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In truth, no, I don’t have an issue with big pharma so it doesn’t interest me.
Your big pharma spamming isn’t why I’m in the Covid thread.

Like any business/industry there will be examples of self interest.
There will also be many more examples of good things those companies have done, although you’re not focusing on those. Only the bad, as it suits your argument.
So by your own logic. I don't have an issue with Catholics - therefore systemic child abuse by priests doesn't occur.
 
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Flu-zero: More than a year since Australia’s last flu death​

The absence of influenza in the community has been described as ‘amazing’, but it is also making planning for next year difficult.
A graph of annual influenza deaths in Australia.
Laboratory-confirmed influenza deaths recorded by the National Notifiable Disease Surveillance System over the past five years.

Influenza experts never thought they would see the scenario currently unfolding in Australia.

In a month when flu cases are normally rising to a peak, no deaths have been reported anywhere in the country for the year to date. And according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics, the last Australian death officially attributed to influenza was recorded in July 2020.

Professor Ian Barr is the Deputy Director of the World Health Organisation Collaborating Centre for Reference and Research on Influenza at the Doherty Institute. He is frank when asked if he ever imagined the current situation; just 435 cases notified to the Australian Influenza Surveillance Report so far this year and no hospital admissions.

‘No. It’s amazing. Never,’ he told newsGP.
 
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I have it on good authority that both Thylacine and Kyle Sandilands are immune to Covid 19, but Yowie's are possibly super spreaders.
 
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Flu-zero: More than a year since Australia’s last flu death​

The absence of influenza in the community has been described as ‘amazing’, but it is also making planning for next year difficult.
A graph of annual influenza deaths in Australia.
Laboratory-confirmed influenza deaths recorded by the National Notifiable Disease Surveillance System over the past five years.

Influenza experts never thought they would see the scenario currently unfolding in Australia.

In a month when flu cases are normally rising to a peak, no deaths have been reported anywhere in the country for the year to date. And according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics, the last Australian death officially attributed to influenza was recorded in July 2020.

Professor Ian Barr is the Deputy Director of the World Health Organisation Collaborating Centre for Reference and Research on Influenza at the Doherty Institute. He is frank when asked if he ever imagined the current situation; just 435 cases notified to the Australian Influenza Surveillance Report so far this year and no hospital admissions.

‘No. It’s amazing. Never,’ he told newsGP.
Not sure what your point is but glad you highlighted it.
The flu is down because of mask wearing and social distancing,if Covid is still spreading and putting people in ICU and dying it suggests that it is a lot more contagious and deadly than the "common" flu?
 
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Not sure what your point is but glad you highlighted it.
The flu is down because of mask wearing and social distancing,if Covid is still spreading and putting people in ICU and dying it suggests that it is a lot more contagious and deadly than the "common" flu?
Not just down my friend - non existent. Really? Come on. What about all the rule breakers, protests etc... Down I could get my head around. But not one single death from (or is it with?) Influenza. Please.
 
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Not just down my friend - non existent. Really? Come on. What about all the rule breakers, protests etc... Down I could get my head around. But not one single death from (or is it with?) Influenza. Please.
Are you suggestion they are covering flu deaths up ? If so why
 
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Not just down my friend - non existent. Really? Come on. What about all the rule breakers, protests etc... Down I could get my head around. But not one single death from (or is it with?) Influenza. Please.
The deaths were down well before the recent outbreaks when borders were opened up,they were down when the lockdowns were put into place long ago.So yeah,unless you are suggesting they were lying about no one dying before Covid even took hold?
Most of the protesters were young people,did not see too many senior citizens in the protests(the most vulnerable) and lockdowns meant they were not visiting the most vulnerable,so yeah don't think the protests had much to do with the flu being down.
The flu numbers being down is seriously old news....
 
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Not just down my friend - non existent. Really? Come on. What about all the rule breakers, protests etc... Down I could get my head around. But not one single death from (or is it with?) Influenza. Please.
Never had you pegged as a conspiracy theorist Kev.

Good luck with finding the real truth mate.

Go Manly.
 
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@Kevinward777 could I ask for a bit of a summary/overview of your argument because I'm finding it a little hard to exactly see what you are saying.

Big pharma being shady, sure, absolutely and I agree.

Big Pharma putting profits first, sure, absolutely and I agree.

But are you implying pharmaceutical companies are somehow behind covid and they have gotten every government, doctor and scientists in the world on board?

Or that their vaccines are useless but they have somehow got every countries health regulators who test and approve them to lie and claim they are effective?.....and then get all hospital and health networks to lie when reporting the breakdown in % of vaxxed/unvaxxed in hospitals.

Genuinely looking to understand your viewpoint
 
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@Kevinward777 could I ask for a bit of a summary/overview of your argument because I'm finding it a little hard to exactly see what you are saying.

Big pharma being shady, sure, absolutely and I agree.

Big Pharma putting profits first, sure, absolutely and I agree.

But are you implying pharmaceutical companies are somehow behind covid and they have gotten every government, doctor and scientists in the world on board?

Or that their vaccines are useless but they have somehow got every countries health regulators who test and approve them to lie and claim they are effective?.....and then get all hospital and health networks to lie when reporting the breakdown in % of vaxxed/unvaxxed in hospitals.

Genuinely looking to understand your viewpoint
Hey mate, it is the off season, and I enjoy being contentious. But in answer to your question.
  • I am not anti vax.
  • I don't believe the vaccine contains a tracking device. (The QR codes do that.)
  • I am double vaccinated.
  • I don't believe all medicine is bad.
  • I believe millions of people are on psychiatric drugs that are slowly harming them.
  • I don't trust big pharma.
  • The articles I have posted should CLEARLY illustrate why.
  • I believe those who have died from Covid are much less than those with Covid.
  • I believe certain important aspects about the vaccine are very shady.
  • I think there might be more going on than any of us know.
  • I think big pharma are making way more $$$ than ever before.
  • I don't think big pharma give a #$&@ about you or me.
 
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Genuinely looking to understand your viewpoint
This is what I got from Google translate, may not be entirely accurate

I believe those who have died from Covid are much less than those with Covid.
Translation> We have been tricked into thinking Covid is worse than it really is

I believe certain important aspects about the vaccine are very shady.
Translation> We have been tricked into getting vaccinations, and we shouldn't get any more

I think there might be more going on than any of us know.
Translation> I don't know what is going on. But it's something to do with Big Pharma. Help!
 
First Grader
This is what I got from Google translate, may not be entirely accurate

I believe those who have died from Covid are much less than those with Covid.
Translation> We have been tricked into thinking Covid is worse than it really is

I believe certain important aspects about the vaccine are very shady.
Translation> We have been tricked into getting vaccinations, and we shouldn't get any more

I think there might be more going on than any of us know.
Translation> I don't know what is going on. But it's something to do with Big Pharma. Help!
Great translation SER8 - you're a very clever guy. Have you heard about Kyle Sandilands? He recently got engaged.
 
Sea Eagle Lach
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No I can't stand Kyle.
And not personal, like you I just like being contentious :)
I agree with you about Big Pharma by the way. I just don't see anything much different to other industries.
Which industry could you say has a glowing record of ethical behaviour? Mining? lol
Oil and gas exploration? Banks and the finance industry. Tobacco, lol. Alcohol, lol lol. Casinos and gambling. Big Tech. Car manufacturing. Arms industry.

All above board, all their billionaires are fine and proper and totally legitimate? (And of course everywhere you see a scandal a politician or two are sure to be found nearby).
 
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