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May as well talk about dementia experiences in a thread called 'More news coming', because for some of you who've not experienced it ... you will!
My mum went through different stages, some of them weird - like deciding to look after a dead possum she'd found in the park 'just as an experiment' - to sad, which is when her confusion left her so paranoid that she didn't trust anyone, even family who were trying to look after her.
@niccipops thankfully toward the end she was a bit like your Granny, quite calm and content it seemed.
The loss of contact with reality and emotional regulation is why setting up Enduring Guardian and Power of Attorney documents early on, while they are still lucid, is so helpful.
 
Spot on Nicci

A couple of months ago my 90 year old FIL talked in detail about his injuries (sustained from being pushed over by another dementia resident) and how he got them that week training with the Olympic athletes. And his outrage at needing to fill in on their soccer team because rugby's his game. (He's never played rugby because he got osteomyelitis at a young age and could only play non contact sports).

He became obsessed with escape (as is normal for wanderers) and planned escape by getting his son to drive his caravan (he doesn't have one) up to the first floor balcony so he could secretly jump on its roof and be taken away. He told me later he had his car (he no longer has a car) secretly parked "next door" and that because the window is a double window, we can drive his car through the door of his bedroom and out the double window.

He is never short of a story or a wonderful explanation for any questions I have. I just love hearing his stories and wonder what the next ones will be. And as interesting as the stories are, the real action is just being with him, connecting with him.
This guy sounds like a right character.
I love the caravan escape plan.
 
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This guy sounds like a right character.
I love the caravan escape plan.
And he's so certain of his versions of reality and I've begun preferring his to mine. He's in a really happy stage of dementia now. He's accepted the confusion and it no longer worries him. The final stage seems to be approaching fast as he sleeps more and more of the day.

But when he's alert his guard is down and he's more loving and appreciative than he's ever been prepared to show before. And he's just told my wife (his daughter) he's going to marry his best friend, and asked with a smile if he had her permission to ask her. He no longer understands he has dementia and will dispute any suggestion he has it.
 
And he's so certain of his versions of reality and I've begun preferring his to mine. He's in a really happy stage of dementia now. He's accepted the confusion and it no longer worries him. The final stage seems to be approaching fast as he sleeps more and more of the day.

But when he's alert his guard is down and he's more loving and appreciative than he's ever been prepared to show before. And he's just told my wife (his daughter) he's going to marry his best friend, and asked with a smile if he had her permission to ask her. He no longer understands he has dementia and will dispute any suggestion he has it.

Mate, sounds like a tough go, but sounds like you have handled it beautifully, as I would expect from you to be honest.
 
And he's so certain of his versions of reality and I've begun preferring his to mine. He's in a really happy stage of dementia now. He's accepted the confusion and it no longer worries him. The final stage seems to be approaching fast as he sleeps more and more of the day.

But when he's alert his guard is down and he's more loving and appreciative than he's ever been prepared to show before. And he's just told my wife (his daughter) he's going to marry his best friend, and asked with a smile if he had her permission to ask her. He no longer understands he has dementia and will dispute any suggestion he has it.

I was given a book to read when my mother was diagnosed, I think it was called the 36 hour day.

Not for all but for most there's 7 stages, I can't exactly remember them all but there's forgetfulness, not being able to manage taking care of yourself , confusion, off with the pixies, anger, fading away and then they are gone ( but not yet gone).

I watched my Mum lay on a bed staring at the ceiling for 18 months , the end part of what went for 7 years.

Life can be bloody cruel!!
 
Mate, sounds like a tough go, but sounds like you have handled it beautifully, as I would expect from you to be honest.
Thanks mate, but my wife's the master and I'm the mere pupil following her lead. The grieving's largely been done as bits of him, in terms of memories and abilities, have progressively slipped away, big chunks at a time. We've surrendered to what is uncontrollable and inevitable, but he's not gone yet as the light's clearly still on behind those eyes. MFBs situation is far more challenging than ours has been.
 
I was given a book to read when my mother was diagnosed, I think it was called the 36 hour day.

Not for all but for most there's 7 stages, I can't exactly remember them all but there's forgetfulness, not being able to manage taking care of yourself , confusion, off with the pixies, anger, fading away and then they are gone ( but not yet gone).

I watched my Mum lay on a bed staring at the ceiling for 18 months , the end part of what went for 7 years.

Life can be bloody cruel!!

I have heard of the 7 as well

there is forgetfulness

ummm

forgot the rest
 
I was given a book to read when my mother was diagnosed, I think it was called the 36 hour day.

Not for all but for most there's 7 stages, I can't exactly remember them all but there's forgetfulness, not being able to manage taking care of yourself , confusion, off with the pixies, anger, fading away and then they are gone ( but not yet gone).

I watched my Mum lay on a bed staring at the ceiling for 18 months , the end part of what went for 7 years.

Life can be bloody cruel!!
Hey mate. I'm not you, so I don't know whether what I'm going to say has any meaning for you. But I'll try saying it anyway.

Perhaps the most difficult part in all this is the meanings we take out of what is happening. We see our loved one staring at the ceiling and maybe imagine suffering. But do we know whether there is suffering? or the extent of any suffering? and for certain?

Our own suffering seems to be the difference between how things are, and how we imagine things should be. As long as we have any image different from how things are, we are pretty much guaranteed to suffer. That's what I see anyway. Acceptance is the letting go of our images and facing life as it is, warts and all, and not demanding it be any different than it is. Acceptance is the kindest, most stress free place I've ever visited. That stance of surrender to what is has helped me through this, and the death of my parents. I wish the same place of peace for you, however you get there.
 
Hey mate. I'm not you, so I don't know whether what I'm going to say has any meaning for you. But I'll try saying it anyway.

Perhaps the most difficult part in all this is the meanings we take out of what is happening. We see our loved one staring at the ceiling and maybe imagine suffering. But do we know whether there is suffering? or the extent of any suffering? and for certain?

Our own suffering seems to be the difference between how things are, and how we imagine things should be. As long as we have any image different from how things are, we are pretty much guaranteed to suffer. That's what I see anyway. Acceptance is the letting go of our images and facing life as it is, warts and all, and not demanding it be any different than it is. Acceptance is the kindest, most stress free place I've ever visited. That stance of surrender to what is has helped me through this, and the death of my parents. I wish the same place of peace for you, however you get there.

Dont worry mate whilst I hated it I also knew my mother wasn't in any pain, nor any comprehension of what was happening.

I'm good now, she passed away in 2004 so it's been 12 years, and time heals.
 
Little item out of one of the recent Alzheimer's research material from Cornell Uni that may be interesting

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Alzheimer's disease is a neurodegenerative disorder for which, despite years of research, there are no effective treatments or cures.

However, recent breakthroughs in molecular genetics have shown that the disease may spread, like an infection, across closely connected areas of the brain. These findings underscore the need for research aimed at tracking its spread to the earliest points of origin in the brain, so therapies that target those areas can be developed.

An international collaboration between Nathan Spreng, Cornell assistant professor of human development and the Rebecca Q. and James C. Morgan Sesquicentennial Faculty Fellow in the College of Human Ecology, and Taylor Schmitz of the University of Cambridge's Cognitive Brain Sciences Unit, sheds light on the basal forebrain region, where the degeneration of neural tissue caused by Alzheimer's disease appears even before cognitive and behavioral symptoms of the disease emerge.

Their paper, "Basal forebrain degeneration precedes and predicts the cortical spread of Alzheimer's pathology," is published Nov. 4 in Nature Communications. Data used for their work were obtained from the Alzheimer's Disease Neuroimaging Initiative database.

The basal forebrain contains very large and densely connected neurons that are particularly vulnerable to the disease. Schmitz and Spreng show that, as Alzheimer's progresses, degeneration of the basal forebrain predicts subsequent degeneration in temporal lobe areas of the brain involved in memory. This pattern is consistent with other research showing that Alzheimer's indeed spreads across brain regions over time, but the study challenges a widely held belief that the disease originates in the temporal lobe.

"We're hoping that this work pushes a bit of a reorganization of the field itself, to reappraise where the disease originates," Spreng said. "That could open up new avenues for intervention; certainly it would for detection."

Their report is the product of a two-year study of a large sample of age-matched older adults. Within this sample, one group was cognitively normal, according to standard tests, while others were characterized by different levels of cognitive impairment:

  • Individuals with mild cognitive impairment (MCI) who did not progress to Alzheimer's disease;
  • MCI individuals who progressed to Alzheimer's after one year; and
  • Individuals classified as having Alzheimer's throughout the duration of the study.
Through analysis of high-resolution anatomical magnetic resonance imaging of brain volumes, taken three times over the two-year study period, the researchers were able to determine that individuals with MCI or Alzheimer's showed greater losses in gray matter volume in both the basal forebrain and temporal lobe, compared with cognitively normal controls. Intriguingly, they showed that over the two-year period, degeneration of neural tissue in the basal forebrain predicted subsequent tissue degeneration in the temporal lobe, but not the other way around.

A sampling of spinal fluid from healthy adults can detect an abnormal level of beta amyloid, indicative of Alzheimer's, Spreng said. Test results showed that temporal lobes looked the same regardless of amyloid level, but the basal forebrain showed notable degeneration among those seemingly healthy adults with abnormal amyloid levels.

Spreng admits that being able to predict who will get the disease doesn't mean a lot without a protocol to treat and, ultimately, cure the disease. "And it might induce more anxiety," he said. But the more knowledge that can be gained now, he said, the better.

"Future molecular genetics work holds strong promise for developing therapeutic strategies to prevent the spread of pathology at stages of Alzheimer's preceding cognitive decline," Schmitz said. "Our clarification of an earlier point of Alzheimer's propagation is therefore of utmost importance for guiding endeavors to combat this devastating disease."

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Materials provided by Cornell University. Original written by Tom Fleischman. Note: Content may be edited for style and length.
 
One of my relatives has dementia and essentially has regressed to when she was a little girl. Lots of fear and clings to her daughter like her daughter is her mum and even calls her daughter mummy. We loved her and spending time with her, we found it pretty fun and could forgive the outbursts the "Who the F is that" was particularly funny.

It must be awfully confusing, but I think its one of those things that is so much harder on those around the person with dementia than it is on the person.

One of the more shocking documentaries on this is Terry Pratchetts. It wasnt his "living with Alzheimers" one but the "Choosing to Die". He felt that there would likely be a point in his life that he would have to face the choice to die than carry on given his diagnosis. He didnt get to that point and wrote almost until the end, but the documentary was particularly confronting. A brilliant mind lost to a disease that attacks that mind.
 
One of my relatives has dementia and essentially has regressed to when she was a little girl. Lots of fear and clings to her daughter like her daughter is her mum and even calls her daughter mummy. We loved her and spending time with her, we found it pretty fun and could forgive the outbursts the "Who the F is that" was particularly funny.

It must be awfully confusing, but I think its one of those things that is so much harder on those around the person with dementia than it is on the person.

One of the more shocking documentaries on this is Terry Pratchetts. It wasnt his "living with Alzheimers" one but the "Choosing to Die". He felt that there would likely be a point in his life that he would have to face the choice to die than carry on given his diagnosis. He didnt get to that point and wrote almost until the end, but the documentary was particularly confronting. A brilliant mind lost to a disease that attacks that mind.

Not exactly a football forum topic but one everyone should read as it's highly likely in your life you will go through it ( as a watcher) at least once and possibly more.
 

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