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Player age and Grand Final winning teams

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by voicefromthehill, Jun 19, 2012.

  1. voicefromthehill

    voicefromthehill Well-Known Member Premium Member

    +1,608 /13
    On this site there is regular debate on the merits of a youth policy vs age when it comes to Rugby League teams. So being a bit of a nerd, and having some free time while I ran the worlds biggest macro I thought why not look at the last 14 years GF winning teams and see the teams that they fielded. Some interesting info (if you are that way inclined)

    Basis, I took the age of the player in the GF team on GF day

    Youngest player - 17 (Israel Folau)
    Oldest - 34 (Beaver)
    Avg Age - 24years, 12months 4 days (or 25 if you will)
    Median Age - 25

    From that you can make an inference, being that the ultimate age for a premiership winning player is 25.

    Now to give you the breakup of the ultimate GF squad based on age distribution of all GF winning teams - taking the ratio of representation over the last 14 years

    17-20 - 2 players
    21-23 - 5 players
    24-26 - 5 players
    27-29 - 3 players
    30+ 2 players

    What does that tell you, what many of us have assumed - you need a good representation across age brackets, but a weighting towards the more mature (24 +).

    Now all we need to do is find the best players to fill my newly discovered age bracket cap and we have a winning squad.
  2. Jatz Crackers

    Jatz Crackers Moderator Staff Member

    +1,471 /8
    Nice research work VFTH.
  3. voicefromthehill

    voicefromthehill Well-Known Member Premium Member

    +1,608 /13
    Cheers - too much time on my hands today

    Now here is a crazy coincidence the teams that won from 2000-2002 (Broncos, Knights, Roosters) All had a playing squad on GF day of the same average age

    24 years, 9 months, 14 days, queue X-Files music
  4. Bradza

    Bradza Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +790 /9
    Good stuff VFTH. So what was our average age for the 2008 & 11 GF winning teams?
  5. voicefromthehill

    voicefromthehill Well-Known Member Premium Member

    +1,608 /13
    2008 = oldest team
    26 years 3 months 26 days - this was aided by having Steve Menzies and Bell in the team

    2011 = 25 years 10 months 27 Days, they were the second oldest

    Youngest is Melbourne in '07 23 Years, 5 months 8 Days - Israel Folau influenced that
  6. The Who

    The Who Well-Known Member Premium Member

    +7,247 /173
    Great research. Expect it to be plagurised by the Telecrap soon.

    What is the average age of our top 17 this season?
  7. Volley

    Volley Well-Known Member

    +1,109 /54
    Love it. Nice work voice.
  8. voicefromthehill

    voicefromthehill Well-Known Member Premium Member

    +1,608 /13
    Trying to work out the top 17 (but wouldn't that be open to so much debate!) - and will post it when I have calculated it. The hardest thing is settling on a top 17 in light of our injury issues

    Mate would love it to be plagiarised, stats are my life (might be why I had issues with the ladies growing up), would give me a kick if nothing else.[hr]
    So have thrown together a YART (and given the conjecture around Oldfield I have omitted him), and that we also have those players available (a variable that can't be calculated in the numbers i have done) the team would look something like this

    Brett Stewart - FB
    Dean Whare - Wing
    Jamie Lyon - Centre
    Steve Matai - Centre
    David Williams - Wing
    Kieran Foran - Five Eighth
    Daly Cherry-Evans - Half Back
    Jason King - Prop
    Matt Ballin - Hooker
    Brent Kite - Prop
    Anthony Watmough - second row
    Tony Williams - second row
    Glenn Stewart - Lock
    Jamie Buhrer - Interchange
    Darcey Lussick - Interchange
    Daniel Harrison - Interchange
    George Rose - Interchange

    We would be pushing the rule @ 26 years 3 months and 5 days

    And it pains me to say it - but based on my 1/2 days untested work Ryan might be on the money re ageing team, to a degree... Team distribution is

    17-20 - 0 (no real youth in team ATM) not a must but interesting
    21-23 - 6 (a bit heavy in representation and could point to our defensive issues)
    24-26 - 2 (not enough in the youthful experience brigade)
    27-29 - 6 (maybe getting a bit heavy on the age)
    30+ - 3 (5 teams have done it with 3 30+ players since '98 - '99 Storm; 2000 Broncos' '06 Broncos; '08 Manly; '10 St George. But the representation of youth was better spread)

    Tell you what I am going to go over the best teams for each club in contention (saves calculating Parramatta) and make a fearless prediction. Watch this space
  9. castle eagle

    castle eagle Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +1,032 /9
    don't think they qualify
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    • voicefromthehill

      voicefromthehill Well-Known Member Premium Member

      +1,608 /13
      Thats why I said GF winning team and not premiership - beat you to the punch. But it does highlight how well they went in scouting all these young players; you have to give them that.
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      • firechild

        firechild Active Member

        +65 /0
        Love the stats but I'm going to be a bit pedantic. 24 years, 12 months and 4 does not compute.
      • voicefromthehill

        voicefromthehill Well-Known Member Premium Member

        +1,608 /13
        Ok 4 days into the 12th month

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