NRL Fox Forward Pack Ranking

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BOZO

Journey Man
Tipping Member
17. DRAGONS

Round 1 predicted starting pack:
8. Zane Musgrove 9. Jacob Liddle 10. Blake Lawrie 11. Jack de Belin 12. Jaydn Su’A 13. Jack Bird

Full pack: Jack Bird, Billy Burns, Jack de Belin, Tyrell Fuimaono, Jaiyden Hunt, Josh Kerr, Blake Lawrie, Andrew McCullough, Francis Molo, Michael Molo, Zane Musgrove, Jaydn Su’A, Aaron Woods, Nick Lui-Toso, Jacob Liddle, Jayden Sullivan
16. DOLPHINS

Round 1 predicted starting pack:
8. Jesse Bromwich 9. Jeremy Marshall-King 10. Mark Nicholls 11. Felise Kaufusi 12. Kenny Bromwich 13. Tom Gilbert

Full pack: Euan Aitken, Jesse Bromwich, Kenny Bromwich, JJ Collins, Herman Ese’ese, Poasa Faamausili, Tom Gilbert, Felise Kaufusi, Connelly Lemuelu, Jeremy Marshall-King, Mark Nicholls, Ray Stone, Jarrod Wallace
15. WARRIORS

Round 1 predicted starting pack:
8. Addin Fonua-Blake 9. Wayde Egan 10. Tohu Harris 11. Marata Niukore 12. Josh Curran 13. Mitch Barnett

Full pack: Bunty Afoa, Tom Ale, Mitchell Barnett, Josh Curran, Wayde Egan, Addin Fonua-Blake, Jackson Ford, Tohu Harris, Otukinekina Kepu, Valingi Kepu, Freddy Lussick, Ben Murdoch-Masila, Marata Niukore, Taniela Otukolo, Bayley Sironen, Brayden Wiliame, Dylan Walker, Jazz Tevaga
14. TITANS

Round 1 predicted starting pack:
8. Moeaki Fotuaika 9. Sam Verrills 10. Tino Fa’asuamaleaui 11. David Fifita 12. Beau Fermor 13. Erin Clark

Full pack: Jacob Alick, Tanah Boyd, Erin Clark, Tino Fa’asuamaleaui, Beau Fermor, David Fifita, Moeaki Fotuaika, Klese Haas, Jaimin Jolliffe, Isaac Liu, Sam McIntyre, Joe Stimson, Sam Verrills, Joseph Vuna
13. TIGERS

Round 1 predicted starting pack:
8. Alex Twal 9. Api Koroisau 10. David Klemmer 11. Isaiah Papali’i 12. Shawn Blore 13. Joe Ofahengaue

Full pack: Shawn Blore, Sione Fainu, Apisai Koroisau, Justin Matamua, Rua Ngatikaura, Joe Ofahengaue, Isaiah Papali’I, Fonua Pole, Alex Seyfarth, Tuki Simpkins, Brandon Tumeth, Alex Twal, Stefano Utoikamanu, Jake Simpkin, David Klemmer
12. KNIGHTS

Round 1 predicted starting pack:
8. Jacob Saifiti, 9. Jayden Brailey 10. Daniel Saifiti 11. Tyson Frizell 12. Jack Hetherington 13. Adam Elliott

Full pack: Jayden Brailey, Mat Croker, Adam Elliott, Lachlan Fitzgibbon, Tyson Frizell, Jack Hetherington, Bailey Hodgson, Brodie Jones, Jack Johns, Kurt Mann, Chris Randall, Daniel Saifiti, Jacob Saifiti, Leo Thompson
11. SEA EAGLES

Round 1 predicted starting pack:
8. Sean Keppie 9. Lachlan Croker 10. Josh Aloiai 11. Haumole Olakau’atu 12. Kelma Tuilagi 13. Jake Trbojevic

Full pack: Josh Aloiai, Ethan Bullemor, Ben Condon, Viliame Fifita, Sean Keppie, Karl Lawton, Lachlan Croker, Haumola Olakau’atu, Taniela Paseka, Josh Schuster, Toafofoa Sipley, Ben Trbojevic, Jake Trbojevic, Kelma Tuilagi, Alec Tu’itavake, Morgan Boyle, Zac Fulton, Nathaniel Roache
10. BULLDOGS

Round 1 predicted starting pack:
8. Max King 9. Reed Mahoney 10. Luke Thompson 11. Viliame Kikau 12. Tevita Pangai-Junior 13. Raymond Faitala-Mariner

Full pack: Andrew Davey, Brandon Clarke, Franklin Pele, Jackson Topine, Jacob Preston, Raymond Faitala-Mariner, Max King, Tevita Pangai Junior, Chris Patolo, Luke Thompson, Corey Waddell, Viliame Kikau, Reed Mahoney, Ryan Sutton
9. SHARKS

Round 1 predicted starting pack:
8. Toby Rudolph 9. Blayke Brailey 10. Royce Hunt 11. Briton Nikora 12. Wade Graham 13. Dale Finucane

Full pack: Blayke Brailey, Jesse Colquhoun, Dale Finucane, Braden Hamlin-Uele, Tom Hazelton, Royce Hunt, Oregon Kaufusi, Cameron McInnes, Briton Nikora, Toby Rudolf, Siosifa Talakai, Jack Williams, Teig Wilton, Jayden Berrell, Wade Graham
8. EELS

Round 1 predicted starting pack:
8. Reagan Campbell-Gillard 9. Josh Hodgson 10. Junior Paulo 11. Shaun Lane 12. Jack Murchie 13. J’maine Hopgood

Full pack: Nathan Brown, Reagan Campbell-Gillard, Bryce Cartwright, Wiremu Greig, Josh Hodgson, J’maine Hopgood, Shaun Lane, Makahesi Makatoa, Ryan Matterson, Jirah Momoisea, Jack Murchie, Ofahiki Ogden, Junior Paulo, Mitch Rein, Ky Rodwell, Matt Doorey
7. STORM

Round 1 predicted starting pack:
8. Nelson Asofa-Solomona 9. Harry Grant 10. Christian Welch 11. Tui Kamikamica 12. Eliesa Katoa 13. Josh King
Full pack: Nelson Asofa-Solomona, Joe Chan, Tom Eisenhuth, Harry Grant, Jordan Grant, Jack Howarth, Tui Kamikamica, Eliesa Katoa, Josh King, Trent Loiero, Alec MacDonald, Tepai Moeroa, Tariq Sims, Aaron Pene, Christian Welch, Tyran Wishart, Jack Howarth
6. PANTHERS

Round 1 predicted starting pack:
8. Moses Leota 9. Mitch Kenny 10. James Fisher-Harris 11. Luke Garner 12. Liam Martin 13. Isaah Yeo

Full pack: Eddie Blacker, James Fisher-Harris, Luke Garner, Zac Hosking, Thomas Jenkins, Mitch Kenny, Spencer Leniu, Moses Leota, Soni Luke, Liam Martin, Tyrone Peachey, Lindsay Smith, Chris Smith, Scott Sorensen, Izack Tago, Isaah Yeo, Matt Eisenhuth

5. BRONCOS
Round 1 predicted starting pack:
8. Thomas Flegler 9. Billy Walters 10. Payne Haas 11. Kurt Capewell 12. Jordan Riki 13. Pat Carrigan
Full pack: Kurt Capewell, Patrick Carrigan, Thomas Flegler, Payne Haas, Kobe Hetherington, Corey Jensen, Cory Paix, Keenan Palasia, Brendan Piakura, Jordan Riki, TC Robati, Billy Walters, Xavier Willison, Blake Mozer, Logan Bayliss
4. RAIDERS

Round 1 predicted starting pack:
8. Josh Papalii 9. Tom Starling 10. Joseph Tapine 11. Hudson Young 12. Elliott Whitehead 13. Corey Harawira-Naera


Full pack: Emre Guler, Corey Harawira-Naera, Peter Hola, Corey Horsburgh, Ata Mariota, Trey Mooney, Josh Papalii, Pasami Saulo, Tom Starling, Joseph Tapine, Adrian Trevilyan, Clay Webb, Elliott Whitehead, Zac Woolford, Hudson Young, Matthew Frawley
3. RABBITOHS

Round 1 predicted starting pack:
8. Tevita Tatola 9. Damien Cook 10. Liam Knight 11. Keaon Koloamatangi 12. Jai Arrow 13. Cameron Murray

Full pack: Jai Arrow, Thomas Burgess, Jed Cartwright, Michael Chee Kam, Damien Cook, Siliva Havili, Jacob Host, Liam Knight, Keaon Koloamatangi, Peter Mamouzelos, Shaquai Mitchell, Davvy Moale, Cameron Murray, Hame Sele, Daniel Suluka-Fifita, Tevita Tatola, Ben Lovett


2. ROOSTERS

Round 1 predicted starting pack:
8. Jared Waerea-Hargreaves 9. Brandon Smith 10. Lindsay Collins 11. Nat Butcher 12. Sitili Tupouniua 13. Victor Radley

Full pack: Renouf Atoni, Fletcher Baker, Egan Butcher, Nat Butcher, Lindsay Collins, Angus Crichton, Terrell May, Victor Radley, Brandon Smith, Sitili Tupouniua, Jake Turpin, Jared Waerea-Hargreaves, Connor Watson, Naufahu Whyte, Drew Hutchison, Joshua Wong, Matt Lodge (train-and-trial)

1. COWBOYS

Round 1 predicted starting pack:
8. Jordan McLean 9. Reece Robson 10. Reuben Cotter 11. Heilum Luki 12. Jeremiah Nanai 13. Jason Taumalolo

Full pack: Reuben Cotter, Mitchell Dunn, Jack Gosiewski, Jake Granville, Coen Hess, Luciano Leilua, Heilum Luki, Jordan McLean, Jeremiah Nanai, Griffin Neame, Reece Robson, James Tamou, Jason Taumalolo, Jamayne Taunoa-Brown, Jake Granville, Mitch Dunn, Riley Price
 

BOZO

Journey Man
Tipping Member
Dominant packs lay the foundation for Big wins

Dominant packs consist of Powerful Pigs , Crafty number 9s and blockbusting back rowers

We have some exciting young players and new signings with potential that could surprise and we could rise above 11th ranking
 

SeaEagleRock8

Sea Eagle Lach
Premium Member
Tipping Member
Assessing a pack without regard to the rest of the side, especially the other spine members, is of limited use. Extreme example is the Eels of the 80s with a workmanlike pack but all-star backs and they won a number of premierships.

I reckon most of our forwards are capable of going to another level. The main one I have doubts about is actually Bullemore, just haven't seen the desire in him so far. He has the physical quality.
 

double hoops

First Grader
Assessing a pack without regard to the rest of the side, especially the other spine members, is of limited use. Extreme example is the Eels of the 80s with a workmanlike pack but all-star backs and they won a number of premierships.

I reckon most of our forwards are capable of going to another level. The main one I have doubts about is actually Bullemore, just haven't seen the desire in him so far. He has the physical quality.
Look at the Panthers Pack. Premiers ranked 6. But It doesn't look much on paper, certainly not when viewed as individual parts.
 

Mark from Brisbane

“ Boomer still Booming”
Premium Member
Tipping Member
We really are short at least one or two top line props, UNLESS some of the ones we have grow a pair and step up.

Paseka , big , strong , plays like a softie
Josh A, can be ok , spends most of the time injured.
Keppie , loads of potential , but rocks and diamonds.
Sipley , goes ok , for periods

Can these 4 intimidate the other teams??

I’d rate them 17th out of the 17 teams.

And a makeshift number 9.

Our whole front row is in no way high quality or intimidating.

It’s our Achilles Heel.
 

BOZO

Journey Man
Tipping Member
Look at the Panthers Pack. Premiers ranked 6. But It doesn't look much on paper, certainly not when viewed as individual parts.
The Premiers Pack lost their Premier Key number nine Api and Premier Monster back rower Kikau
They are two big losses for them
 

maxta

First Grader
Premium Member
Lucky to be ranked that high based on 2022....
Even a BIG late signing and the addition of a bench 9 who can bring thrust and momentum and we are still a 8 - 10 ranking imo...
 

maxta

First Grader
Premium Member
The Premiers Pack lost their Premier Key number nine Api and Premier Monster back rower Kikau
They are two big losses for them
What these ppl ranking don't realise, is Penrith have the best nursery by miles and we will soon have more star forwards tearing opposition apart in the Panthers jersey.....right up there still at least top 4 if not top 2 imo.
Spencer Lenui will become more of a Monster, Soni luke will rise as a gun player and there are several rookies just waiting in the wings to bash up opposition packs, as this side has demonstrated the past 2-3 years.
 

BOZO

Journey Man
Tipping Member
Assessing a pack without regard to the rest of the side, especially the other spine members, is of limited use. Extreme example is the Eels of the 80s with a workmanlike pack but all-star backs and they won a number of premierships.

I reckon most of our forwards are capable of going to another level. The main one I have doubts about is actually Bullemore, just haven't seen the desire in him so far. He has the physical quality.
You are right assessing the pack is limited without the other back spine members but this article is
assessing the sole input of the packs and their ability to lay their own foundation for the rest of the team
And you are right again when you say the pack has to step up to another level if they are to compete with the top 8 packs . Time will tell if all those players are capable
 

BOZO

Journey Man
Tipping Member
What these ppl ranking don't realise, is Penrith have the best nursery by miles and we will soon have more star forwards tearing opposition apart in the Panthers jersey.....right up there still at least top 4 if not top 2 imo.
They have the nursery but they do not have an Api and a Kikau ready to take over next year
 

maxta

First Grader
Premium Member
They have the nursery but they do not have an Api and a Kikau ready to take over this year
I reckon Soni Luke will play a very similar role to Api and by seasons end be at a Top level.
Kikau on that edge is simply irreplacable though I feel Garner will look loads better at Penrith than we seen at Tigers, there's also young Lindsay Smith who is a gun and only unseen as had injuries, but fit and ready, Spencer Leniu at only 22 is quickly becoming a dominant player and will go up 2 pegs in 2023....so I see a Powerful pack still.
 

BOZO

Journey Man
Tipping Member
I reckon Soni Luke will play a very similar role to Api and by seasons end be at a Top level.
Kikau on that edge is simply irreplacable though I feel Garner will look loads better at Penrith than we seen at Tigers, there's also young Lindsay Smith who is a gun and only unseen as had injuries, but fit and ready, Spencer Leniu at only 22 is quickly becoming a dominant player and will go up 2 pegs in 2023....so I see a Powerful pack still.
Similar is not like Superstar quality like Premiership proven winning Api and Kikau
There is a difference feathered friend and we will agree to disagree
 

maxta

First Grader
Premium Member
Similar is not like Superstar quality like Premiership proven winning Api and Kikau
There is a difference feathered friend and we will agree to disagree
That we will, but just remember - half the pack of the Number 1 rated forwards at North Qld were unknown before 2022.....so never dismiss hungry talent coming through and making immediate impact....this is exactly what I want from Manly in 2023 ...... 2 - 3 players not thought of in 2022 to make THAT impact.
 

BOZO

Journey Man
Tipping Member
That we will, but just remember - half the pack of the Number 1 rated forwards at North Qld were unknown before 2022.....so never dismiss hungry talent coming through and making immediate impact....this is exactly what I want from Manly in 2023 ...... 2 - 3 players not thought of in 2022 to make THAT impact.
The Cowboys young boys were unknown but the proven premiership winning Api and Kakua were very well known and will be missed
 

BOZO

Journey Man
Tipping Member
Look int the eyes of our premiership winning enforcer Spub Carrol

THis is what the dominated opposition faced on the field and psychologically succumb to

Now look in to the eyes of our forwards and we see a big difference

Which forward has the tenacity to step up in 2023 ?
See the source image
 
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BOZO

Journey Man
Tipping Member
Games are won on both a physical and a Phycological level
We need to start dominating both
 
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