Other Games [Round 22, 2021]

[StuBoot]

The captains challenge rules are on page 70 of link. It seems to me that the rules say that last night all the Roosters could challenge was the referee's call to stop play as the Rooster couldn't play the ball properly.

The captain can only challenge decisions by the Referee which cause play to stop. (i.e. any decision by the referee to ‘play-on’ cannot be challenged)

https://www.nrl.com/siteassets/operations/the-game/nrl-international-laws-of-the-game-2020.pdf

And as there was no penalty they couldn't challenge is the way I read it.
So did he challenge the knock on in the tackle/play the ball or the high tackle is the question?

 

[Chip and Chase]

From memory Tedesco mentioned something about the tackle on Tupouinua when he made the challenge. That's what Klein asked to be specifically reviewed when he sent it to the bunker

 

[ManEagle]

Does anyone else get these adds when talking about the Roosters?

 

[manlywarringah]

So that wasn't a shoulder charge by Cleary ?

Why hasn’t this been made a bigger deal?

I was shocked when I saw Cleary do an obvious shoulder charge and the only one to call him out on it was Tallis during the commentary....Voss and Ennis just changed the conversation and when it was replayed again....there was silence in the commentary team and they went back to talk about Burton again.

I like Cleary but that was the most obvious shoulder charge I’ve seen this year.....it could only be because it’s Cleary that he got away with it. Everyone saw it so how can he NOT be charged?

Gobsmacking

 

[cc eagle]

What's everyone's thoughts of Cleary's should charge on Bird, he turned his shoulder to hit him in the chest, no arms involved, no charge from the MRC apart from when he took out the kicker, which I didn't think was even a penalty, probably get a fine.

 

[rj90]

MRC picked up Cleary’s shoulder charge. Fine only..

 

[cc eagle]

Why hasn’t this been made a bigger deal?

I was shocked when I saw Cleary do an obvious shoulder charge and the only one to call him out on it was Tallis during the commentary....Voss and Ennis just changed the conversation and when it was replayed again....there was silence in the commentary team and they went back to talk about Burton again.

I like Cleary but that was the most obvious shoulder charge I’ve seen this year.....it could only be because it’s Cleary that he got away with it. Everyone saw it so how can he NOT be charged?

Gobsmacking

Fully agree, and nothing from MRC

 

[cc eagle]

MRC picked up Cleary’s shoulder charge. Let’s see what happens now..

Triple M saying no charge to answer from MRC

 

[Shnorky]

The captains challenge rules are on page 70 of link. It seems to me that the rules say that last night all the Roosters could challenge was the referee's call to stop play as the Rooster couldn't play the ball properly.

The captain can only challenge decisions by the Referee which cause play to stop. (i.e. any decision by the referee to ‘play-on’ cannot be challenged)

https://www.nrl.com/siteassets/operations/the-game/nrl-international-laws-of-the-game-2020.pdf

But they have called it the terrific teddy challenge, so that will be covered somewhere in the fine print.

 

[cc eagle]

MRC picked up Cleary’s shoulder charge. Fine only..

Bit of confusion there, triple M saying the fine was for contact with the kicker

 

[Brookie Bob]

The captains challenge rules are on page 70 of link. It seems to me that the rules say that last night all the Roosters could challenge was the referee's call to stop play as the Rooster couldn't play the ball properly.

The captain can only challenge decisions by the Referee which cause play to stop. (i.e. any decision by the referee to ‘play-on’ cannot be challenged)

https://www.nrl.com/siteassets/operations/the-game/nrl-international-laws-of-the-game-2020.pdf

Everything around forward passes in the rules is a bit of a sacred cow, isn't it? Don't question anything, nothing to see here................

 

[HoldenV8]

It looks like Victor Radley is facing 3-4 weeks on the sidelines for his attempted charge down gone wrong.

But golden child Nathan Cleary apparently has no case to answer after what was basically a textbook shoulder charge.

Because ... consistency

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

t looks like Victor Radley is facing 3-4 weeks on the sidelines for his attempted charge down gone wrong.

No problem, Politis will probably get a couple of former High Court judges to turn up pro bono to get him off

 

[The Who]

You know, another rule that irritates me is the 'pinkie on the football is sufficient to award a try' rule. I reckon dozens of "tries" these days are being awarded when they don't deserve to be. A perfect example was the Saab "try" against the Sharks when he threw the ball at the try line. I was shocked (but happy) that this was awarded.
I am old fashioned but whatever happened to having to exert 'downward pressure' on the ball, or better still 'control of the ball'?
These days all a Vidiot has to do is free-frame a screen shot showing a finger on the ball and they rule it a try. Na, too airy-fairy for me. I want to know that a player actually has control of the ball in order to score a try. Surely that has always been the intent of RL, and changing rules is no problem under PV's regime.

 

[cc eagle]

It looks like Victor Radley is facing 3-4 weeks on the sidelines for his attempted charge down gone wrong.

But golden child Nathan Cleary apparently has no case to answer after what was basically a textbook shoulder charge.

Because ... consistency

MG on triple M, protecting Cleary, saying nothing in it, no malice, just bracing himself, rest of the crew disagree

 

[HoldenV8]

No problem, Politis will probably get a couple of former High Court judges to turn up pro bono to get him off

With that one I have no problem either way. He did take out Kelly's legs in an awkward attempt at a charge down. But at the same time hey wasn't trying to injure the guy.

But how Cleary gets off scott free from what was a clear cut shoulder charge is beyond me. If the situation had been reversed and Bird had hit Cleary with a shoulder charge, you'd have had the media and people like Andrew Johns screaming blue murder about protecting the play makers. Just look at the reaction when CHN hit Hughes on Thursday. If that same hit had been on a forward like Asofa-Solomona, no one would have batted an eyelid.

 

[HoldenV8]

MG on triple M, protecting Cleary, saying nothing in it, no malice, just bracing himself, rest of the crew disagree

Shock horror ... one of Penrith's legends defending the only player that can land Penrith a GF win right now.

 

[BOZO]

I think their level of excellence if you like is built around borderline filth in everything they do, the way they play is not in the spirit of the game, they've never cared about the damage they do to opposition players, the Slater feet to the head of scorers, Croker and his putrid 'tackle' on Snake in the 07 decider, the Hughes knees to the head of Garrick and a plethora of unsportsmanlike performances all designed to win games at any cost and the officials take a week of Sundays to counteract the filth invented by Bellamy to gain advantage, they've changed the game and the spirit with which it's always been played and for me they're a blight on the game I've loved

Is anyone else over Anasta and his fkn rooster bias🤬🤬

Perspective time ...

Manly players like Les Boyd and Mal Reilly were two of the biggest thugs and showed no spirit or mercy for the opposition as they inflicted PAIN

Also Bucknell broke Sattlers jaw to three pieces when he king hit him from behind .
What Is my take on that ? He should have decapitated the bastards head off !!!

 

[BOZO]

Pain to the eels Tonight 🙂

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

I am old fashioned but whatever happened to having to exert 'downward pressure' on the ball, or better still 'control of the ball'?

Downward pressure is only needed if the ball is already on the ground. And there's nothing in the rules about control. In fact the notes to the rules state A try should not be disallowed because the player who correctly grounds the ball fails to retain it.

Saab's was a fair try (and a brilliant effort!)