Pre-Game Manly V Sharks [Round 10, 2025]

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11 May 2025 04:05 PM


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Wish I was as confident as some of you blokes. The sharks looked pretty good to me last outing. At our best we can probably win, but I don’t see us winning easily.
I kind of agree, the sharks looked a lot better last week, might of only been Parra, but they have been better over the last couple of weeks, with Moses back.

Strange enough I think young Iro brings something to their side, his high energy and hugely competitive, he just brings that something that the group feeds off, side looked way better with him in it.

I think a lot will depend on our team list, we’re fresh, back at home after 2 losses at Brookie and dropping a game to them at home last year, should have us primed to turn up, it’s a game we need to win, we need to string a few together, no good winning one, losing one. They certainly won’t let us win that’s for sure.
 
We are fresh from a week off
We have the home ground advantage
We may have lost to them the last few times but that should be our learning lessons on how we can beat them this time
If we are expected to improve from last year and become a top 4 contender
We are expected to win this game
 
Personally that Perth game i thought Manly made them look alot better than they actually are, I think Eagle should get the win, but if there Sharks decide turn up it could be close
 
The team selections and win against Penrith last week should have been a light bulb 💡 moment for the coach. It highlighted the importance of a mobile pack.
Will be an interesting insight into Seibold's thinking. Most people would not dare change that team that was so successful against the 4 times premiers last time we played. Especially when you consider we got some seriously bad calls in that 2nd half but still managed to hold them out AND run over the top of them later in the game. However I suspect that Aloiai would replace Bully who would go back to bench. Jake would replace Jazz who would go back to Hooker and Simkin would go back to the bench. Saab replaces TT2. That would be a major team overhaul after a great turnaround win. Seriously would you do that?
 
I know there was recently some discussion about the role of lock in current NRL, compared with the past, but I remain unsure in the current day about the difference between prop and lock. Do players such as Tino and Carrigan, and at times in the past Aloia, play any differently in those positions? I'm guessing the differences are not so great.
Prop would take 1st hit up from a kickoff. Lock may be expected to be able to pass the ball... is that it?
Jazz played effectively for 70 minutes v Penrith, and Manly needs to make use of that ability to play decent minutes as a smaller energetic middle.
Simpkin's form in that game merits another go as starting dummy half. Pity he can't play 80m (could mean Gordie gets another run as backup).
 
Good point, SeaEagleRock 8. For me one thing I'd expect from lock is to be a ball player, basically another 5/8. Glen Stewart* comes to mind as a great example. Now my memory isn't what it used to be (but hey, it's been fun losing a few brain cells!) but I recall JakeT being much in that mould early in his career. He still does a few run and passes but they seem so telegraphed and obvious; easy pickings for the defence. Is this just father time or also in part the coach's call on how he plays? Either way, we need better ball skills from whoever plays lock with more variation in plays.

I agree re Simpkin starting at 9 and Tevaga at least on bench.

* - such a classic, that kick through in his own half from Glen during the 2011 grandfinal. Quick thinking as well as quick feet needed. Jake may be nearing the slower years but we've been so blessed with first the Stewarts and now the Trbojevics.
 
Good point, SeaEagleRock 8. For me one thing I'd expect from lock is to be a ball player, basically another 5/8. Glen Stewart* comes to mind as a great example. Now my memory isn't what it used to be (but hey, it's been fun losing a few brain cells!) but I recall JakeT being much in that mould early in his career. He still does a few run and passes but they seem so telegraphed and obvious; easy pickings for the defence. Is this just father time or also in part the coach's call on how he plays? Either way, we need better ball skills from whoever plays lock with more variation in plays.

I agree re Simpkin starting at 9 and Tevaga at least on bench.

* - such a classic, that kick through in his own half from Glen during the 2011 grandfinal. Quick thinking as well as quick feet needed. Jake may be nearing the slower years but we've been so blessed with first the Stewarts and now the Trbojevics.
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I'd like to see Jake play less minutes, but he's starting every day for me. He's his own harshest critic and I have no doubt he will bounce back from some particularly unusually poor performances from him. While he has been in an overall decline, he was still the Blues captain last year. He's been playing poorly even by his recent standards. He's had a month off effectively to get fitter.

I think Tevaga will be on the bench, but playing long minutes. Think 20 minutes at hooker, 30 minutes at lock, or something like that. Means you only have to play Simpkin and Jake for 50-60 minutes each.

Aloiai will come in, if fit, probably starting. Brown and Bullemor for remaining bench spots, with Talau vs GCKT for the last one. There's still some doubt surrounding Saab, let's see if he's named or not. If he isn't, I'd expect GCKT.
 
The team should be unchanged from the win over the Panthers. If Jake strolls back in, Jazz goes back to 9, etc - it will be immensely disappointing.
 
Good point, SeaEagleRock 8. For me one thing I'd expect from lock is to be a ball player, basically another 5/8. Glen Stewart* comes to mind as a great example. Now my memory isn't what it used to be (but hey, it's been fun losing a few brain cells!) but I recall JakeT being much in that mould early in his career. He still does a few run and passes but they seem so telegraphed and obvious; easy pickings for the defence. Is this just father time or also in part the coach's call on how he plays? Either way, we need better ball skills from whoever plays lock with more variation in plays.

I agree re Simpkin starting at 9 and Tevaga at least on bench.

* - such a classic, that kick through in his own half from Glen during the 2011 grandfinal. Quick thinking as well as quick feet needed. Jake may be nearing the slower years but we've been so blessed with first the Stewarts and now the Trbojevics.
Gifty was not a lock. He was our right edge backrower.
 
Why do I get this feeling that with Croker still out and Jake Trbojevic back this week ... Jake'll be the lock, Jazz will start at 9 and Simpkin will be back on the bench.....

I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt that I am.
Yes, and this is why he is considered to be a rubbish coach.
 
Well picked stoodamire! I guess that does raise a question: who's our ball-playing forward either lock or second rower? Ollie can get an off load away, but who else? I'd think Tevaga should be if he's picked there, but mainly he seems to be doing edge running.
 

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