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News: Tandy arrested (and so it begins)

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Matabele, Feb 2, 2011.

  1. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

    +516 /14
    <p>Bulldogs front-rower Ryan Tandy has been arrested for allegedy providing false evidence.</p>
    <p>Detectives from the State Crime Command's Racing and Casino Investigation Unit are finalising their investigation into suspicious betting activity on Canterbury's round-24 NRL match against North Queensland last year, an inquiry that has this month used the powers of the NSW Crime Commission.</p>
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    <a href="http://silvertails.net/news/5342-tandy-arrested-and-so-it-begins.html">Read the full article</a>
  2. WAMF

    WAMF Well-Known Member

    +408 /0
    Did anyone catch the story on ACA? lol
  3. Seaweed

    Seaweed New Member

    +0 /0
    Hang on...wait...he may be "not guilty",just like Hoppa.

    Upon reflection,highly unlikely.FAIL.

    Throw the book at the lying ****er.

    The silence is "deafening " now plebs.
  4. ads

    ads Well-Known Member

    +29 /1
    He should be presumed innocent though until proven guilty.

    There is a case here however to argue that he should be stood down from all competitive sport until this is all complete as this incident relates to his performance on th football field and the integrity of the game.
  5. Rusty

    Rusty Well-Known Member

    +45 /0
    They should treat him like we would have liked Brett treated. And then if he is found guilty they can jail him, ban him or whatever. Until then the club and the NRL should support him.
  6. DSM5

    DSM5 Well-Known Member

    +516 /0
    Seaweed, I'm glad you weren't on the jury in the Stewart case.  There is the 'presumption of innocence' in there somewhere.  And mate, one thing I learnt in the Manly case is, never believe what you read in the DT.  They all may well be as guilty as you infer, but you really need to take a deep breath and check out what comes out at the trial, if there is one before you rush to judgment. 
  7. ayjay007

    ayjay007 Well-Known Member

    +83 /0
    He has to get 4 weeks though.Isn't that the standard for bringing the game into disrepute (or whatever drivel that sh*t for brains gallop came out with for Brett's 4 weeks).Of course he's innocent until proven guilty,just like Brett was (?).
  8. tookey

    tookey Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +5,790 /186
    Nothing game turned out as controversial as the election February 3, 2011
    Ryan Tandy in betting scandal
    Bulldogs front-rower Ryan Tandy has been arrested for allegedly providing false evidence.

    A shrewd bookmaker blew the whistle on a bizarre betting plunge, writes Chris Barrett.

    The attention of the nation was anywhere but on Dairy Farmers Stadium on the night of Saturday, August 21 last year, and the hours leading up to it. It was on the federal election - coincidentally (or not, perhaps, in retrospect) held on the same day - and a thoroughly more vital contest than that between two of the season's NRL also-rans, North Queensland and Canterbury.

    Yet while just about all eyes focused squarely on Julia Gillard, Tony Abbott and the extra-time tallying that would eventually confirm the former as Prime Minister, something was brewing that would make the day a notorious one for rugby league, too.

    The first signs came on the day before, the Friday morning, and as one would expect the first to twig that all was not as it should be were the betting agencies. Cash was beginning to be lodged for the Cowboys - the outsiders and by some margin the worst team in the NRL last year - but not simply to win. Instead, the wagers were on the hosts - like the Bulldogs, no chance of making the semi-finals - to score first with a penalty goal.

    Advertisement: Story continues below ''On the Friday morning, a guy who worked for another bookie had a bet on it with us,'' says Gerard Daffy, the experienced bookmaker who now runs sportsalive.com. ''I think he had $100 or $150 on at double-figure odds so I made it shorter. I thought, 'We'll keep out of this.'''

    By the following morning, the day of the game, he was surprised to see the drop in odds had not exactly proved prohibitive. And on the most wildly unusual of betting categories.

    ''We then had it at $6 and, lo and behold, a new account in a female's name submitted a $1000 bet at $6,'' Daffy says. ''The gambler in me says you should be taking something like that because it's grossly under the odds but I'm always wary of things like that. In gambling if something doesn't look right, it normally isn't.''

    Daffy, perplexed by the unusual direction of the punting, resolved to check it out. He had used the firm's interceptor software, which agencies use to examine any bet of their choosing before accepting it, and decided to contact other bookmakers to see if there had been a similar trend.

    What he found, of course, confirmed his suspicions. Most of his opponents had closed that specific market after witnessing similar activity. Daffy quickly did the same, allowing that new punter a $100 wager, rather than $1000. In the hours later the league cognoscenti, not unaccustomed to a rumour or two, would be rife with text-message talk that ''the fix was in''.

    Five hours before kick-off, Scott Woodward, a league analyst who had been keeping a close watch on NRL prices, caught on. He sent a text to the former NSW prop Peter Tunks, who was on air at the radio station 2SM. Woodward's message said: ''This looks a hot game.''

    Others were of the same opinion. ''For a game like that it was more than unusual,'' says Glenn Munsie of TAB Sportsbet. ''[The Cowboys] were the outsider in the game … they'd kicked a penalty goal once all year as a first scoring play.''

    Over at Centrebet, analysts first spied that something was up on the Friday night. It was then that the first of moves by three Sydney punters, as well as other minor ones, would begin with them.

    ''The initial bet, which raised a bit of an eyebrow, was $1000 at $9. That was made at around at 5.30 on Friday night, the day before the game,'' says Centrebet's Neil Evans.

    ''I could tell from the way the book was treated from there that it was a twig … It was a 'bet of interest'.''

    Centrebet, unlike Daffy and some the others, did not immediately turn the market off. But the realisation that a plunge was on was made very apparent to them as the 7.30pm kick-off in Townsville approached.

    ''Another Sydney-based punter had $1000 on at $7.50. This bet was placed exactly 24 hours later, two hours from the kick-off of the match. At this stage there had been other bets made - $200, $300, $500 as well. Then there was a third-Sydney based punter who got involved.

    ''He had several bets up to $500 from $7.50 down to $5. That came at around the same time on Saturday afternoon - right in the middle of the federal election. By this stage you're thinking, 'Something is doing here.'''

    In that 24-hour period, the Cowboys first scorer with a penalty goal option fluctuated from $11 to $3 with Centrebet. The agency would have stood to lose about $20,000 had the Cowboys not, of course, declined an early shot at a two-pointer and instead scored a try in the left corner. Overall, across the agencies, punters stood to win almost $250,000 if the play eventuated.

    ''Ninety-five per cent of the money for the first scoring play was on a Cowboys penalty goal,'' Evans said. ''The Bulldogs were $1.59 favourites [to win the game] yet you barely had $100 from the betting community on a Bulldogs first try.''

    At some point on that Saturday afternoon, the NRL was notified of the betting trends and the subsequently closed markets. Those privy to that information at the time ignored the election coverage and sat glued to their televisions, despite the match being a meaningless one in terms of the coming NRL play-offs.

    ''We got advised that the market had been closed on the weekend … clearly [we] watched the match with interest,'' NRL official John Brady said. ''While the result didn't suggest anything, we certainly kept an eye on it and had some discussions with betting operators about it on the Monday morning.

    ''Off the back of those discussions, we've got integrity agreements that allow us to look into betting detail. By Tuesday we'd decided to bring [Racing NSW chief steward] Ray Murrihy in to have a more forensic look for us.''

    A resolution to the federal election would not be reached for 17 days until two independent kingmakers would hand Gillard the reins to the country. The fallout from the NRL betting scandal is, five months later, only just beginning.
  9. Berkeley_Eagle

    Berkeley_Eagle Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan

    +2,125 /14
    If True.
    Ryan Tandy & all of the others involved put a new meaning to dumb,  the TAB have people to watch for unusual  trends
  10. Dan

    Dan Kim Jong Dan Staff Member Administrator 2016 Tipping Competitor 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +7,733 /120
    Fair dinkum,

    I can't believe how short some of your memories are.

    Clean it up guys, there is a presumption of innocence
  11. swoop

    swoop Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +1,543 /26
    Another great start to the NRL season, not. The other codes must be laughing their heads off.
  12. willstyles

    willstyles Active Member

    +4 /0
    Presumption of innocence, presumption of innocence, presumption of innocence..... I know, I know, I know. I should cut him more slack, especially since we saw how horribly the Stewart saga was handled, but the evidence built up against him is so overwhelming it's really hard to ignore. There's....just so much stacking up against him.
  13. Stevo

    Stevo Well-Known Member

    +1,401 /56
    Yeah mate because the AFL are complete cleanskins at the moment. Fevola or St Kilda ring any bells? Soccer and Rugby don't count. A rugby league player could murder a nun and we'd still be more popular than both of these codes put together!
  14. Mark from Brisbane

    Mark from Brisbane Living the dream Premium Member

    +19,621 /383
    I would agree with DSM....don't believe everything you read in the papers.

    They can use the word 'alledged' with relative impunity, and that really angers me...there's no word I hate more in the written press than "alledged".

    Guilty or not it's yet to be proven and the guys deserves the presumption of innocence until a court finds him guilty...then say whatever you want.
  15. Copa Eagle

    Copa Eagle Member

    +16 /0
    inncoent until proven guilty, yet i do think he should be serving a 4 match suspension for bringing the game into disrepute, if he doesnt get a suspension then ill be amgry
  16. eggson

    eggson Well-Known Member

    +305 /2
    Just remember how much evidence was collected in the media against Brett, and how much was presented during the trial...

    Mind you the only 'evidence' i've seen so far is the actual flop/penalty during the game.  If the cops have proof of him lying and present that during trial then sure i'll have a stronger opinion. 

    I'd say the NRL may have learnt a lesson in not suspending a player until more is known.  Pity it took Brett's situation to make them realise that labelling someone Mr Double Demerit etc before things are sorted out aren't really a good thing.  Then again, the NRL probably haven't learnt a thing...
  17. Ralphie

    Ralphie Well-Known Member Premium Member

    +2,943 /287
    I presume he is innocent. He has no history of cheating.......oh wait a minute except for being a part of the purple filth cheating.

    Innocent until proven guilty.
  18. DSM5

    DSM5 Well-Known Member

    +516 /0
    The 'flop' doesn't seem to be in play at the moment.  It seems to me that the charge relates to 'providing false evidence to the NSW Crime Commission'.  That probably would relate to whether he had a bet or not, and his answer to that.  Purely speculation of course.  Time will tell.  The presumptions there, so it will be interesting to pop into the court and see what it's all about.    
  19. Dan

    Dan Kim Jong Dan Staff Member Administrator 2016 Tipping Competitor 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +7,733 /120
    DSM5 if it goes to court, are you at all planning on attending and covering?

  20. WAMF

    WAMF Well-Known Member

    +408 /0
    You really want to give that hosting server a good work out :)

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