane’s prospective franchises the Dolphins, Jets and Firehawks.
ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys is keen to grow the code in Queensland to combat the threat of AFL’s Brisbane Lions, but he has always cautioned he will not rubberstamp expansion if it is a threat to Broncos, Titans and Cowboys.

Now there is some opposition to expansion, with the Gemba report raising serious ramifications for Queensland’s three teams if a second Brisbane side is launched to rival the Broncos.

The ARL Commission has also been warned another expansion outpost in Melbourne - the NRL’s premier performing club of the past two decades - risked being eroded because of the heavy supply of Queensland-born players to the Storm.

According to a section of the Gemba report, leaked to News Corp, the probe raised fears about damage to the NRL’s on-field product because the existing 16 teams would lose a combined 34 players, eroding playing depth.

There is also a risk launching a fourth Queensland team would lead to inflationary pressures for cash-strapped clubs, not only on player salaries, but coaching, high-performance and administration staff.

The Firehawks, Jets and Dolphins submitted their bid documents a fortnight ago and are set for formal meetings with the ARL Commission in the coming weeks with a view to a definitive call on expansion in mid-to-late July.
The report added that there was some upside in expansion – more teams would mean more games and potentially generate more revenue. However, the existing clubs point out that you don’t need to add another team to create more games.
 
The greater S E of Queensland and the Sunshine coast has increased considerably in population since the inception of the Bronco 's entry into the N R L . Well even the majority of Qld for that matter . Not to take into account the still remaining talent pool from the Kumals , Fiji , New Zealand , E S L . If there can still be 9 viable greater Sydney based teams , surely Greater Brisbane can support 2 . , taking into account that the Titans catchment area also takes in part of northern N S W . Cowboy"s catchment area extends into central Queensland. If not 2023 or whenever the proposed new Qld side is due to start , surely not too far into the future , all things being normal .
 
What a load of "maybe" and "might" dribble ... as independent as the 16 clubs that don't want expansion .. that financed it ....
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reported the 9 sydney clubs commissioned there own report fearing expansion would hurt them supporting your claims. is this that report or another by qld clubs or NRL ?
 
reported the 9 sydney clubs commissioned there own report fearing expansion would hurt them supporting your claims. is this that report or another by qld clubs or NRL ?

Don't know mate ... but I question both the independence of, and capacity for a 3rd party to get reliable information ... how forthcoming and truthful would Broadcasters, clubs, the Players assoc., the NRL current sponsors etc be when and if they deigned to give information ... at best it is a list of the possible well known pit-falls ... which is exactly what the clubs wanted to get ..

I always love the old furphy that there aren't enough good players to go around .... and yet every single year we unearth talent ... this year alone we have seen the rise of Schuster, Sam Walker, Saab, Nico Hynes, Walsh, Guacamole, Lawton, Campbell, and many others ... plus players like Sipley, and Harper who wouldn't have got a run other than injuries rise to the occasion ... and the same goes for all the clubs ..
 
Don't know mate ... but I question both the independence of, and capacity for a 3rd party to get reliable information ... how forthcoming and truthful would Broadcasters, clubs, the Players assoc., the NRL current sponsors etc be when and if they deigned to give information ... at best it is a list of the possible well known pit-falls ... which is exactly what the clubs wanted to get ..

I always love the old furphy that there aren't enough good players to go around .... and yet every single year we unearth talent ... this year alone we have seen the rise of Schuster, Sam Walker, Saab, Nico Hynes, Walsh, Guacamole, Lawton, Campbell, and many others ... plus players like Sipley, and Harper who wouldn't have got a run other than injuries rise to the occasion ... and the same goes for all the clubs ..
Agree and most often the players moved to superleague are about poor contracts than ability.
 
Agree and most often the players moved to superleague are about poor contracts than ability.

Yep, teams that are well managed willcontinue to have good rosters and attract players ... and teams that are run like cluster-roots will continue to struggle until they wake up ..

An interesting fact is that the Bronco's will have 9 players playing SOO this weekend ... the funny part is that none of them play for the Bronco's any more ... if your R & R is a basketcase .. having only 2 teams isn't going to help you ...
 
Yep, teams that are well managed willcontinue to have good rosters and attract players ... and teams that are run like cluster-roots will continue to struggle until they wake up ..

An interesting fact is that the Bronco's will have 9 players playing SOO this weekend ... the funny part is that none of them play for the Bronco's any more ... if your R & R is a basketcase .. having only 2 teams isn't going to help you ...
The new parramatta
 
Decimate the scum, well boo hoo, haven’t they received truck loads of cash to assist in growing the game in Vic, instead they continuously use qld as they nursery. Why not just move the scum up to qld then
 
100k fmd, blind Freddie could've seen this! I could have told them this for 75k ;)
 
I always love the old furphy that there aren't enough good players to go around .... and yet every single year we unearth talent ... this year alone we have seen the rise of Schuster, Sam Walker, Saab, Nico Hynes, Walsh, Guacamole, Lawton, Campbell, and many others ... plus players like Sipley, and Harper who wouldn't have got a run other than injuries rise to the occasion ... and the same goes for all the clubs ..

100% this

Plus Vunivali, Koribete, Radradra, Widdop, Walmsly, D Clark, Austin, Seizer, Inglis, Maloney, Bateman, J Reynolds, Tomkins, French etc etc

Then seemingly unwanted players like Norman, Dugan, Milford, Fifita even our own Taufua

Then fringe players/guys looking to break through like Cust, Billy Smith.

Another squad could easily be put together
 
The poor Broncos have only had first mover advantage since 1988 (with the slight disruption of the Crushers, which the Broncos managed to eliminate by starting their own competition). It’s perfectly understandable that they want a bit more time to establish themselves before opening themselves up to competition.
 

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