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Planning for 2017

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by NYEagle, Jun 20, 2016.

  1. NYEagle

    NYEagle Well-Known Member

    +1,400 /84
    There were just 7 players of first grade standard in this squad of 17 tonight. How can Manly possibly win another game this year other than perhaps Newcastle at home. This is why I'd keep Barrett.

    I felt sorry for Jake T, Buhrer, Parcell and Vave tonight. They absolutely busted their guts, but without first grade standard work around them they are just neutralised out of it doing all the work. Taupau went missing as usual, Taufua is wasted on the wing, and Tom T was hampered as well.

    Manly need a new squad, and before next year. Please clear out all the players under the NSW Cup standard line except for Godinet and Knight.

    First grade standard:

    Tom Trbojevic - champion
    Matt Parcell - a great find
    Martin Taupau - impact player, but goes missing
    Jamie Buhrer - champion
    Jake Trbojevic - champion
    Jorge Taufua - time for the forwards
    Siosaia Vave - Georgie Rose

    NSW cup standard:

    Brett Stewart - finished. Burned out.
    Lewis Brown - arm grabbing, lightweight garbage.
    Brayden Wiliame - lighweight who is horrible in defense.
    Pita Godinet - keep him for later. A spark
    Apisai Koroisau - rubbish. I'm sorry, he's rubbish.
    Darcy Lussick - tries hard but is slow slow slow.
    Josh Starling - tries hard but is slow slow slow.
    Matthew Wright - lighweight whois horrible in defense.
    Blake Leary - tries hard good energy but not first grade standard
    Liam Knight - keep him for later, lets see

    With finals over, time to start planning for 2017.

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    • Budgewoi Eagle

      Budgewoi Eagle In for the long haul. Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor 2017 Tipping Competitor

      +5,817 /82
      Two standouts according to Barrett in the presser. He wondered where we'd be without Api.
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      • NYEagle

        NYEagle Well-Known Member

        +1,400 /84
        Are you serious?
      • Turbo

        Turbo Well-Known Member

        +1,565 /497
        Get Issac John playing when back
      • Budgewoi Eagle

        Budgewoi Eagle In for the long haul. Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor 2017 Tipping Competitor

        +5,817 /82
        I am.
      • EagleFlys

        EagleFlys Well-Known Member

        +850 /66
        I can't even listen to twenty anymore. he is just useless.
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        • king2213

          king2213 Well-Known Member

          +1,157 /185
          Trent Barrett has to go ! even with a full strength side he will fail against the top coaches ! He is in deep water and sinking to the bottom !
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          • Nice Beaver

            Nice Beaver Well-Known Member

            +790 /21
            Keep Knight there with a view to next year.

            He needs to work the silly penalties out of his game and playing with an old heas like Myles will help him no end. At least then we get some value out of Myles!

            And FFS put AFB back in there. Another dozen games in first grade will help him no end.

            Punt Brown and Leary. Williame can go when we get a player or two back also.

            If John is back from injury whack him in there with Lyon back to centre.

            Tom back to the wing to preserve him a bit this year.

            AFB and Knight on the bench with Myles and Lussick starting props. (F*ck my life when Lussick is the best option lol).

            Tapau and Buhrer second row.

            So full bench of AFB, Knight, Starling and Koriosau (when DCE is back)

            Wish we had the luxury of punting Stewart also, but we have no depth and realistically, it would never happen anyway.
          • NYEagle

            NYEagle Well-Known Member

            +1,400 /84
            Then I stand corrected about Trent. He is delusional.
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            • maxta

              maxta Well-Known Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

              +4,490 /100
              I thought Lussick was about the only aggressive forward & played well, apart from the mandatory penalties...at least he had a dig.
              Knight deserves way more time....in fact I think he should get 40 - 50 minutes, not 5.
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              • Dan

                Dan Kim Jong Dan Staff Member Administrator 2016 Tipping Competitor 2017 Tipping Competitor

                +7,730 /120
                Start with this by throwing in this years plans
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                • MadMarcus

                  MadMarcus Local Lunatic 2017 Tipping Competitor

                  +8,375 /74
                  Well the coaching staff were all Centrelink standard.
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                  • susan

                    susan Well-Known Member

                    +2,357 /56
                    No doubt we need
                    No doubt we need a clean out and that is emphasized by the fact people think Jamie Buhrer is a champion. Whole hearted effort does not make you a champion. It gains you respect for sure but Jamie Buhrer in the modern game is a fringe first grader at best.He simply does not possess the physical attributes to make a difference.

                    And anyone who thinks Api should play in the halves needs a long relaxing holiday.His effort is great but his kicking game is simply appalling and his organising skills basic at best. Teams simply target DCE and they shut us down. He won't change that and if Barrett doesn't know that then I give up.
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                    • Ralphie

                      Ralphie Well-Known Member Premium Member

                      +2,936 /287
                      I have booked a long relaxing holiday for September because there will be nothing of interest to me around here in September.
                    • Disco

                      Disco Well-Known Member

                      +1,776 /48
                      This thread is way over the top as our roster is not bad

                      A better statement would be "these players are in NSW Cup form"

                      And Lussick IMO has been one of our best the last few weeks, no problems with his efforts

                      Api as well is a very good player being played out of position being asked to run a team with no recognized halves partner

                      Stewart and Brown are former test players, out of form yes but to say they are NSW Cup standard?????

                      Brett Stewart is a Manly legend, pay him some respect!!

                      Godinet, Williame and Leary I'll give you but Wright and Starling are definitely first grade standard, sure they aren't champions but are no different to the Ryan Morgans and Chese Blairs in Melbourne or the Matt Priors or Jason Bukuya's at the Sharks

                      The issue is getting the team cohesive, working towards a plan and extracting everything from each player

                      And that is a coaching issue
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                      • Loobs

                        Loobs Scott Fulton’s 5th Cousin Premium Member

                        +9,051 /306
                        Buhrer I don't feel cuts it either. He offers nothing in attack except a break for opposing forwards. Just too small and goes down in the tackle too easily. Combined with his injuries I'd add him to the projector slide.
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                        • Clay

                          Clay Well-Known Member

                          +1,532 /66
                          Taufua can't even jump.
                          He needs to change position or change clubs.
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                          • manlyfan76

                            manlyfan76 Parra Trolls are the best. Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

                            +8,020 /174
                            That bomb early on where he just planted his feet was embarrassing, only a Titans drop/ knock on masked how out of depth he was.
                          • Fluffy

                            Fluffy Well-Known Member

                            +5,615 /203
                            Goes back to the days where we had Sam Harris playing 5/8. Teams simply targeted the half (Monas most of the time) and shut down our plan. Things improved when we got Burns and then the final step to get Killer and Orford.

                            This is why Lyon must partner DCE for the rest of the year and we must start with genuine 5/8 next year
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                            • hozza

                              hozza Well-Known Member

                              +531 /16
                              Taufua has been below ordinary forever. Definitely time to go.

                              Brown is without doubt the most overrated utility player in the comp. Bench player at best.

                              William is horrendous and a curse to boot.

                              Stewart unfortunately is done. Huge shame it's come to this for a club legend.

                              Replace these 4 to start. A quality centre,wing and a hard running and working backrower.

                              Mansour, Justin Oneil and Gillett or Lowe. With Lyon retiring and the clean out that will no doubt happen then surely we make a big play for them.
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