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[The Who]

I disagree with most of the sentiment about the media, and I speak from 40 years of experience. The story on Hoppa Jrn was going to be a positive piece on his unexpected selection in the SOO, with smiling photos and "gee shucks" type quotes when his father apparently rings him to stop it. As a result, Hoppa Snr becomes the story and takes the shine from Will.
Hoppa Snr should step out of the spotlight and allow his son the glory he deserves. Most journos want to write upbeat, positive articles, but over the year the general public have become hooked on celebrity and trivial matters so that when somebody well known does something a little out of the ordinary it makes front page and back page news.
Blame the public for their fascination about the lives of 'celebrities' as much as the media for the reporting of it. You just have to go to a newsagency to see how many banal magazines there are.

 

[Rex]

Well isn't Paul Crawley a spoilt brat. A five-year-old having a tantrum. He has an interview temporarily interrupted, there's some consultation, and then he's given permission to proceed. And he makes a mountain out of this tiny little interruption. Poor little princess.

And he points the finger outwards, crying "Dokic-type behaviour"?

 

[brookiegreg]

By the way Manly are getting some fabulous press at the moment - at least all the press that is important in the long run

Its called: winning matches and being second place in the comp!

Yesterday's daily terrograph will be tomorrow's fish n chip paper

 

[MadMarcus]

Lets not forget just who he is comparing Hoppa Snr to:

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/helena-dokics-dad-damir-released-from-prison/story-e6freuy9-1225854343340

And then he has the audacity to wonder aloud why Hoppa Sr wants to keep Hoppa Jr away from the media...

 

[jjai]

Look at jamil he was put in the paper because he was planking (did a story 0n it)???.he is a f**n kid its what kids do ..
Hoppa seniors knows what the media is like.. Wayne Bennett does too, just ignore them they need the stories..

masked eagle i applaud HOPPA SNR for doing what he did even if it was for some of his personal reasons..
THE ARTICLE IS DAMNING as once again they want to put Hoppa SNR in a bad light pretty much like you f**n trying to do,
He is an ex manly premiership winner & you want to bag him out like them (media)>>>>>

What about the posts on here for the last 2 years? Heck, even for parts of this season. I dare say we have been more critical of our players, coaches, CEO, games plan etc more than any media organisation.<<<

They are different mate we love MANLY regardless, we might have our dumb azz opinions some not so great some good, but all in all we still LOVE the TEAM, unlike the DT ..

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If your talking about the original SOO story as not being too DAMNING..look at what's happened because a father wanted best for his son..

 

[Masked Eagle]

That's your opinion. I agree to a point. Good debate!

Listen, I do understand where everyone is coming from. I just think its over the top and its every single time anything remotely bad is written about us its always a conspiracy and an outrage in some peoples eyes.

Disagreement with civility, on a forum no less. Good Lord!!!!! It is good to get in a debate with you all without it resorting to juvenile and pretty lame insults.

 

[dowdz]

Was Will saying anything wrong for John to call him and say stop? If it was a feel good story on Will and how good this year has been for him, then why ruin it for him with his own media hate? We all know the media suck but it should be a good time for Will.

 

[Rex]

Paul Crawley and the DT in this little hissy-fit, have shown once again why they simply cannot be trusted.

Anyone who has difficulty understanding Hoppa snr's distrust, might ponder for just two seconds the hatchet jobs done by these people on Hoppa snr & Jamil. And they will turn on Will in one second if and when it suits them.

What struck me, once again, is the total loyalty shown by Will in all this. Not once has he sought the easy route, or shown an ounce of disloyalty to his father. A real team player. My respect for him grows every day.

 

[Berkeley_Eagle]

LOL they added 2 comments, bet there were a heap more,
Mark from Brissie got his up though

Mark of Brisbane Posted at 7:08 AM June 08, 2011
Paul if this paper can first start to forget John Hopoate past and then young Will can. To say the kid did nothing wrong except listen to his father's advice what right do you have or anyone too Judge John Hopoate as a father you only have to look at Will Hopoate to realise John has done a magnificent job raising his son so. Honestly is this a newsworthy story again.
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SouthernSeaEagle of Melbourne Posted at 8:36 AM June 08, 2011
i think the worst thing about John Hopoate is that the media take any small thing and make Hoppa into some whack job. Fair enough, he has done some stupid things on and off the field, but this story should be about William. John has called his son and offered advice, William took the advice. That is a family matter, it doesnt make John a whack job. It just makes him a parent. Its not the media's right to be able to talk with a person.
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[The Who]

The smartest thing any sportsperson or businessperson can do is cultivate a good relationship with the media. If you help them out they will reciprocate. When you want to boost your profile (to help your club, to raise your chances of a higher salary, to gain endorsements etc) the media is a great ally. If you maintain close relationships they are more likely to overlook, or go easy, on any mistakes you make on and off the field.
It's just common sense - that's why players and clubs have PR people, media advisers etc. A good media profile also helps you in later life when you have to forge a career away from sport.
Frankly I believe the worst thing Will can do is listen to his father when it comes to dealing with the media. He always seemed to go about it the wrong way.
You see, if a journo is asked to write a story on someone, and that person shuns them, they end up with having to fill the hole with what certainly will be negative, made-up gossip or opinion.
It's the same in life; someone brushes you then you'll revert to bad-mouthing them on forums such as this.

 

[jjai]

You see, if a journo is asked to write a story on someone, and that person shuns them, they end up with having to fill the hole with what certainly will be negative, made-up gossip or opinion.
It's the same in life; someone brushes you then you'll revert to bad-mouthing them on forums such as this.

Thats even more reasons to shun them, they will make something up to fill the hole will they.. When they start treating humans properly then they will be treated with more respect, but threatening (as you put)to write a negative story if they dont get what they want is even worse..

No wonder Bennett treats them the way he does he dont seem too affected it by it WHO..
Are you saying Wayne Bennett is wrong too???

 

[The Who]

You see, if a journo is asked to write a story on someone, and that person shuns them, they end up with having to fill the hole with what certainly will be negative, made-up gossip or opinion.
It's the same in life; someone brushes you then you'll revert to bad-mouthing them on forums such as this.

Thats even more reasons to shun them, they will make something up to fill the hole will they.. When they start treating humans properly then they will be treated with more respect, but threatening (as you put)to write a negative story if they dont get what they want is even worse..

No wonder Bennett treats them the way he does he dont seem too affected it by it WHO..
Are you saying Wayne Bennett is wrong too???

I've been in journalism and PR for 40 years, and gaining positive press is what people and companies pay professionals like me to achieve. It is imperative that you help journos do their job. The more you provide them with the more of what you want to appear will. If you don't comment then there is only one side of the story put forward.
Wayne Bennett has done a disservice to RL by not being more open. He should have promoted the game more. He's lucky that his results are so good that he has gained respect and credibility.
I'm not sure of what profession you work in but if you want to promote it you need to speak to the media - or spend a great deal on advertising.

 

[Stevo]

Why does Wayne Bennett owe anything to Rugby League?

 

[The Who]

Why does Wayne Bennett owe anything to Rugby League?

He owes everything to it. It's his profession and pays his handsome wage so he should be helping it prosper so that there is an opportunity for 'another' young Bennett to enter the coaching ranks.
Just as if you are, say, a plumber. By putting the profession in the best light you increase its standing in the community, resulting in better standards, higher pay, and more people wanting to become plumbers.

I would hope that you put your profession, and whoever you work for, in the best possible light. By gaining favourable media coverage you are helping to do this.

 

[Rex]

The implicit message in your view, Who, is that the media can be as unprofessional and attacking as they like, and you need to roll over and effectively endorse their actions by kowtowing to what ever they want. Just show them your arse again so they can do you over once more.

It's a two-way street mate. They act professionally, you act professionally. They are accountable for their actions. If you had your reputation repeatedly trashed like Snake has, like Hoppa senior has, and now Jamil, then your view may be different.

 

[wombatgc]

I've been in journalism and PR for 40 years, and gaining positive press is what people and companies pay professionals like me to achieve. It is imperative that you help journos do their job. The more you provide them with the more of what you want to appear will. If you don't comment then there is only one side of the story put forward.
Wayne Bennett has done a disservice to RL by not being more open. He should have promoted the game more. He's lucky that his results are so good that he has gained respect and credibility.
I'm not sure of what profession you work in but if you want to promote it you need to speak to the media - or spend a great deal on advertising.

I'm pretty sure that's called 'blackmail' any day of the week,Who.

 

[Jatz Crackers]

To The Who:

Please leave your job. Find your way to Eumundi & live there. Become a hippy. Peace bro.

 

[Stevo]

Why does Wayne Bennett owe anything to Rugby League?

He owes everything to it. It's his profession and pays his handsome wage so he should be helping it prosper so that there is an opportunity for 'another' young Bennett to enter the coaching ranks.
Just as if you are, say, a plumber. By putting the profession in the best light you increase its standing in the community, resulting in better standards, higher pay, and more people wanting to become plumbers.

I would hope that you put your profession, and whoever you work for, in the best possible light. By gaining favourable media coverage you are helping to do this.

Ohhh, you're one of those 'he owes everything to rugby league people' are you? I disagree completely. There are alot of people who rugby league has left behind. What Wayne has done, he has done by himself. Without the media and without being one of the NRL's 'darlings' as they are known. Rugby league doesn't pay his wage. St george do. Next year, Newcastle will. Sure if you want everyone to love you be a media tart. I don't think Wayne really gives a ****!

 

[The Who]

To The Who:

Please leave your job. Find your way to Eumundi & live there. Become a hippy. Peace bro.

It pays the bills!

I seem to be the only one defending the media. Like any profession there are good ones and bad ones. I entered it 40 years ago thinking it was a noble profession, and trained to always present both sides and never let your own opinion/bias show. I was never a sports writer, specialising in news and politics. The type of journalism has changed with much of it opinion-based.
I still maintain that it makes sense to have a cordial relationship with the media because good press can boost your career and earnings.
Let's leave it at that.

 

[Masked Eagle]

To The Who:

Please leave your job. Find your way to Eumundi & live there. Become a hippy. Peace bro.

It pays the bills!

I seem to be the only one defending the media. Like any profession there are good ones and bad ones. I entered it 40 years ago thinking it was a noble profession, and trained to always present both sides and never let your own opinion/bias show. I was never a sports writer, specialising in news and politics. The type of journalism has changed with much of it opinion-based.
I still maintain that it makes sense to have a cordial relationship with the media because good press can boost your career and earnings.
Let's leave it at that.

I'm a bit the same. I don't feel the need to defend them as such, just the school of thought that everything they do is bad and that they don't/can't do any good at all. If it wasn't for the relationship the game had with the media rugby league would have been worse than union in the amateur days.